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Looks like the kid is okay. 3 weeks in bed then back to skiing. Maybe someone should name a spine out there for him.Quote:
Any info w/ the busted back?
Didn't catch his name though...
I did have a chance to see a million gapers standing above cliffs on the lift ride up.
Anyone know the name of the chute below the lift and just to skiers right?
You don't need a partner or a shovel to hike the ridge anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by single
The new rules don't say you can't ski with a partner. I think most people still will, but it gives everyone the opportunity to make decisions for themselves. Focusing too much on having proper avi gear is a little silly at the area where many people probably do not know how to use it. The patrol seems to be approaching the situation realistically and hopefully it will work out.
Patrol says body recovery.Quote:
Originally Posted by single
what about a big dry-erase whiteboard w/ "no traversing across slopes unnecessarily: ski from the ridgeline where possible please" and "be mindful of those below: don't send avalanches onto people's heads please" and "if you cause a huge fuckin scene and need an elaborate rescue, we'll provide it once but then you're back to alpine lift forever" etc. etc. etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by workinforturns
maybe on the same whiteboard there could be a space for parties to describe their OB locations for others to see, just so people kinda have an idea as to where others are skiing/skinning...just a thought.
eg., "bob and jon out to bostwick burn trees, exit 10:30am, plan return up w. ridge of saddle pk. at 2pm"
it would suck to be skinning back into the resort and have some dude centerpunch something onto your ass when you were trying to travel safely.
Whoah. I had no idea. That just seems strange.Quote:
Originally Posted by NWFlow
There was no way to enforce it.Quote:
Originally Posted by single
Going to be interesting to see how the new lift and regs sort out over the season. Lots of "learning" will happen from all involved. Sort of like how we'll all have some "learning" to do with the new economy. Learning aside, I suspect both will have a sorting effect on skiers; whether desirable or not, we'll just have to find out.
Bring it on.Quote:
what about a big dry-erase whiteboard w/ "no traversing across slopes unnecessarily: ski from the ridgeline where possible please" and "be mindful of those below: don't send avalanches onto people's heads please" and "if you cause a huge fuckin scene and need an elaborate rescue, we'll provide it once but then you're back to alpine lift forever" etc. etc. etc.
Beacons are required so good people don't have to waste their time and potential injury finding your frozen carcass. Carry a picture ID also so your girl friend doesn't have to identify your missing face in the morgue by the size of your genitalia.
How bout 'take chances, ski something above your ability and loose your pass'-not that you can enforce this.
I feel as though the mindset of Euro's and americans is vastly different. There is respect for the mountains by the people who ski them in europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by hick
In America, people see "avalanche beacon / you could die here / don't cross this line" as "FUCK YEAH DAWGS THIS IS THE EXTREME GNAR GNAR SHIT AND WE GOTTA POACH THAT YO." Hence the dumbasses where they don't belong.
Just remember that we are required to drive on the right side of the road, and have a license. Why don't we let everyone drive regardless of age or driver education... and let them go left side, right side, middle, shoulder...where ever they want. By following SOME rules, we're able to continue to do things we enjoy.
I don't want to see people getting hurt. I don't want to see ambulances. The people who got hurt probably fall into 1 of 2 catagories.
1. They were perfectly able to to ski the line, but something went wrong (ie snow snake, flat light etc etc)
2. They didn't have the skills to safely negotiate the line.
It would be interesting to get honest answers from those who were injured.
I see beacons but not avy gear or partners as being useful to:
1. Decrease the amt of people with access
2. Recover bodies.
Nothing more nothing less.
Your partner at bridger is just like your partner in the BC. You gotta choose the right ones. I know the people I skied with regularly (4 or so peeps) I'd definately hit the BC with. Well, maybe not Lobstahmeatwad, that guys kinda a loose cannon...
On a side note...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HELL YEAH!!!!Quote:
Sunday Late Afternoon: A 50 percent chance of snow. Cloudy and cold, with a steady temperature around 5. Wind chill values as low as -9. Southeast wind around 8 mph. Total daytime snow accumulation of less than one inch possible.
Tonight: Snow likely, mainly before 11pm. Cloudy, with a low around 3. Wind chill values as low as -11. South wind between 7 and 9 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches possible.
Monday: Snow. High near 12. Wind chill values as low as -14. South southeast wind between 5 and 8 mph becoming calm. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New snow accumulation of 9 to 13 inches possible.
