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Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
Yeah no.
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Attachment 352461Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
Yeah no.
^^^ yeah, I have no intention of that insanity. Pedaling a bike with my skis in the spring to go ski corn......that sounds like the potential for some Type 2 suffer/fun.
I am in the market for a gravel-type bike right now. I currently only have a mountain bike so this will be for everything else, including commuting, taking the dog for neighborhood spins, mellow singletrack with the kids, etc.
I was going to wait until spring but it seems like a questionable idea, with supply issues and all. I am 5'9" with a short-ass inseam, like 29". Any suggestions on what bikes I should be looking in the sub $2k range that are actually available right now?
Jamal, you have anything that fits this criteria at your shop (I don't even know which one it is...)?
I'm all for buying from a local shop, but for $2k it's tough to beat this: https://www.canyon.com/en-us/gravel-...nfarbe=GN%2FBK
Not sure what size you'd want, but M's are available in March. If you go for it you'd have to move quick when they become available - these things seem to sell out really fast.
^That is a really good deal. The new GRX stuff is very, very good across all levels, solid AL frame, good tires.
I'm at missoula bicycle works, although not right now during the winter so I haven't looked at what's on the floor very closely in awhile. But we do a pretty good job of keeping Kona roves in stock. This one is pretty solid
https://www.konaworld.com/rove_dl.cfm
About the only downside is that it has mechanical brakes, but to get hydro you have to spend quite a bit more for the ltd. There might be a couple of aluminum Libres there, possibly an Orbea Terra that might fit you with 1x GRX, aluminum, msrp of 2k, but I think on sale right now. Cannondale's topstone is pretty good too and the aluminum grx model is like 1750. Other stuff we carry but don't usually keep around are bianchi, all city, surly, oh, and evil.
I'm looking for a new cx bike this year and am leaning toward another orbea. They call it a "all-road/gravel" but it still has racey geo and better spec than the similarly priced super x.
https://www.orbea.com/us-en/bicycles...t/terra-m20-1x
Thanks!
It's cold out there, but the pavement is dry and clear and somehow I managed to go on 5 real rides this week (plus a little zwift). I should probably consider going skiing one of these days.
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The insulated winter shoes have been pretty great but I think I need some bar mitts or heated gloves or something. It hasn't been too bad but the hands are definitely borderline where everything else is pretty good.
This vid is pretty interesting, although a little heavy on the talking and not much riding.
https://youtu.be/wgIufJOnnEc
Way to get after it Jamal.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamal
nice workQuote:
Originally Posted by jamal
get bar mitts
Nice work Jamal. I have almost broken out the gravel rig a couple times in the last month, but even on "warm" days in the upper 30s with sunshine the pavement still holds many of those weird re-frozen ice berm things, etc. If I could just jump straight on gravel I would be all good. I have nice cold weather clothing too.
Mostly I just need to sack up though. Zwifting is too easy now when it's so cold outside.
Encouraging for sure. The gravel bike is on my truck for a lunch ride. Outdoor riding > Indoor riding (for me) every time.
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Follow up, went and had a beer at the shop tonightQuote:
Originally Posted by RootSkier
They have:
2021 Kona Libre AL, 50cm, 1899
2021 Kona Rove DL, 52cm, 1699
2021 Orbea Terra H30 1x, med, 2099 The dark green color
They also have a 2020 terra, size XS though, This color. msrp 1999 but I think on sale
A few decent trail bikes too.
Have a pair of WTB Ventures in a 700 x 40. After looking at them, I think a pair of Byways or Trigger Pros might be a better match for my needs. Anybody have a pair in excellent condition they would be interested in trading?
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Relatively straight forward gravel routes near Denver? I assume east or in the foothills somewhere. Need to head down that way for work this week and also just starting a program with a coach using Training Peaks. Really don't want to miss a ride on my first week. Need somewhere to ride on Wednesday night to do some intervals. Friday as well. Probably gonna have to be after dark with lights in the cold. Thanks.
There could be a million better options since I haven't lived there in years, but if it's just a workout and time is tight - could you do repeats on the gravel road that climbs the west side of Green Mountain in Lakewood? You park at the Rooney Road TH, cross 470 on the bridge and then it goes up to the top of Green Mountain from there.
Ok thanks. That may be a good option.Quote:
Originally Posted by kathleenturneroverdrive
Winter bikepacking is interesting. I guess we'll keep doing this until it snows.Attachment 358437Attachment 358438Attachment 358439Attachment 358440Attachment 358441Attachment 358442
May be too far, but the area between Boulder Reservoir, Lyons and Longmont has alot gravel. Its mostly hard packed dirt with some loose gravel on top. Flat and rolling terrain.Quote:
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Anyone have experience with the C19? I like my B17 well enough but a saddle that can handle wet weather, stream crossings, mud, and cold better would be great. I like how wide the B17 is, which is why I’m considering the C19 over the C17.Quote:
Originally Posted by Groomer Gambler
Thanks. I don't know where I am staying yet tomorrow. 10 hour drive. I have a 50 minute workout to do tomorrow. I might stop half way somewhere in WY and ride while it's daylight then finish the drive and get to D town later. Might make sense to avoid some of the Front Range evening traffic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skistack
Not gravel, but if you ever need a quick stop to stretch your legs and ride the Casper, WY Platte River Trail works in a pinch.
https://www.poseidonbike.com/collect...35715148546199
I’m thinking of joining the club. Longtime mountain biker with a mid travel 29er, but no gravel knowledge. I have an old road bike, but I hate getting buzzed by cars.
