Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

Man, just reminded how ski towns are filthy petri dishes of human disease in winter. Surprised we all haven't died. I expell a bucketful of mucus when conditions are good.

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Originally Posted by Danno

G, my view is that you are accepting them into your inner circle, the network of people with whom you are not social distancing, so a hug is ok and expected.

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Strange days indeed. Most peculiar.

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Originally Posted by rideit

He is currently doing a bunch of massage/flexion stuff. Very much personal contact.
I guess we could just focus on the weight/balance stuff, and I could wear gloves? I really don’t want to fall behind, I take PT extraordinarily seriously.

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How long can you hold your breath?

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Originally Posted by Benny Profane

Man, just reminded how ski towns are filthy petri dishes of human disease in winter. Surprised we all haven't died. I expell a bucketful of mucus when conditions are good.

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Yeah, because everywhere else in the country is just so sterile.

KQ keep the faith. Thread has brought out some surprising responses, but we are a community which can give a lot to each other

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Originally Posted by Danno

G, my view is that you are accepting them into your inner circle, the network of people with whom you are not social distancing, so a hug is ok and expected.

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Disagree on timing. Hug them after 14 day quarantine.

I cancelled. He really wants to do some massage work for the torn quad and hamstring issues, but I think it’s gonna have to wait. LOTS of online resources for ‘homework’, and I have my stationary trainer. I’ll be fine to take a break, methinks.

I think it's important to stay informed, but hours and hours online is doing nothing but adding to the fear for most people. Walk around outside by yourself, read a book....like the actual paper kind, do a puzzle and listen to music etc. I am actually really glad that I have been super busy 10-12 hours a day the last few days and not just on the computer. I'd be freaking too if I was online all day long.

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Originally Posted by cat in january

KQ keep the faith. Thread has brought out some surprising responses, but we are a community which can give a lot to each other

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this. and sometimes the snark has more sting than it should (it should have none).

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Originally Posted by KQ

Wow. Yanno I've tried to be positive. To support those on this board that are worried for themselves and loved ones . I'm worried too. I've had my panic moments, shed some tears, worried about how this will all play out and this is what I get.

Yes, I'm crying as I type this. Do you feel like a man? Forget "man" how about a human being?

I hope everyone survives this just fine and no one loses as loved one. Truly I do.

Godspeed to you all.

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You did right and showed responsability.
I'm confined in Paris (talk abour a petri dish...) as I type this. We fucked up the social distancing thing and now... let's say it sucks. It's been two days and it's going to be several weeks... And I'm healthy.
It went to "let's wash our hands, show some common sense and carry on with our lives" to the whole country in house arrest in a week. On march 11 our President was attending a theatre show and telling the country to be sensible but to keep enjoying restaurants, concerts and outdoors cafés. Now, our hospitals are already overcrowded in several parts of France.
Don't be like us. Do not congregate, really. Don't. The time is now.

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Originally Posted by MultiVerse

The virus is protected by a rubbery coating. If the coating dissolves outside a host the virus is destroyed, if the coating dissolves inside a host the virus can replicate. Absolute humidity is as big a factor as temperature so Seattle might be okay. Although the virus can still spread easily in conditioned environments.

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What is absolute humidity? Like absolute zero? Or is it water?

I'm sorry for the comment that made you cry KQ.

I'll stick to making snarky comments on Benny's and Buttah's posts from here on. And Danno's too. Now that Spook is no longer here, I need a new outlet.

Mood change

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100% of patients that received a combination of HCQ and Azithromycin tested negative and were virologically cured within 6 days of treatment

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Originally Posted by rideit

I cancelled. He really wants to do some massage work for the torn quad and hamstring issues, but I think it’s gonna have to wait. LOTS of online resources for ‘homework’, and I have my stationary trainer. I’ll be fine to take a break, methinks.

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Hydrate and stretch.

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Originally Posted by Benny Profane

Hydrate and stretch.

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Always.

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So after reading about the idea to bring in hospital ships to affected areas (increasing capacity of local medical systems), I've got to say it's not a bad idea. Yes it does involve the military, but it could make a real difference with the spread of COVID-19

This pandemic has clearly demonstrated the need for hospital capacities to be more flexible (in this case be able to expand rapidly), and it should hopefully be a wake up call for the 'industrialized' nations that need to prepare better. Its obvious at this point that most have failed. Building up that spare capacity and maintaining it is going be an expensive endeavor, and it's got to be somewhat insulated from politics. Trump is a great example of how easily we can throw away disease preparedness in search of cheapskate ways to cut the deficit (and look good to voters). His admin thought they could get away with that, but it's come back to bite them on the ass real badly.

