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The 96 is definitely more biased to the park side of the spectrum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
Volkl is weird because the Revolt family has pretty different characteristics across the width offering versus what you'd typically expect from a family of skis. I'd say you didn't fuck up as much as Volkl's grouping these very different skis all under the Revolt name is actually what is fucked.
My experience with my M102 as well…incredible ski until my shop guy gave them a grind without me asking. Never been the same. Just picked up a pair of Revolt 114, Hand of God…put a true bar on them, and sure enough, both skis are edge high in the middle, about 10” from tops and tails. Imma leave em alone and let em rip.
Arguably it is just the 114 that is out of place. The rest are symmetrical-ish freestyle skis that mount really far forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by googledidoo
I do hate when companies just run wild with a line up name because it was successful.
Black ops, errr sender, errr Mtn
Mantra V-Werks. Never seen them mentioned much around here?
How are they compared to BMT 94s and 109s? Similar or a fair bit more ski? How does that tail act in denser/funkier snow?
Arguably it is just the 114 that is out of place. The rest are symmetrical-ish freestyle skis that mount really far forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by googledidoo
I do hate when companies just run wild with a line up name because it was successful.
Black ops, errr sender, errr Mtn
I'm still inclined to call it a fuck up. Obviously should have measured the factory line before mounting, and should have done some more homework on this ski instead of just relying on Evo's info. He sure loves that hornet graphic, though, so will probably just remount and hope for the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by googledidoo
Mount yer own skis, jong :fm:
I remember reading something about how the R&D crew for the 114 designed it to be more chargy and directional. Everything else in the revolt line remains more playful, iirc.
Been enjoying my R114. 3 days on them at Wolf Creek.
Initial thoughts are 191 is plenty manageable for me at 5’10” & 140lbs. I felt in between sizes, but considered my intentions for the skis and went 191 specifically for skiing alpine terrain (of which WC has about 10 turns worth) & maching through pow. Finding they are responsive & fun elsewhere on the mtn too in the days after the storm.
Found I need to ski them w/ a neutral stance to rally through tight spots as opposed to trying to get in the front and drive them like a more traditional directional ski. Weight feels dialed to me. The tail is there if you need it, but I haven’t found it to be punishing at all as I thought I’d read somewhere. Still low tide so I haven’t fully opened them up in the alpine. But so far they feel stable when running out of bowls at some speed. Still feel like a Volkl on groomers.
Liking these more than I thought I might.
Mine are ever so slightly edge high.
I'm disappointed it took this many posts to get called out :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Norseman
Will probably do the remount myself. Had other priorities last weekend and have a great little shop near the house that I like to support.
CF - any noticeable tip dive?
I'm a front seat skier and always mount on the line. I have a sneaking suspicion these may be bottom feeders if I'm driving tips. Thots?
Also, I have about 60#'s on yas.
I saw you post that earlier and I’m curious about that too still.
The storm I skied was dense, warm maritime type snow, followed by warm temps. I didn’t really get a sense of how they float yet.
Mounted on the line. Boots are Solly S-pro Alpha’s. I like to ski from the front too. Once I backed off a little they became way more lively.
Maybe get some demo clamps for the kid’s revolts (especially if you’re going to remount anyway)? We have some revolt eighty-six’s with demo bindings. That version showed the two boot center lines. My kid enjoyed moving around the boot center around with the demo clamps.
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Funnily enough I just picked up a pair of lightly used Squads with SPX 12 demos so this thought crossed my mind. He's pretty stoked on the Forza SPXs I got for these skis, though. Do the demo and non-demo SPX have the same hole pattern?Quote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
I don't think so, no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
The only demo binder I know of that has the same pattern as the non-demo is the griffon, and it's only the same pattern at 315mm bsl.
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That's what I figured.
Solved the problem by trading them in at a local shop that sells used gear for a pair of Sender 104 Ti with NX12 demos.
Skimmed through half this thread and there’s very little info on the blaze one fourteen. I like flatish skis with long mellow rocker. But the mount point seems crazy far back, and I’m confused as to where it actually is. Some say minus ten and another said minus ten is actually plus two of recommended. If minus ten is recommended I could see going plus two to end up at minus eight. Anyone have much time on them? Lack of info and current pricing tells me they haven’t sold many of these.
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^ No time on 'em yet but can confirm the rec mount is -12. I mounted +1.5 of rec (-10.5) for mostly soft snow touring after reading the blaze thread. They have very little tail taper so I didn't want to go too far forward, but agreed -12 seemed too far back. We’ll see...