Monday Night: Snow likely, mainly before 11pm. Mostly cloudy, with a low around -4. Wind chill values as low as -16. Northwest wind between 3 and 6 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%.
Already snowing up there. Plus, super double secret stealthy schlasman's opening this afternoon. Life is good at Bridger Bowl.Quote:
Originally Posted by single
Not to continue to stoke the partner/no partner debate, but I looked around a little more than I did on Friday. Holy fuck. Schlasman's ravine is completely insane. Lots of groups navigating very carefully. Some in pretty bad spots. Makes it easier to understand the the folks who think partners should be required.
I am stoked to go ski tomorrow! If anyone want to meet up, I will be in a bright orange jacket with tankers or JJ's.
It gets alot better with more snow. Hopefully people respect that while we have a good base, The steep tree spine gnar has a ways to go.Quote:
Holy fuck. Schlasman's ravine is completely insane.
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so, uhhh, i dont know if any one else has noticed but broncos is skiing really hot these days. delicious chalky snow that you can go really fast on. I may channell my inner slow dog noodle this winter and dedicate myself to buckin the bronc!1 wooo hooo!!111!
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Unfortunately that shit is gonna get shralped off everyday the bullwheel turns cause that shit is now officially inbounds. Oh well, I still love that lift. So nice to spin laps on quality terrain (with a hike so short it barely merrits mention). Fingers crossed for Monday storm, its good to be unemployed.Quote:
Originally Posted by tone capone
The main negative that i have found is that last year with out a chair I had taken more runs there than this with the lift. It will come around though, I think the coverage is still to thin to be doing to much out there.
Saturday was great there was nobody anywhere. The ridge was probably 10 degrees warmer.
Next time you see gapers on top of the cliffs, yell at them to stomp out a nice platform for the next time it snows. Thanks.
12/28/2003. hard to believe it's been five years.Quote:
Originally Posted by single
mike's death most likely would not have been prevented by a partner. however his body would have been recovered more quickly. his friends and family would have been spared the wondering 'what if', but unless there was someone standing at the bottome of kanzler's with a shovel in hand, there's nothing anyone could have done for him.
pic of the plaque below/on kanzlers cliff
/can't post it without blowin margins or just a thumbnail- dang laptop+my minimal skillz
miss ya mikey, lots of folks do...
Well, I'll be up tomorrow, but will be skiing mostly groomed and easier pow lines. I'm still not strong enough after breaking my legs to ski what I want to. Looking at Flippers on opening day I was literally salivating, but just couldn't physically do it. Hope you guys are getting while the getting's good. I'm just waiting for the first really good inbounds pow day so I can bust out my Praxis.
Me: Average height, slightly overweight guy on Public Enemies or pink Praxis. Red Arcteryx, brown pants, blue boots and gold helmet. Give a "change for a nickle" shout and I'll say howdy.
Base weldr, that plaque is beautiful and dignified. I didn't know Mike, but a fine man it seems he was. I think of his sacrifice often and am humbled by the life he lived. The words on that plaque should be taken to heart by all here.
#1- We can all hope for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by tone capone
#2- We'll see; we haven't had one yet.
As for less intense powder days, I wouldn't get your hopes up unless you're willing to readjust your expectations and possible strategies in terms of timing. The new lift isn't managed as a regular "inbounds" lift per se; it's "Ridge Terain", subject to more intensive avy control and the attendant timing, and given the unmarked status of the new lift terrain, visibility constraints. I'm guessing (key word as I don't have any "scoop") that some days it will open concurrently with the rest of the mountain and some days it will have to wait awhile...just like the Ridge. In any event, the mountain will get tracked up fast, so get out there early and shred it up lift served style and then take a walk somewhere once the 9:30-10:00 arrivals are making things a little too intense. It can be frustrating, but with Bozeman's growth at least we do have some more room to roam up here now.
Sounds good. I don't care if they open it at 12:00, 1:00 on those days, because even that would be sickQuote:
that some days it will open concurrently with the rest of the mountain and some days it will have to wait awhile.
What I'm looking forward to are the 5 or 6 inch days when everything is skiing sick but without the whole double digit cold smoke pow day circus. If they manage to open everything at some point during most of those days, I will be totally stoked.
It was really rocky up there today. Still dumping, but it looks like that whole place needs a lot more coverage. The new terrain is kind of menacing. I skied slushmans a decent amount in the past, and I felt completely unprepared to really push anything outside of the main face there, especially with minimal coverage.
