Ukraine

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Originally Posted by liv2ski

AS in WWII it is time for the free economies of the World to step up and rapidly produce and deploy alternate sources of energy to oil. This needs to happen and Russia needs to be shutout of SWIFT today.

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The shift to electricity as the primary energy source and production of that electricity being more localized seems somewhat inevitable, even if the time frame for that shift is unclear.

I've been wondering how much that shake up will produce some heavy thrashing from the primary petroleum suppliers. If Europe successfully weans itself off Russian oil, I can't imagine that Russia is just going to fade into the background as their economy withers. But I can't picture how that realistically plays out.

Its pretty crazy that I can sit in my home in middle of nowhere USA, and watch Russian soldiers get smoked by Ukrainian citizens with AK47s in near real time on Twitter and Youtube. I literally just saw a video of 4 Russian soldiers in a supply truck get ambushed and killed, all recorded by someone with a cell phone from their apartment window.

We're headed somewhere dystopian with all of this.

Russian SA-9 crushing civilian car for funsies, then moves on.

https://twitter.com/Balshone/status/1497178406617759745

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Originally Posted by Summit

Russian SA-9 crushing civilian car for funsies, then moves on.

https://twitter.com/Balshone/status/1497178406617759745

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Has there ever been this level of availability for war footage? It's unreal. Especially considering it's in near real time.

Also, it is high time we revisit our trading relationships.

Stop buying shit from China. Stop buying Russian oil. Stop fueling and funding dictatorships and despots.

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Originally Posted by TAFKALVS

Has there ever been this level of availability for war footage? It's unreal. Especially considering it's in near real time.

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Military’s would have killed for this intelligence three decades ago

I mean you can get multiple angles of that sa-9 running over the civilian car
https://mobile.twitter.com/franakviacorka/status/1497134141627850789

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Originally Posted by JRainey

I'm also perplexed by the shift of the republican party towards defending any official russian stance, but I think ole' PuttPutt just fucking sold out all his "friends" on the dole.

I've always respected that he was a shrewd leader, but he really might have done himself in here. He must be feeling the age pressure. He could have played another 10 years of subversion and manipulation, but maybe thought he won't make it. Or maybe he just wanted his shot at the Big Show!

All the cards on the table and he prob has a losing hand.

"Yur fukin' out!"

The Ukrainians have shown they've got a lot of heart.

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The Republicans are becoming the party of the uneducated working class and middle class, who have supplied the bodies for these stupid wars, and even thank you for your service doesn't work hiding the stupidity and ineffectiveness of these "wars". A lot of boys came back from Afghanistan and Iraq, thinking at first they were going to fight terrorists, but found out otherwise, the hard way. Why do you think there are no Americans besides super special ops or American planes and missiles involved right now? Political suicide. And we have no credibility to inspire others to join us.

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Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

IMO it's 100% that Putin supported their guy.

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One would hope that this type of endorsement is seen and treated as toxic. Not the case for the last 7 years. This humanitarian crisis might finally right the scales.

We won't give pause until the blood is flowing
Neither the brave nor bold
The writers of stories sold
We won't give pause until the blood is flowing

I need to watch things die
From a good safe distance

Vicariously I, live while the whole world dies
You all feel the same so
Why can't we just admit it?

Live stream of Kyiv city center is down now. Not sure if power related or (night) time related.

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Originally Posted by TAFKALVS

Its pretty crazy that I can sit in my home in middle of nowhere USA, and watch Russian soldiers get smoked by Ukrainian citizens with AK47s in near real time on Twitter and Youtube. I literally just saw a video of 4 Russian soldiers in a supply truck get ambushed and killed, all recorded by someone with a cell phone from their apartment window.

We're headed somewhere dystopian with all of this.

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I was talking to a mag yesterday about how it's been crazy to watch effectively toy drones dropping homemade bombs on soldiers for the last several years in Ukraine and more recently Burma.

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Originally Posted by Summit

Russian SA-9 crushing civilian car for funsies, then moves on.

https://twitter.com/Balshone/status/1497178406617759745

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Driver was an older gentleman...there's a vid showing locals getting the older driver out of the car out after that.

