New Season, New Tires, New Thread

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Originally Posted by scrublover

The DHR2 is a much, much better tire than those.

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Well, they came stock. The dual compound on the OEM HR-2 is apparently known for its suckitude in the traction department.

Once I wear these out, Ima go back to the good ole Michy Wild Rock'R2 Adv Reinforced, despite their retarded name. They have been my favorite tire since I put them on my old Reign back in the spring of 2016. I did get a flat *once* when I didn't check/top-up the rear tire and pinched it...

Before those, I *did* have an EXO DHR-2 on the rear. I pinched it BADLY the 1st time I had it out. I promptly moved it to my kid's bike. :D

For a trail bike, I'll take a HR2 over a DHR2. HR2 rolls faster and corners harder. DHR2 brakes better and wears a bit better. HR2 in the rear also doesn't pair as well with a DHF in the front, so I usually go for HR2's front and rear.

That's comparing each tire in a 3C / maxxterra compound though. Don't think I've run them in the dual compound.

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Originally Posted by toast2266

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That's comparing each tire in a 3C / maxxterra compound though. Don't think I've run them in the dual compound.

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Yeah. Don't do that.

I suppose that it works fine in some regional conditions? Loose over hard, though? Yeah... not so great.

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Originally Posted by toast2266

For a trail bike, I'll take a HR2 over a DHR2. HR2 rolls faster and corners harder. DHR2 brakes better and wears a bit better. HR2 in the rear also doesn't pair as well with a DHF in the front, so I usually go for HR2's front and rear.

That's comparing each tire in a 3C / maxxterra compound though. Don't think I've run them in the dual compound.

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Whatever works!

For me, I liked the HR2 initially, then tried some DH2 in similar size and whatnot, on the same trails, and very much prefer the DHR2

Ya'll deal with loose kitty litter type surfaces way more than I do out east, I suspect that makes a big difference.

Yeah, the dirt probably matters quite a bit. I find the HR2's need to be leaned a little further in corners, but lock in harder once you get there. That works great in softer, loamier conditions that we have around here. But yeah, I'm sure there are plenty of dirt types where that's not ideal.

And just so we're on the same page, while the HR2 is maybe my favorite tire ever, the DHR2 is probably still in my top 5.

I didn't think the SS Exo seemed flimsy. Sealed up with a floor pump (DHF too) and is a bit stiffer than Specialized control, but also narrower (maybe more in casing than in tread), but that makes it more squared off on narrow rims. I can actually go slightly lower in pressure.

What's with all the tubless insert shit? Is it really so necessary to run 30mm internal rims and 22psi?

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Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn

I didn't think the SS Exo seemed flimsy.

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Was it the DD version?

If not... 750g? That's flimsy shit right there.

Perhaps your flimsy-standards are low? :D

I'm sure I'll be back on a DHRII in the butt soon. I just don't xc enough or care enough about how fast thebike goes uphill or on flat stuff. Rather have traction and durability on the way down when I'm maximizing fun than be fast and efficient on the stuff I don't enjoy.

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Originally Posted by jm2e

I'm sure I'll be back on a DHRII soon. I just don't xc enough or care enough about how fast thebike goes uphill or on flat stuff. Rather have traction and durability on the way down when I'm maximizing fun than be fast and efficient on the stuff I don't enjoy.

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Aren't you in Ft Fun?

If so... maybe try a Wild Rock'R2?

Traction: check
Durability: check (get the Gum-X for rear tire)
Don't give a fuck about rolling resistance: check

I've heard that it gums up in muddy conditions, but if you're on the FR... you know - who the fuck ever sees mud? :D

This deserves to be x-posted from another forum. It's fucking GOLD. :D

"It's a Shwalbe, just cut off all the knobs, poke 9 holes in it and throw it away, it's the inevitable result of the first 2-3 rides on it anyhow."

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Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn

What's with all the tubless insert shit? Is it really so necessary to run 30mm internal rims and 22psi?

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There's a lot to like in concept, e.g. rim protection, some run-flat capability, a more progressive "air spring" in the tire. But the prices are seriously whack. I can't see any reason these should cost more than $10-15 tops.

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Originally Posted by skaredshtles

Was it the DD version?