But back to the hospital ship idea. The military should definitely build more hospital ships long-term and mothball them in a way that still allows quick reactivation and deployment. They already have an army of medical personnel spread across the globe and have the capital to move them around. Investing in a few more of those could really pay off long-term, since a huge chunk of the pop'n live on/near the coasts.

But what about rural areas? Doesn't help them there unfortunately, so how do you solve this problem with (the already compromised) rural health care system?

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Hospital trains.


Maybe high speed hospital trains

I realize that everybody gets sick, but I've talked to a bunch of people that were flu sick in February and early March, but tested negative for flu. I'm not saying it's a definite at all, but it's definitely possible.

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/19/81819...ts-on-covid-19

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The chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee warned a small group of well-connected constituents three weeks ago to prepare for dire economic and societal effects of the coronavirus, according to a secret recording obtained by NPR.

The remarks from U.S. Sen. Richard Burr were more stark than any he had delivered in more public forums.

On Feb. 27, when the United States had 15 confirmed cases of COVID-19, President Trump was tamping down fears and suggesting the virus could be seasonal.

"It's going to disappear. One day, It's like a miracle. It will disappear," the president said then, before adding, "it could get worse before it gets better. It could maybe go away. We'll see what happens."

On that same day, Burr attended a luncheon held at a social club called the Capitol Hill Club. And he delivered a much more alarming message.

"There's one thing that I can tell you about this: It is much more aggressive in its transmission than anything that we have seen in recent history," he said, according to a secret recording of the remarks obtained by NPR. "It is probably more akin to the 1918 pandemic."

The luncheon had been organized by the Tar Heel Circle, a nonpartisan group whose membership consists of businesses and organizations in North Carolina, the state Burr represents. Membership to join the Tar Heel Circle costs between $500 and $10,000, and promises that members "enjoy interaction with top leaders and staff from Congress, the administration, and the private sector," according to the group's website.

In attendance, according to a copy of the RSVP list obtained by NPR, were dozens of invited guests representing companies and organizations from North Carolina. And according to federal records, those companies or their political committees donated more than $100,000 to Burr's election campaign in 2015 and 2016. (Burr announced previously he was not planning to run for reelection in 2022).

The message Burr delivered to the group was dire.

Thirteen days before the State Department began to warn against travel to Europe, and fifteen days before the Trump administration banned European travelers, Burr warned those in the room to reconsider.

"Every company should be cognizant of the fact that you may have to alter your travel. You may have to look at your employees and judge whether the trip they're making to Europe is essential or whether it can be done on video conference. Why risk it?" Burr said.

Sixteen days before North Carolina closed its schools due to the threat of Coronavirus, Burr warned it could happen.

"There will be, I'm sure, times that communities, probably some in North Carolina, have a transmission rate where they say, let's close schools for two weeks, everybody stay home," he said.


Hospital clinicians work on testing patients for coronavirus at Newton-Wellesley Hospital in Newton, Mass., where the hospital has set up tents in a parking garage.
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And Burr invoked the possibility that the military may be mobilized to combat the Coronavirus. Only now, three weeks later, is the public learning of that prospect.

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how much more advance prep and stemming of spread could have been done if ramped up 3 weeks ago?

criminal

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I cancelled. He really wants to do some massage work for the torn quad and hamstring issues, but I think it’s gonna have to wait. LOTS of online resources for ‘homework’, and I have my stationary trainer. I’ll be fine to take a break, methinks.

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Without knowing your particulars, a PUREWAVE Cordless Massager was a game changer in rehabbing my torn quad at home. Eccentric leg strengthening and mixing uphill/downhill hiking in with cycling helped with overuse from too much MTB.

You guys make me laugh. Thanks

My daughter just texted me that she and my grandson are showing symptoms. She works at Post Office and said the PO has had absolutely nothing to say about anything.

Everyone deals with stress differently. Some of us crack jokes, some of cry. I don't think we should judge anyone either way.

The only judgement I have is related to people dumb enough to believe anything the CPC is saying and forgetting that Communist China is not our friend and that they do absolutely evil, terrible things to their people.

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Originally Posted by MultiVerse

Without knowing your particulars, a PUREWAVE Cordless Massager was a game changer in rehabbing my torn quad at home. Eccentric leg strengthening and mixing uphill/downhill hiking in with cycling helped with overuse from too much MTB.

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Agree, it works wonders
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