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Originally Posted by Summit

Russian SA-9 crushing civilian car for funsies, then moves on.

https://twitter.com/Balshone/status/1497178406617759745

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If you do a search you will find it was reported as a Ukrainian 9K35 Strela-10 armored vehicle that is lost from his convoy and desperately searching neighborhoods to find his group. Other videos show another angle of the crash in which is came upon heavy fire from Russian troops ahead and drove out of control hitting the civilian vehicle. Driver of civilian car survived. There is also video of that if you search. Other videos exist that show same vehicle roaming neighborhoods in desperation.

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Originally Posted by Harry

Sobering to watch TV with my Mom today. She said today reminds her of her first week as a HS freshman, her history teacher came out from behind his desk, and spoke to the class directly about the events of the past week. He spoke about how the day before Germany had attacked Poland. He spoke about how these are just two countries far away from us, he feared that it would start a chain of events that would ensnare the young teenagers in this classroom. My mom was sitting in the front row, and she could see the teachers hand shaking. Also in the classroom that day was a skinny boy whose parents had just moved to town a few weeks earlier. That skinny kid would end up fighting in heavy combat against the Nazi’s, and then he became my father.

Mom was very emotional today. She says today feels just like that day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Poland

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This post seems to have gotten lost in the shuffle. As frightening as the current situation is for everyone how much more so for those who lived through the last World War to see history so perilously close to repeating itself.

Powerful account - thx for sharing.

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Originally Posted by TAFKALVS

Its pretty crazy that I can sit in my home in middle of nowhere USA, and watch Russian soldiers get smoked by Ukrainian citizens with AK47s in near real time on Twitter and Youtube. I literally just saw a video of 4 Russian soldiers in a supply truck get ambushed and killed, all recorded by someone with a cell phone from their apartment window.

We're headed somewhere dystopian with all of this.

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Did you see Joe Rogans post yesterday? He pretty much said that exact same thing.

No, I don't follow Rogan.

Rogan!! Now you've started it!

So is Rogan pro freedom on this or is he a Putin ball gargler who is "just asking questions"?

^^^ who? oh, the n-word covid isnt real guy? yeah, was looking forward to his wisdom on this matter.

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Originally Posted by Benny Profane

Rogan!! Now you've started it!

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Oh ffs........:D

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Originally Posted by Summit

So is Rogan pro freedom on this or is he a Putin ball gargler who is "just asking questions"?

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Before you discuss freedom shouldn't you figure out if the Ukrainians are anti-vax or not? Or at least which ones are?

Ask Neil.

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Originally Posted by raisingarizona13

Did you see Joe Rogans post yesterday? He pretty much said that exact same thing.

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Why would you care what that guy has to say about anything (let alone admit to caring about it)? JFC, did you see Joe Rogan's post...words I'm glad I've never heard anyone I know IRL utter.

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Originally Posted by Summit

So is Rogan pro freedom on this or is he a Putin ball gargler who is "just asking questions"?

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Russell Brand doing Putin's laundry today.... wouldn't be surprised to see Glenn, Rogan, and all of the rest of the alt-reicht joining in tomorrow. I mean, Tucker has had a head start for a week or so....

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Originally Posted by Mazderati

Live stream of Kyiv city center is down now. Not sure if power related or (night) time related.

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Reports claim Russia destroyed Kyiv's power station. Ukrainian journalists are now reporting from bunkers because Russia is bombing and rocketing the city. It's going to be a long night.

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Originally Posted by ex-powderbroker

Russell Brand doing Putin's laundry today.... wouldn't be surprised to see Glenn, Rogan, and all of the rest of the alt-reicht joining in tomorrow. I mean, Tucker has had a head start for a week or so....

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Right, why would anyone want to know what any of those shitheads think about this? How about ask Benny for his opinion on the Clintons? What is Trump saying about Ukraine? What fucking difference does it make?? I'm just amazed people actually pay attention to any of that. There are smart people out there who have spent years studying the region--find out what they think, maybe. Unreal.