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12-19-2022, 09:06 PM
sk8rat6587

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Originally Posted by Eluder

Pics from newschoolers. Its got a new design and name but still a 98mm last Cabrio boot.

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I've been Cabrio curious, how do the krypton's fit compared to Lange rx? Are these a redesign or a rebrand?

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12-20-2022, 01:46 AM
teosickrider

Quote:

Originally Posted by sk8rat6587

I've been Cabrio curious, how do the krypton's fit compared to Lange rx? Are these a redesign or a rebrand?

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They should be a redesign...new mold.
12-20-2022, 02:47 AM
skibrd

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Originally Posted by robnow

Supposedly new Rustlers out very soon, couple weeks. 10 coming in 192.

This peaks my interest IF they aren’t noodles like the current R10s…

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12-20-2022, 07:11 AM
gaijin

As someone who has also been Krypton/Cabrio curious for a few years, my interest is not fit. It’s performance.

What am I missing out on, being a Lange boy? What does your side of the fence look like? What’s your cult compared to mine?

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12-20-2022, 07:57 AM
teosickrider

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaijin

As someone who has also been Krypton/Cabrio curious for a few years, my interest is not fit. It’s performance.

What am I missing out on, being a Lange boy? What does your side of the fence look like? What’s your cult compared to mine?

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The shoe feedback is different. You should try them side by side: Classic design boots kick you back after they've been bent, with Cabrio Boots you, or I, don't have that feeling.
12-20-2022, 04:42 PM
skisurfmirth

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaijin

As someone who has also been Krypton/Cabrio curious for a few years, my interest is not fit. It’s performance.

What am I missing out on, being a Lange boy? What does your side of the fence look like? What’s your cult compared to mine?

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Also, laterally cabrio are very stiff as the lower clog extends much higher up the leg than overlap.

The updates on NS also sounds like the krypton is still around for at least one more year. Hopefully longer!
12-22-2022, 03:55 PM
robnow

22/23 gear rumors

Quote:

Originally Posted by skibrd

This peaks my interest IF they aren’t noodles like the current R10s…

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Should be beefier…hence my cryptic message earlier in regards to the supposed growing mass differential between current Hustle series and new coming Rustlers.
12-22-2022, 09:14 PM
dcpnz

Saw some pics on Instagram of new Atomic touring boots for next year. Believe it was an Ultra XTD with boa and a pretty interesting looking Backland XTD 120. Should have bookmarked it or something cos I can’t find it again now. Anyone else seen them and got links or intel?
12-23-2022, 11:45 AM
Lord Thomas

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcpnz

Saw some pics on Instagram of new Atomic touring boots for next year. Believe it was an Ultra XTD with boa and a pretty interesting looking Backland XTD 120. Should have bookmarked it or something cos I can’t find it again now. Anyone else seen them and got links or intel?

Find this please.
12-23-2022, 02:06 PM
BlueBison

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaijin

As someone who has also been Krypton/Cabrio curious for a few years, my interest is not fit. It’s performance.

What am I missing out on, being a Lange boy? What does your side of the fence look like? What’s your cult compared to mine?

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I’ve been in cabrios for a while now (krypton’s and some of the nordicas when they were around). I feel a cabrio has a very progressive flex and is extremely smooth when you push into it. Two piece boots feel very linear to me, the stiffness you get off the top end of the boot when it flexes is the same as the full travel of the boot. Also, three piece boots are so much easier to get on and off. Yes, that sounds lame, but I enjoy watching my ski buddies struggle to get their boots off at the end of a day.
12-23-2022, 03:47 PM
dcpnz

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcpnz

Saw some pics on Instagram of new Atomic touring boots for next year. Believe it was an Ultra XTD with boa and a pretty interesting looking Backland XTD 120. Should have bookmarked it or something cos I can’t find it again now. Anyone else seen them and got links or intel?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Thomas

Find this please.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CmcAGQDL...d=MDJmNzVkMjY=
12-23-2022, 04:44 PM
jacob_dbu

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Originally Posted by dcpnz

https://www.instagram.com/p/CmcAGQDL...d=MDJmNzVkMjY=

New MTN binding too?
12-23-2022, 05:37 PM
Westcoaster

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Originally Posted by thejongiest

New MTN binding too?