There were lots of kids getting stuck on cliffs. I saw like 2 10 or 12 year olds following their dad over some GNARLY stuff. Some people have no business doing what they are doing right now, and I am surprised so few people are paying the price for it. Well, I am sure chalet and PHD are doing a lot of ptex work right now.
Overall, my feelings on the new terrain is that it has a lot of potential. It is massive. But unless people let it fill in and dont scrape everything to rock before the snow has a chance to stay, it will be hard to have a clean run anywhere on that hill.
Having had my first run on the Slushman's chair I gotta say it is AWESOME! So stoked to explore all that new terrain this year, very cool.
Let's all be careful skiin tha pooder tomorrow. http://www.mtavalanche.com/current/
In the past, when we've gotten to the top of a line and see that's it's too thin, we've sidestepped down the line which packs it down for the future. It's different than scraping down it which pushes too much snow downhill and off the line.
Otherwise, it'll snow two feet of light cold smoke, someone skis it, and it's back to rocks. I don't really expect anyone to do this over there, but it would be nice. I'd never do this for long lines but it works nice for the shorter ones.
Also, there IS NO CHANCE IN HELL anyone is going to let lines fill in before they are ready. I wish they would but only the real gnarly ones will be left alone. Especially when most people are not familiar when stuff is 'ready' in this new terrain.
Holy crap. This is an amazing thought process, but not a good one.Quote:
Originally Posted by lobstahmeatwad
That was my first lift-served over there, too. I definitely smacked a few rocks that I didn't expect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lexi-Bell
single, menacing is definitely right. Were you the dude rocking the EHPs up there?
Can someone post a long view of the lift and terrain it services? TIA.
The 5 to 6 inch days are the best. You can still find areas that blew in to 20, or haven't been touched in a few days. 6" can refresh alot of terrain and not many people are willing to cut classes or ditch work for "just" 5 or 6".Quote:
Originally Posted by tone capone
Anything double digits is a shit show.
Sir, I was on the JJ's in an orange jacket. Either throwing spread eagles or picking up my buddies ski gear after he wrecked.
I might be heading up to mount ellis this week. If there is double digits at bridger, ellis should probably have it too. PM me if you have any interest.
Xtra, 6 inches can hide a lot too.
base,Quote:
Originally Posted by baseWeldr
great pic. hope you don't mind, i borrowed it to create an invite to send out.
To anyone who knew Mike or just likes cheap beer and sees this: some of his old friends are going to meet up at the plaque on sunday 12/28 around 2 to have a few PBRs and remember Mikey.
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Snowing heavily in town right now. It looks like 5 or 6 inches from what I can see out my window. Drive safely tomorrow to the mountain, the roads are horrible right now.
Restrain=Respect.Quote:
But unless people let it fill in and dont scrape everything to rock before the snow has a chance to stay
I agree. sometimes you misjudge the snowcover, but you can still do your best as you pass. It's the steep rock tree spine gnar that is just unrealistic over there right now. I am going to post a picture of "medium snow" in the ravine so people can see what that shit looks like at 65" which is still sketch in my opinion for the ravine wall gnar. When I get around to it.Quote:
In the past, when we've gotten to the top of a line and see that's it's too thin, we've sidestepped down the line which packs it down for the future
I just want to see people having fun getting down safe. The time will come when its totally on and you can do stupid crazy shit up there.
Hhhmmm, I know a tool who was on EHPs up there yesterday, me. I did meet some nice rocks also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirshredalot
I went to Big Sky today.
Definetly rockier than Slushmans!
There really are some good ways down out there right now. Are you guys all trying to ski the gnar?
One thing that is hilarious is listening to people talk shit about "hiking for six turns at Bridger" While they are freezing their toes off waiting 45min for a zero viz tram run.
OK so who called Lexi 'Lame' top of slushmans at about noon yesterday?
'Loose cannon' what you talkin' bout willis?
I am extra cautious on half a binder.
I would only talk shit to someone going past the rib on the "No Game" traverse:)
We should all meet up at the New lift one day and ski some lines. You are all mystery men to me.
I know alot of you guys know each other, but I have no idea who most of you are.
Seconded. Would love to meet some of the mags.Quote:
Originally Posted by tone capone
Edit: I'm gone until Jan. 1.
I would be down to meet up. I am gone after january 5th though.