Figure out where the pressure point is. Use your fingers and thumb to massage the cork away from that spot on the tongue. No need to heat, room temp is fine for moving cork around.
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I ran with Hotronic warmers for a season in my Freeride’s with the cable exiting from the reinforced tab on the heel. I covered the cable out of the heel with gaffe tape and then a strip of slippery PTFE tape.
I’m sure my stepping into the shell racer style stressed the cable a bit, I shredded multiple cables and battery mounts from crashes.
I gave up on the warmers and went to heated socks.
Corbetts started carrying zipfits. If you’re in the states you can score an amazing deal. I grabbed the workhorse for $430 usd.
I have GFT that I use in my inbounds and out of bounds atomic hawx ultra boots (narrow last) (I have two pairs of boots). I had to put about 6 tubes of cork in my GFT liners to get the right fit. A couple of questions:
1. Is it worth getting a second set of zipfits (Gara) to dedicate to my resort boot?
2. The quiz says I should get the Gara LV - however given that I had to put a bunch of cork into my GFT - does it make more sense to get the HV? (instead of spending $60 on additional cork). Is there any difference between gara HV and LV besides cork?
Theres no difference other than cork, around 20% more in the HV. It'd hard to recommend something with knowing very little but if you're skiing in a low volume boot the Gara LV would likely work. I think it's easier and more precise to add cork than to remove it but your mileage may vary. Where did you have to add the cork in the GFT?
Another thing to consider is that the Workhorse, although HV, is slightly less overall volume than the Gara HV because of the leather inside and out as opposed to the pleather or whatever material it is on the Gara's and Freeride. That would be a good option if you are concerned the Gara LV wouldn't enough volume.
Yeah, I've only fondled a GFT but they seem smaller all over compared to a Gara. In the GFT thread guys were adding multiple tubes if I recall correctly, so not uncommon.
What's the general consensus on the Corsa? I have a fairly low volume foot but have had occasional instep pressure issues with my garas in a lv mach 1. The Corsa and a doberman type boot has always intrigued me. Was there a recent update to the Corsa? Hard to tell, but some reviews alluded to changes.
Was messaging Jeff about the newest Corsa a while back, mostly minor updates including quick laces and velcro for spoiler. According to Zipfit, Corsa is a very nice liner but very thin through the heel, so you can get some heel-on-boot-plastic action during landings and compressions. Interestingly, he recommended GFT for my low volume feet in low volume beer-league boots, with the benefit that you can use them in your touring boots too. Haven't gotten the chance to try it out myself yet though. I have the Sidewinder liners in my tele boots and the leather interior is real real nice
The major update was when they changed from ‘Corsa’ to ‘Corsa 92’.
The Corsa 92 is supposedly much lower volume, has removable tongue.
The last of the Corsa 92 is also much narrower than all the other Zipfits.
I have what my bootfitter described as “a very narrow, very low volume foot, but not abnormally narrow or low volume” and going from a Lange RX130 LV to a Lange RS140 with Corsa 92 has been amazing. First boot where I’ve had to do work around the midfoot and in the ankles and heel pocket to make it work.
Have the new Corsa in some Head WCR140 which is a pretty good combo. I use a fixed cuff spoiler over the Velcro; less snag on WC entry. I had to add a ton of cork but got the fit dialed. Leather liner is awesome. I have a low volume foot and was on the fence between Gara LV and Corsa. Figured I’d need to remove cork from one or add cork to the other. Removing cork way more annoying but obviously cheaper. Narrower last seems to play well with those 95/96mm boots but I think I saw a rumor that ZipFit was coming out with a model slightly beefier than current Corsa but below Gara.
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Question for someone more enlightened than me: I’m having an issue with a new pair of Gara LVs in some Nordica Promachine 130 shells and wondering if anyone can help me out.
The fit of the shell and cork in the liner feels great with no hot spots or issues. However, when I’m skiing perpendicular to the fall line and flexing the boot (ex. traversing) it feels like the knee & ankle of my downhill ski are flexing downhill instead of towards my ski tips (aka. moving more parallel to the fall line than my ski tips).
When this happens, it puts uncomfortable pressure on the outside of my downhill foot from the midfoot to the 4th toe. It also forces my hips to twist downhill (tracking my knee and ankle) instead of letting my hips sit in line with my ski tips. These sensations exist when initiating and carving a turn as well but the traversing example above helps isolate the issue.
This issues is worse in steeper terrain and less pronounced in flat terrain. It’s moderately worse on my left leg (1/2 size smaller foot and non-dominant) than my right leg.
Notably, this does NOT occur with the stock liners in the boot. I have played with cuff alignment and that doesn’t really change the problem. In a pair of Lange RX 130 shells with less room in the ankle (especially the medial side) this problem gets worse.
Any suggestions or ideas about what’s going on here?
Sounds like you need more cork around your ankles to keep them from tilting in the boot.
would love to see those pics.
I got my insoles installed in my World Cup liners.... damn... after a couple days on them it's life changing to have warm toes. It feels like they fit and ski better now. I'm sold.
I ran the cable out a hole under my arch, then gaff taped it around below my ankle bone and wrapping up to the outside cuff where the battery mounts. seems like it'll hold for the world-cup-style entry, with maybe a retape or two though the season.
but yeah... definitely won't be swapping between liners. I ordered another set of the heat elements cheap for the GFT's. Anyone have any thoughts on how to best run the cable to avoid destroying it for walk-mode?
while I'm in this thread... any updates on the rumoured lighter foam+cork touring specific Zipfit?
https://youtu.be/fnC3So3W_GA?si=98ULmoJQ8TwByRZd&t=858
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Of you're talking about what i think you're talking about. Google start haus video for race fit hotronics.
I thought a few years ago someone made an intuition + zipfits hybrid. Does anyone remember the name?
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https://daleboot.com/de/products/zipfit-liner
what’s this?
FWIW, I have not added or removed any work from the liners out of the package. Have a 1 finger shell fit so it's pretty snug in there.
Could it be possible that there's too much cork on the medial side of the ankle and too little on the lateral side as some sort of defect?