Curious what the collective thinks about this or other suggestions. Seems like a bargain?
I HATE the square taper BB, but hopefully with a little diligence it will last a season, and I would consider the crankset a consumable item.
I just got a Jamis Renegade for 1600. Steel frame, carbon fork, GRX components, 2x10 gearing, thru axels, braze ons everywhere. Looked at others but none had the same value imo. Going tomorrow to try and get the same bike for my wife before stock is all gone for the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by kathleenturneroverdrive
https://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/renegades3.html
^^ I was hoping to get one of those Canyons but they kept pushing back the expected delivery dates, so I ended up getting a Specialized Diverge Comp that was miraculously sitting on the shop floor in Helena in my size.
I haven't had a non-mountain bike in over 20 years, it sure is fun to be able to go fast for a long time with seemingly no effort. Now I just gotta figure out why the left brake has a piece of loose plastic rattling around inside it.
When you figure this out let me know. My ultegra hydro mechanical has this dull dinging noise from the bars that I can't for the life of me get rid of.Quote:
Originally Posted by RootSkier
I personally would hate to be pushing 2.35 tires on my gravel rides, which are more in the dirt road/rough pavement class, but if your definition of gravel is more Jeep trail/light single track oriented, it would work. Lots of options around in the low $1000 range from most major brands if you don't mind Sora or Claris drive train.Quote:
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Thanks for the feedback. I wonder if the Poseidon will seem more like a crappy mountain bike with different bars. In stock form, it wouldn’t even be that much lighter than my mountain bike.Quote:
Originally Posted by geomorph
^^^ agree on the above if you are riding gravel - but for bikepacking, I like the extra cushion of a 29x2.3 for long days of riding (mountain west). When I lived in the midwest, I'd do 1.9 or 2.0 for gravel riding on my MTB
I realize it's almost spring now, I should have posted these in here earlier.... anyone in need of some new drop bar Bar Mitts?
G-swap post
Wow. I might actually bikepack this year!
Couple buddies and I are thinking of riding the bikes with skis from Bozeman to Beartooth Pass (memorial day weekend?) and back.
Better option than using Gravelmaps.com for routefinding? Trail creek > frontage roads > Gardiner > through the park on main park roads?
Would be one night bivy in the park on the way there and back. Camp at the bottom of the switchies at the pass once we get there.
Tips for route, etc great appreciated.
That sounds very long with ski stuff. My only tip is to use google maps. find a level to zoom into that allows gravel to populate (as compared to paved near you). Or, look for routes via Strava?
Watch for the next TR from Shillingsworth - it should be an epic recount of his AZ300(400?) ride this past weekend
I have a buddy who uses gaia gps app and likes it. I haven't tried it yet.
Definitely not an expert and would love to hear other mags' thoughts, but Gaia GPS + Google Maps (offline) would seem a like a good combo during the ride. Ahead of the ride I'd also check the Strava route finder as griz mentioned.
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Google is useful but misses a lot. Gravelmap is very promising but super limited right now (I'm adding stuff regularly, and hope it takes off). Strava route creation is also promising but a near total failure at the moment (it doesn't know about road surface type and won't route through visible intersections half of the time).
Caltopo and Locus are the pro tools right now (AFAIK).
Check out multiple map overlays to find different roads. Verify with satellite view. Double verify with Earth so you can check angles.
I created this route on Locus from my RV and rode it yesterday. It was awesome.
https://strava.app.link/zXMaxJiyIeb
That looks awesome. I'll be in St. George in a few weeks and may consider trying to pull this off (or parts as the family will be with me). Talk to me a little bit about your tire choice and how they handled the terrain - especially the sand. if you had to do an out and back, which side would you start on?
Thanks for the info.
Seth
Sometimes there are gravel routes in trailforks but it's pretty limited. I've put a good amount of stuff in there around here though.
When I'm trying to figure something out at home I use caltopo. It's nice to be able to overlay a topo map and imagery and use a slider to hide or show one of them. It's track making works pretty well too and will follow forest service roads on it's own for you.
When I want to look at maps on my phone while I'm out there I have backcountry navigator. As long as I remembered to save where I'm going ahead of time.
A better garmin that has maps would be kind of nice. Following a line on a blank screen when you're not exactly sure where you're going isn't that fun
https://i.imgur.com/rCynPo3l.jpg
I would strongly recommend doing the loop part from Mesquite, but not the power line section (though it was interesting in a suffery kind of way). My GF was working all day but could pick me up, so that's why I started where I did. The loop would be under 60mi. There is no water anywhere out there, FYI.Quote:
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You could also skip the first big climb by using Gold Butte road to get to Whitney Pocket. It's nicely paved for some of the distance, but broken and shitty where I intersected it. If you can do the route I did, though, go for it. That first climb goes through a really cool canyon.
I used 40mm Nanos, which were fine. You'd be ok with a lower tread too, but I wouldn't go skinny. There is no sand on the loop part. It's mostly a hardish surface--no sinking in but enough to make it feel slow. There is some mega washboard on the downhills, but it's the kind you can skim at 25+mph if you can hold on. I had a 30/34 and would have liked lower gearing on Lime Kiln pass, but I like to really spin.
Check your state DOT for maps, including designated bike routes and potentially surface type. Here in NH we have an online map with bike routes and a Google Earth layer with dirt roads:Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
https://www.nh.gov/dot/programs/bikeped/maps/index.htm
Similarly, check Forest Service/BLM etc maps along the route.