His NIL deal will pay him more than a QB drafted outside the top 10 (or even 1st round). I’m not sure props are in order for 6th year transfer other than for making a smart financial decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by SumJongGuy
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His NIL deal will pay him more than a QB drafted outside the top 10 (or even 1st round). I’m not sure props are in order for 6th year transfer other than for making a smart financial decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by SumJongGuy
If NIL pays them more to play in a meaningless bowl than sitting out (ala Williams) that's a good thing IMHO..Quote:
Originally Posted by BmillsSkier
If NIL pays them more to play in a meaningless bowl than sitting out (ala Williams) that's a good thing IMHO.. Those bowl game tickets are expensive. I get that players don't want to risk injury for nothing but fans paying big money for tickets should get to see the players they paid to see. Good solution.Quote:
Originally Posted by BmillsSkier
I'm all for seeing the top players play in bowl games, and the collectives paying NIL money (and more importantly, their businesses behind them) want "their" guy out there earning his $ (exposure), and notwithstanding the threat of injury it's just that much more tape a guy on the fringe of the first round can put in the can as well. So yeah I think its a win for fans, boosters and players.Quote:
Originally Posted by SumJongGuy
Williams is a lock for top 5 in the draft where Bo Nix is pretty hard to predict, anywhere from 15 to the third round so anything to help his exposure at this point AND a fat check with a solid insurance policy against injury makes this game worth it for him. Keep in mind the Ducks need all the help they can get for fans to attend the bowl game. Talk about getting fucked, playing MF'in Liberty at 10 AM on new years day ? What fucking brilliant brain surgeon thinks this shit up ???!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SumJongGuy
Better than midnight east coast time. One of the reasons PAC football sucks. East Coast FTW LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by fatnslow
This is fucking hilarious!
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...Fg&oe=65740859
DeSantis is requesting $1M in the 2024 Florida budget so that FSU can sue the CFP committee.
As someone living out west, I love the late night games and hate day games. Day games are a waste of my time where as night games I can be productive and have fun under the sun then chill at night watching football. The late games suck to attend in places like Eugene, Corvallis and Pullman, because the fan bases generally live on other areas and those towns don’t have enough hotel beds to accommodate all the fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by SumJongGuy
All fans bitch about early games.. Mostly because it kills the tailgating and pre game drinking vibe. And that's 11am for Central time zone to be noon East Coast when they all start hahaha.. A noon east coast time kickoff for you is especially brutal. I can usually have all my weekend errands run and be sitting with wings and pizza by noon east coast time..Quote:
Originally Posted by altacoup
When the kids were involved in stuff I missed a lot of games. The always had a scout hiking and camping trip OU/Texas Saturday... :mad:
His largest NIL deal has no provision for bowl games. This appears to be pure enjoyment on his part.Quote:
Originally Posted by BmillsSkier
It is against the rules to tie NIL money to play time in any way, shape or form. Once they sign those deals, they can pretty much do anything they want.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater
Good info on the NIL deals not being tied to playing time or bowls.
Back on the crime of the century.. I actually wonder why The Committee didn't finish the screw job by putting FSU in the bowl against Liberty instead of Oregon.. If you're going to fuck someone over why go half way?
Because if they get boat raced by Georgia, the committee can throw their hands up and say, “See, they couldn’t even hang with the SEC runner up. We got it right.”Quote:
Originally Posted by SumJongGuy
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Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater
Good to know, props to him for playing for the fun of it/his teammates.Quote:
Originally Posted by alias_rice
Bowl tie-ins set the UGA - FSU match up. But also because if FSU goes 14-0 they can, and should, claim a national title and the committee is even further exposed. It’s much less likely they beat UGA than Libertybiberty. FSU does have the defense to beat UGA though.Quote:
Originally Posted by SumJongGuy
What if Libertybibberty beats OR way worse than WA did.. and WA wins the playoff? They've got the same chances Alabama has of beating the Carolina Panthers amirite?Quote:
Originally Posted by XavierD
That would just be funny
Hang the banner Liberty
There's actually more than a decent chance Oregon loses. Kids DO NOT want to play some shit opponent and can check out mentally starting as soon as that game was announced. Happens every year at bowls.
OTOH, no self respecting NFL scrub would ever lose to a college team. Keep in mind if you take the very best 4 year cycle at Alabama they might have 20-25 NFL level talent playing a NFL 53 man roster of best of the best college players. Nobody can be that stupid.....
This transfer portal shit is pretty wild. Now thousands of players in the transfer portal.
This is really going to change schools and traditions forever. That was one of the best things about college football, the school traditions when it comes to the students, athletes and fans. Now, just seems like teams are shuffling half the roster out every year. Going to be hard to get many athlete alum who have been around a full 4-5 years that will continue school traditions.
