Well, this is the fairy tale thread where hospital groups only care about patients and nothing else
Well, this is the fairy tale thread where hospital groups only care about patients and nothing else
What??!?Quote:
Originally Posted by MultiVerse
My god you do love to just talk out your ass.
You'd have to be either willfully ignorant or clueless not to see it. Many concrete documented sources have been provided throughout this thread. Do you actually believe hospitals don't engage in wasteful ineffective spending? Seriously, that's not a hill you want to try and defend
I just went through it with my sibling. Insurance is king and ultimately makes the decisions.
My wife works for a hospital and has now for 18 years straight. But please, tell me more.
You don’t know everything there is to know.
Your employer must absolutely hate you with how much waking time you spend here arguing with everyone under the sun just so you can appear right and smart.
Who are you trying to impress? Because we aren’t it, it’s not that big of a deal.
Have some fucking humility. It’s ok to be wrong. That’s how we learn to better ourselves.
When is the last time you got out on skis or a snowboard?
The terms and benefits of insurance vary widely. You yourself said UHC would have covered the transplant but COBRA didn't. Some plans don't pay for transplants at all. So the question is, did the COBRA plan deny because they're king or did they deny because the procedure wasn't covered?
Regardless, you have my condolences. My wife sees transplant patients everyday. Each patient requires 4-5 hours of evaluation just to determine whether they're a candidate before insurance even gets involved. The entire process is excruciating for everyone
Your response shows you didn’t actually listen to what I wrote. I figured as much.
I responded to the part that had to do with this thread even though you're not entitled to anything at all. And certainly not anything more than that
My god you’re exhausting.Quote:
Originally Posted by MultiVerse
And say what you mean and hit enter. Your constant editing is also exhausting.
I'm sorry you're experiencing a mental health/midlife crisis. Dealing with your sister's crisis on top of everything else must be hard
Being a human must be hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by MultiVerse
You sure do like to bring this up a lot.
You seem incredibly insincere because you only do this when I’m arguing with you.
I don’t think multiverse is entirely wrong. Hospital corporations are not saints by any stretch. HCA is really good and chopping all ancillary services and staff to be “more efficient” and then giving the CEO a 20 million/yr raise the next year. I worked there then, and saw it. Criminal shit.
This is the only time I've ever mentioned it, ever. I've never posted in your thread, ever. And I disagree that you're arguing with me. You're trying to pick a fight, that's true. But you are not actually making or responding to any substantive argumentsQuote:
Originally Posted by Buzzworthy
For what it's worth, and there needs to be a better term, health care efficiency in economic terms is defined as better outcomes. So for example, even though cardiovascular care is expensive, in terms of positive benefits to people it's incredibly efficient because we've gotten so good at extending peoples lives. That's worth trillions of dollars to the American peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by Trackhead
Hospital megacorps are indeed devils, only being sainlty compared to UHC. The non-profit label of many is a joke.
A real problem is that the ACA spurred the growth of the hospital mega-corps.
It was specifically written that way.
The crafters believed that practicioners as contractors, single provider practices, small practices, standalone hospitals, and small systems were bad and a drag. They didn't even want physician owned hospitals and specificalyl banned it with some carvouts for existing ones.
They believed healthcare M&A and employment of practicioners would lead to economies of scale and agile systems. Because MBAs making 8 figures know best!
They were wrong.
And even wrote a mea culpa.
Bullshit dude. You have.Quote:
Originally Posted by MultiVerse
But it doesn’t matter because you’re just another internet warrior here. Not a fan. You just cunt the board up trying to constantly be right.
You are only here to argue so to that go right ahead. I’m not reading your fucking garbage any longer.
You’re that guy everyone in the company can’t stand because you always argue about everything.
That's a lieQuote:
Originally Posted by Buzzworthy
Not in my thread but somewhere else. I definitely remember you mentioning it and my reaction was to think even less of you for doing so.
You just continue being right and you’ll be just fine.