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Blazes ski really well where they are recommended.
Posted some Katana 108 and Kendo 88 in GS if anyone is interested.
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Finally got my new 184cm K108s out in the conditions (day after soft chop and wind buff ) I bought (actually I just couldn’t resist the deal) them for. Mounted on the line, and instantly comfortable. Didn’t disappoint, strong smooth and stable through variable, pivotable when required, and missiles on the groomers. Much closer to my M6s than my V-Werks Katanas. They’re at their best carving large arcs on a windbuffed open face, but are a handful (relative to my options) in anything tight and hoppity. For me, they’ll remain a quiver ski, but I can see them being pretty versatile for a strong skier in open terrain.
I have not been on the 114 but I own the 106 from a few years ago and put demo bindings on them and played with everything from +0.5 to +2 and I liked +2 the best and there's still a lot of tip out there and they float great for the width.
For reference, I tend to like all of the progressive mount skis at the back of the range but I like these forward.
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Thanks for the info. I was debating between the blaze and atomic backland. Backland has a mount point much more agreeable to my style.Quote:
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I’ve got some one eighty-two cm Backland one zero sevens for sale if you’re interested. Drilled for ATK raiders but never skiedQuote:
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Not interested in the one zero seven, skied the one zero nine and liked it.
Here's an early Xmas present for all the Volkl mags,
25/26 Mantra 88, formerly the Kendo, tip is getting wider and turn radius is going to be a shade shorter. I will have my hands on them Monday I think, and will ski them sometime during Xmas week.
25/26 Revolt 101..... skinnier version of the 114. All the details I have now, but should be on them next week as well.
Ohh, been on the 114’s most days this season as they are the loosest skis in my resort quiver…101 sounds good as it hasn’t snowed for weeks.
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The glue is still wet...mounted on the line.
Looking forward to sliding on these.
So with an abundance of pragmatism I decided to re-use the same holes on my 2014 Katana for newer gripwalk royals as they somehow managed to have the same BSL fit from the previous owner. Of course when I finally bother to give a check to the matter my lack of diligence is paid off by finding out those crazy bastards put that original mount at PLUS-THREE; not even marked. So that's why the tail felt unwieldy.
How boned am I and/or what experience does anyone have with those sticks at that mount?
Got a Mt Baker day on my 184 Revolt 121’s. Some good pow up top, and kinda sticky/icy/manky Baker snot at the bottom.
Dang these are good skis in tough snow that is not groomed.
Mine straight pull at 182 cm and I'm mounted 87.5 cm from the tail so -3.5 cm (I think rec is -2.8 cm) and they felt great there. No tip dive in pow but you gotta stay centered, and keep some pressure on the tails.
Really good addition to the quiver for when it’s deep and chunky and you want to mob through chunder. Picked these up for ~$260US delivered with tax on Black Friday! Glad I did.
KC
Skis from the future.
L- Revolt 101, 182cm
R- Mantra 88, 177cm. 134-88-114, R16https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...8edd017d5e.jpg
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KC - love this report! Thanks for sharing. Hoping to get mine out over the next week (assuming the forecast holds). Need that crust buried a bit more. Love the idea of a powder tool that deals with funky PNW snow well.Quote:
Originally Posted by kc_7777
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Hey bandit!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
This ski feels heavy but does turn not heavy if that makes sense? It's very easy to pivot and slarve cause of the super tapered tips and so much tip/tail splay. It feels pretty strong underfoot so you can go fast through conditions where it goes from chopped up pow to firm and then back to pow. I'm happy with the 184 length and the -3.5 cm mount...thought about going back a bit more but I want this ski to be very maneuverable and thought going back more would make it conflict with my HL R120 Swallowtail, which is -6.75 cm. The tails feel a bit long at -3.5 cm but once I got used it (1 run), you kind of just ride this ski on the balls of your feet. Super fun ski for variable 3D conditions....which I think all quivers need.
Ps you need to get up to Whistler...it's dumping this week and this ski will be a great inbounds pow ski for there when it gets chopped up quickly.
KC
Skied them right up to the beer boundary for a frosty IPA!
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Anyone know the factory edge angles for
BMT 94
BMT 109
Kanata v-werks?
Do shops just put a 2:1 on every ski by default?
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https://www.evo.com/guides/ski-edge-bevelQuote:
Originally Posted by Cocximus
Thanks.
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