If not... 750g? That's flimsy shit right there.

Perhaps your flimsy-standards are low? :D

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750g for a (narrow) 2.3" tire that has half the knobs of a normal tire isn't that light.

But yeah, any semi slick isn't gonna fare as well against slices and punctures, purely by virtue of not having big lugs down the middle of the tire.

After reading further, it really seems like the cheapest, easiest insert is $2 foam pipe insulation from home depot.

Seems like an odd DIY choice compared to backer rod.

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Originally Posted by skaredshtles

Was it the DD version?

If not... 750g? That's flimsy shit right there.

Perhaps your flimsy-standards are low? :D

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Exo regular. Perhaps, but:

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Originally Posted by toast2266

750g for a (narrow) 2.3" tire that has half the knobs of a normal tire isn't that light.

But yeah, any semi slick isn't gonna fare as well against slices and punctures, purely by virtue of not having big lugs down the middle of the tire.

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I don't get tread slices in Missoula. Unsealing sidewall punctures in the Slaughter, somehow.

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Originally Posted by Dantheman

Seems like an odd DIY choice compared to backer rod.

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Oh yeah, the backer rod is definitely better (similar foam and stiffness, more volume), but you can't walk into home depot and buy it for $2 in the right size.

Maybe not at Home Depot, but online it's $2/ea: http://www.bestmaterials.com/detail....iABEgJ1DvD_BwE

Or you can buy a lifetime supply for $70: http://www.trusupply.com/Backer-Rod1...CABEgKm_vD_BwE

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Originally Posted by Dantheman

Maybe not at Home Depot, but online it's $2/ea: http://www.bestmaterials.com/detail....iABEgJ1DvD_BwE

Or you can buy a lifetime supply for $70: http://www.trusupply.com/Backer-Rod1...CABEgKm_vD_BwE

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It's over $20 after shipping and handling for 2 of the 6' x 1.5" backer rods........

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Originally Posted by toast2266

For a trail bike, I'll take a HR2 over a DHR2. .

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You cray cray


hey SS: just keep both of those "dual" things for rear tires and buy a good sticky front something.

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Originally Posted by kidwoo

You cray cray


hey SS: just keep both of those "dual" things for rear tires and buy a good sticky front something.

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You know - that's pretty good idea. Although the rear has already tried to injure me once... so I'm kind of pissed at it.

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Originally Posted by skaredshtles

You know - that's pretty good idea. Although the rear has already tried to injure me once... so I'm kind of pissed at it.

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Learn how to ride better?


:D


I run those harder ones in the back too FWIW. I can't stand sticky rubber for a rear tire on anything I pedal for hours.

I do use the 2.4s though.

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Originally Posted by kidwoo

Learn how to ride better?


:D

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You're not the 1st one to insinuate that I suck. And, to be fair to you and the others, I do. :D

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I run those harder ones in the back too FWIW. I can't stand sticky rubber for a rear tire on anything I pedal for hours.

I do use the 2.4s though.

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I don't pedal for hours any more. Very often. And yeah, 2.4s.

You wanna pay me lots for them? They're barely worn. :fm:

It’s about time axiom or brand x or any of these knock off companies start putting out gold tire liners for 20 bucks or special ed and bontrager

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Originally Posted by Jonny Snow

It's over $20 after shipping and handling for 2 of the 6' x 1.5" backer rods........

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They do kill you on shipping for small quantities, but S&H increases minimally as order size goes up. At least to my zip, YMMV. Buying 20 gets them down to $3/ea including shipping. They're disposable so might as well stock up.

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Originally Posted by grinch

It’s about time axiom or brand x or any of these knock off companies start putting out gold tire liners for 20 bucks or special ed and bontrager

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Seriously. I've tried to find justification for the cost but have failed so far. I cannot wrap my brain around how these cost as much as a 3C DHF, especially when they're more or less a disposable wear item. 10x the cost of a pool noodle seems like a reasonable upper limit.

You guys talking DH or trail? IMO, Cush Core and the like are overkill for trail riding. I bought a pair of Huck Norris inserts for arond $55. $25+ a wheel seems pretty cheap if it's going to prevent pinch flats and potentially save me the cost of replacing tires and rims. Also, the included fender came in really handy last Fall.