You are quite simply misremembering something that never happened. It does explain though why this is so personal for you, even though you're entirely without question 100% wrong
Lord knows MV has been a douchenozzle of the highest order lately, but I think he's correct on this point.
Lot's of that going around. To be fair, skiing conditions right now are how North Korea gets information from prisoners
And when did we decide that douchenozzles were a bad thing anyway? We should retire that term in favor of "enemanozzle" or "colostomy bag".Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
Douche implies a cleansing
Yeah these days it might seem misogynistic.
But honestly. Do modern women douche anymore?
It’s old school. I hope they aren’t offended.
If so. Maybe they are douching.
Less about misogyny and more aboutaren't douchenozzles pretty much living the dream?Quote:
Originally Posted by Core Shot
I'm not sure about that, think about the vaginas that actually need douchingQuote:
Originally Posted by dan_pdx
They need flagyl, or diflucan, but not a douche.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
So you're saying nobody needs a douche?Quote:
Originally Posted by Trackhead
I like the tone of this thread now, it’s like old school TGR when it used to be fun here.Quote:
Originally Posted by riser4
Yes, rhetorically, douches are highly effective and refreshing.
I like the tone of this thread now, it’s like old school TGR when it used to be fun here.Quote:
Originally Posted by riser4
Yes, rhetorically, douches are highly effective and refreshing.
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Nothing better than a Lysol clam shack
Why can’t there be more like this guy?
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Good on the surface… but the Suns have the 7th highest average ticket price in the NBA at $285. Shaving a few bucks off the cost of a hot dog isn’t making a game remotely affordable for a family.
Wow, $285 average? Does that factor in court side, suites, etc?
What’s a ticket go for in the nosebleeds?
So true. No sports ball is affordable.
But not gouging is a nice idea.
Same shit on ski hills.
My son and I ate a power bar and chugged free water rather than buy a $17 bratwurst.
We got better cheap food at a Mexican joint on the way home.
Not sure why this is in the healthcare thread
At least the ski hill told us how much we were getting ass raped. And we declined.
The only hill I feel like I get my moneys worth is the top of the bird.
Still expensive. But tasty.
So what? It's still good to have affordable options. A hot dog, chips, and a drink for $6 is great. There may be other separate reasons to criticize the guy but this isn't just "good on the surface", this move is simply "good".Quote:
Originally Posted by smmokan
you can get 2 tickets to todays Suns game for $19/ea + fees or NYE $24/ea + fees, on Stubhub right now. No idea if that’s typical or not, but that’s not a terribly expensive park outing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
Sure beats the way modern US healthcare works!Quote:
Originally Posted by Core Shot
Me: "Hey, how much for a standard XYZ assuming no complications?"
Hospital: "We can't tell you that. You'll find out when you get the bill."
THAT'S what ticks me off!
Vox did a great piece on hospital birth costs a while back that was really illuminating. I ended up attempting the exact same exercise and after receiving such lousy treatment all the way around (And F U Bozeman Health fka Bozeman Deaconess! Those a-holes are the freaking WORST!), so we ended up going with a midwife who was able to give us an all-inclusive price up front. No fuss, no muss. She was amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tct38KwROdw
Google: no suprises act
Just another example of something that happened during the present admin, no reason to know about it.
We're all going to benefit from the many things Joe & Nancy & others have done over the past 4 years. Unfortunately they were terrible at marketing the accomplishments so morons rejected them in favor of the orange hype machine. The leopards, at least, will enjoy the feeding frenzy that's coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by jono
Fact.
Yep, I know of no other industry that can say that. Yes, I'm a HCW, but the amount of unknowns in billing patients is astoundin. Trying to decipher billing codes and what exactly needs to be worded in a patients chart for "insurance" company doctors to approve or deny. Why does insurance need to dictate how much is paid for a procedure based on what kind of insurance they have and what kind of reimbursement they are going to get or not get. We always like working with "correctional institutions" because we always know they (taxpayers) will pay.Quote:
Originally Posted by MontuckyFried