What exactly is the point of a heavy u spring binding?
12-23-2022, 05:48 PM
alpinevibes

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcpnz

https://www.instagram.com/p/CmcAGQDL...d=MDJmNzVkMjY=

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12-23-2022, 05:57 PM
gaijin

Quote:

Originally Posted by teosickrider

The shoe feedback is different. You should try them side by side: Classic design boots kick you back after they've been bent, with Cabrio Boots you, or I, don't have that feeling.

Quote:

Originally Posted by skisurfmirth

Also, laterally cabrio are very stiff as the lower clog extends much higher up the leg than overlap.

The updates on NS also sounds like the krypton is still around for at least one more year. Hopefully longer!

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueBison

I’ve been in cabrios for a while now (krypton’s and some of the nordicas when they were around). I feel a cabrio has a very progressive flex and is extremely smooth when you push into it. Two piece boots feel very linear to me, the stiffness you get off the top end of the boot when it flexes is the same as the full travel of the boot. Also, three piece boots are so much easier to get on and off. Yes, that sounds lame, but I enjoy watching my ski buddies struggle to get their boots off at the end of a day.

Thanks, guys. I think I'll just go all in and buy something that fits. I've been curious for a while and I'll take your word for it.
12-23-2022, 06:13 PM
abcdethan

The Backland carbon 120 XTD looks to fill in their light touring quiver slot to compete with the F1. I wonder how much it weighs. Since Atomic fits my feet well, I’m very interested in it

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12-23-2022, 06:54 PM
Westcoaster

Quote:

Originally Posted by abcdethan

The Backland carbon 120 XTD looks to fill in their light touring quiver slot to compete with the F1. I wonder how much it weighs. Since Atomic fits my feet well, I’m very interested in it

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The bigger dial to generate more torque kind of makes sense. A nice big target for a rock when booting though.
12-23-2022, 09:01 PM
CaliBrit

Quote:

Originally Posted by abcdethan

The Backland carbon 120 XTD looks to fill in their light touring quiver slot to compete with the F1. I wonder how much it weighs. Since Atomic fits my feet well, I’m very interested in it

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Yeah this boot looks reaaaaal interesting.
12-23-2022, 09:36 PM
Lord Thomas

Looks like there might be another tour clamp from Amer in there as well. Looked bigger that the MTN
12-23-2022, 09:37 PM
Benneke10

Looks like it has some kind of release adjustability, maybe even gapless too
12-23-2022, 09:44 PM
CaliBrit

450g over under?
12-23-2022, 09:46 PM
Benneke10

I'd be pretty surprised if it was over 450g even with the brake. Every other company manages to make a full featured tech binding under 450g...
12-23-2022, 09:48 PM
skisurfmirth

I’m guessing with the Uspring still there, it only has lateral adjustments and a fixed vertical. From the photo it’s unclear if there is a flat mode or only pin height and high. Interesting for sure. I like my MTNs but have been ATK curious as of late.

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12-23-2022, 10:22 PM
CaliBrit

22/23 gear rumors

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benneke10

I'd be pretty surprised if it was over 450g even with the brake. Every other company manages to make a full featured tech binding under 450g...

A lot going on in that heel…

I agree it would be a big miss if it was over.
12-23-2022, 11:24 PM
jacob_dbu

It looks beefy for a u-spring…

I have to say the MTN is a good binding, but it does wear over time. TBD on if my ATKs wear too…

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12-24-2022, 08:28 AM
turnfarmer

There’s a new Volkl in that Newschoolers thread that looks almost like a Praxis Protest.
From Kyle Peterson IG.
12-24-2022, 12:54 PM
NorCalNomad

Quote:

Originally Posted by thejongiest

It looks beefy for a u-spring…

I have to say the MTN is a good binding, but it does wear over time. TBD on if my ATKs wear too…

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All u-springs do wear. Been using my Trofeo's for a few seasons and they show wear but not enough to change release characteristics yet.
12-24-2022, 02:03 PM
tharmor

Quote:

Originally Posted by turnfarmer

There’s a new Volkl in that Newschoolers thread that looks almost like a Praxis Protest.
From Kyle Peterson IG.

