some damn good IPA's out there

noted. thank you :)

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Originally Posted by subtle plague

So i found out that I am boring and like IPAs and especially NEIPAs best. which of those breweries on this list from the US should I try?:
https://www.craftbeer-shop.com/Brauereien/USA

iT's my easiest way to get stuff here in "Helles"-land SW Germany and i usually just randomlyx click on NEIPAs or IPAs i havent tried. I had a firestone brain melt which I really enjoyed


https://www.craftbeer-shop.com/fires...3wybrSh2piFgCl

, but they are not on the list so i guess there are more breweries hidden in the shop?

well anyway.... Anything that stands out on the list that i have to try? (I don't want you to browse the NEIPA list so i Thought the one page breweries list is not too much effoert ;) )

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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but any one of those beers from the US are totally fucked by the time they get to you… They literally taste nothing like what they would if they were fresh or even purchased 60 days after canning if stored cold. Hoppy beer starts to go downhill after 4 days at room temp, even if your packaging capabilities are insane. By the time they cross the pond they’re literally toast. Spend your money on beer brewed closer to home and ideally go to the brewery to buy it if you can.

Not sure where you are in Helles land but Fraugruber or Bierol maybe? In my experience craft hoppy beer is treated like mass produced lager beer in most of Europe which means it’s treated like shit. Macro lager can handle the warm storage but modern hop forward beer really needs to be stored cold and drank fresh.

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Originally Posted by wasatchback

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but any one of those beers from the US are totally fucked by the time they get to you… They literally taste nothing like what they would if they were fresh or even purchased 60 days after canning if stored cold. Hoppy beer starts to go downhill after 4 days at room temp, even if your packaging capabilities are insane. By the time they cross the pond they’re literally toast. Spend your money on beer brewed closer to home and ideally go to the brewery to buy it if you can.

Not sure where you are in Helles land but Fraugruber or Bierol maybe? In my experience craft hoppy beer is treated like mass produced lager beer in most of Europe which means it’s treated like shit. Macro lager can handle the warm storage but modern hop forward beer really needs to be stored cold and drank fresh.

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Outer Range has a location in France now. One of the better NEIPA breweries round these parts. Says on their site that they ship fresh beer around Europe. Could be an option: https://outerrangealps.com

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Originally Posted by wasatchback

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but any one of those beers from the US are totally fucked by the time they get to you… They literally taste nothing like what they would if they were fresh or even purchased 60 days after canning if stored cold. Hoppy beer starts to go downhill after 4 days at room temp, even if your packaging capabilities are insane. By the time they cross the pond they’re literally toast. Spend your money on beer brewed closer to home and ideally go to the brewery to buy it if you can.

Not sure where you are in Helles land but Fraugruber or Bierol maybe? In my experience craft hoppy beer is treated like mass produced lager beer in most of Europe which means it’s treated like shit. Macro lager can handle the warm storage but modern hop forward beer really needs to be stored cold and drank fresh.

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Oh.... OK. This reveals me as the beer amateur I am. But I do think they get it over the pond half quickly? .

I just thought I'd ask for some advice on the breweries because I've also tried the home made ipa /neipas from around Europe and found some to be rather meh. And me being no expert means they're probably rather bad :)

If I ordered directly from breweries, I'd stick to my favorite Irish surfer lads from Lough gill....where I get some stuff every summer trip.
loughgillbrewery.com/

I just thought I could discover some stuff conveniently.

From what they had in stock, given the limitations of transit, I do not think you would discover anything at 5€ a can or 60€ a 12-pack. Just like bitd the US “beers of the world” joints left you with the impression every beer was expensive and skunky.

It's funny that we couldn't get this next door in NH, but I can ride my eeb down the street and pick up 4 pack of VT luv 3k away https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...5593dd1d7a.jpg

On the weekend my local Craft brew took a bunch beers to the contest in Vangroovy and won best brewery in Canada eh
only 4 short blocks away in the beermuda triangle

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