Keep in mind only about 100 kids are moving up, most transfer because they aren't playing at their current schools. At least now players have some ability to control their path. Why is it OK for coaches to leave at will and expect the players to be stuck where they started ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hott Butt Mud
I have a feeling in the next few years after a bunch of kids that enter the portal end up in worse situations or actually end up NOWHERE this will slow down quite a bit.
Yep. If a coach leaves, there’s no reason players he recruited shouldn’t be able to bale too
If my kid gets offered a 4 year academic scholarship to Big State U and after a year or two they decide to go to Harvard or any other school they can. They're not slaves owned by the university because of being offered a scholarship to play football or do research or whatever. There are no non-compete clauses and it wouldn't pass legal muster if they tried to require one.
It's kind of like a bunch of mediocre college players beating the Soviet National Team in 1980 amirite? Most of those kids didn't even make it for more than a minute in the NHL.. and the NHL All Stars got totally owned by the Soviet National Team in exhibitions games.. Nobody could be that stupid amirite?Quote:
Originally Posted by fatnslow
Yeah, of course no one should not be able to switch schools. I'm pointing out, that the transfer portal is different. I'm not sure people understand the rules changed for NCAA, and there's no more giving up eligibility. That's systematically different when all aspects of football are considered. It's definitely new, and like the other poster before me said, the transfer portal trend could end pretty quickly based on the stats of how everyone ends up after the next few years.
EDIT: What we're seeing is (un-jokingly) the 'Prime Effect'. Deion essentially beta tested this with the new rules. He got a ton of praise and exposure for the football program he coaches. Now, we're seeing the reaction from players nationwide.
The transfer portal started in 2018. Before that, an athlete who wanted to transfer had to ask permission from his coach, or go through an appeals process if denied. But he still had to sit out a year if he transferred.
Immediate eligibility started in April 2021, so it’s been a couple years. Coach Prime wasn’t the first, but he certainly used it on a much larger scale. I’d argue that he wasn’t all that successful with the brutal approach he took. He’s already seen some key defections, and decommits from the 2024 high school recruiting class. He desperately needs high quality offensive linemen to protect his QB. It will be interesting to see if he gets them, given this years results.
Deion paled in comparison to other programs' success in the portal. He got a bunch of PR for firing half his team, but he didn't do so well replacing them, save a handful of standouts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hott Butt Mud
The dude is definitely punching above his weight--I'll give you that. But how long will the #coachprime hype train last without a successful season to show for it? These dudes want a spotlight and they want to win in that spotlight.
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Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by billyk
As an example, 40% of Oregons 23 roster came from the portal. That's pretty substantial.
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I should also add, now that I somewhat remember it, that prior to 2021, if you transferred as a graduate student you were also immediately eligible to play. Immediate eligibility for undergrads started in 2021.Quote:
Originally Posted by billyk
There are two different major dynamics happening in the transfer portal activity... The first is players being straight up told by the head coach during end of season interviews that they're not likely to get much playing time next season.. hint hint, check out your other options., that also includes players following their coaches who are also leaving/fired took another job elsewhere.
Then there are players who are lured away by better NIL deals or just think that they will be happier elsewhere but haven't been told by the coach they will be down the depth chart at all..
There’s also guys that shined at their previous school, but saw the opportunity to go play with a stronger program that had the chance for a National Championship, or at least a bigger spotlight, whether that involves NIL or not.
You know, it’s very possible, or at least slightly possible that FSU beats Georgia in the Orange Bowl. Recall the 2019 Sugar Bowl where #15 Texas beat #5 Georgia.
Georgia was favored by11 points, but lost. Coach Tom Herman prepared the longhorns that year like they were playing for the national championship, while the Georgia team largely didn’t give a crap and were there to party.
It could happen again. FSU is highly motivated, and I can’t see the Georgia players caring much at this point.
There is talk of FSU boycotting the bowl and suing over this..
CU just landed a 5* OT commitment. More to come I imagine. https://n.rivals.com/news/colorado-l...-jordan-seatonQuote:
Originally Posted by billyk
FINALLY, some recognition in the polls. :yourock:
Nice job pulling up number two, Pokes! And yes, that is Liberty at #5- look out, Ducks!
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Do they have a list for the nearest strip club from stadium ?Quote:
Originally Posted by MarsB
Do they have Trumps old legal team on this ? You gonna sue for subjectivity ? Obviously they got F'ed but............................Quote:
Originally Posted by SumJongGuy
Why are you bringing hay into this?Quote:
Originally Posted by mcski
wAffle House or GTFO!Quote:
Originally Posted by MarsB
I guess we’ll have to see what happens. I wish them all the best, but it does take time to build a strong program.Quote:
Originally Posted by ColMan
And then after his QB son leaves after next year, does Dad stick around?
I think he needs 2-3 good years at Colorado before making his next move, which I assume is a NFL gig.Quote:
Originally Posted by billyk