That is this year’s Revolt 121

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12-24-2022, 02:34 PM
turnfarmer

Nevermind
01-06-2023, 09:06 AM
adrenalated

Any news on if the last changes at all on the new XTD boots?

For my feet at least, it's the only boot in the class that's low volume enough to fit my feet somewhat correctly, but I could really use another 5mm in length.... (which would make them similar in length to most other boots in the same size)
01-06-2023, 09:31 AM
Eluder

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01-08-2023, 08:18 AM
MD12

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_pretzel

Quote from Luke on NS:
Correct; naming products for multiple languages is tricky. Them opting to put the 110 in the 'Sender' series seems odd to me, since I am almost 100% certain that's the 'Blackops 108' everyone's been waiting for (skinnier 118), which makes more sense as a Blackops ski than a Sender ski since it's twinned and pretty center mounted, but I imagine it has something to do with the fact that it'll be marketed more as a 'freeride' ski than a 'freestyle' ski. The protos were very forward mounted and reminiscent of the 118; way more tail rockered and symmetrical than the Sender Ti or Sender Squad. Only bummer (selfishly) is the lengths — I believe they're similar to the big-gap options of the Blackops 98. Though the 190+ model should be on your radar for sure. I think the announcement will come in late January or February.

Any updates to the regular enforcers? Wouldn’t mind a 94 186 but the tail doesn’t work for me - it will buck you a little too hard compared to the rest of the ski.
01-08-2023, 08:04 PM
XavierD

Quote:

Originally Posted by MD12

Any updates to the regular enforcers? Wouldn’t mind a 94 186 but the tail doesn’t work for me - it will buck you a little too hard compared to the rest of the ski.

Full enforcer rework is 2 years out IIRC. 24/25 or whatever it is.

Jan/Feb ‘25 release wouldn’t surprise me
01-15-2023, 12:20 AM
GoldenBC

Quote:

Originally Posted by adrenalated

Any news on if the last changes at all on the new XTD boots?

For my feet at least, it's the only boot in the class that's low volume enough to fit my feet somewhat correctly, but I could really use another 5mm in length.... (which would make them similar in length to most other boots in the same size)

New ultra definitely feels longer in the toe and wider. I could tolerate not punching but I still would a bit for touring. The old ones I pushed the shell out as far as the toe lug. It also feels higher and wider, as if they reduced the angle/chamfer the old last had.

It feels wider to me too but my foot is squishy and it takes a while for it to hurt and I only had these on for 10 min.
01-03-2024, 10:42 AM
HandsomeDan

Quote:

Originally Posted by tompietrowski

Yeah totally. For those who don't know me I was a boot fitter for 16 years before starting in this position so a key aspect for me is making sure the fit and usability in fitting is key in all models we make.

Is this actually happening?? Would love, love, love to see the original 99 mm last and cuff height in a touring boot!
01-03-2024, 11:14 AM
noslow

New Enforcer 99 replacing the 100 and 89 replacing the 88. Lots of black Proto versions of these being shown online.
Noticed the 104 Enforcer had a hair longer radius in the 186cm so don’t know if it’s been tweaked a bit.
03-06-2024, 12:49 PM
HandsomeDan

Disappointment again - not happening... :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandsomeDan

Is this actually happening?? Would love, love, love to see the original 99 mm last and cuff height in a touring boot!
03-06-2024, 01:01 PM
tompietrowski

Yeah unfortunately not yet. Boa put rather a spanner in those plans. I’m still figuring out how we can best execute a new 3 piece boot though.
03-06-2024, 04:16 PM
bearcub69

Quote:

Originally Posted by tompietrowski

Yeah unfortunately not yet. Boa put rather a spanner in those plans. I’m still figuring out how we can best execute a new 3 piece boot though.

such a shame, thought these would be out by now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandsomeDan

Is this actually happening?? Would love, love, love to see the original 99 mm last and cuff height in a touring boot!

agreed. the og 99mm shell fits me well and skis well for me too. i like roxa r3 for touring, but just doesnt offer the same suspension on the way down..

i hear k2 might get rid of revolve/flex eventually
03-06-2024, 06:25 PM
Crystal Skier

22/23 gear rumors

Nocta’ for 2025 I heard today will be ltd edition models with small batches made.
edit…oopsie wrong thread (22/23)

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