Alec Baldwin WTF

So you agree it’s the armorer’s fault and not the bullet’s?


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Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn

So you agree it’s the armorer’s fault and not the bullet’s?


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Did the armor put real bullets in the gun? We still don't even know who actually did that do we? If real bullets were illegal and not readily available to the general public this doesn't happen

Bullets should be 100% illegal for all non leo citizens.. Make possession of bullets every bit as high of a crime as possession of Fentanyl. You don't need real lead bullets to defend yourself from bad actors. There are other projectile options' with lower odds of collateral damage yet effective for self defense at close range.

You don’t really understand an armorer’s job.


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Originally Posted by SumJongGuy

Did the armor put real bullets in the gun? We still don't even know who actually did that do we? If real bullets were illegal and not readily available to the general public this doesn't happen

Bullets should be 100% illegal for all non leo citizens.. Make possession of bullets every bit as high of a crime as possession of Fentanyl. You don't need real lead bullets to defend yourself from bad actors. There are other projectile options' with lower odds of collateral damage yet effective for self defense at close range.

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QFF

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You don’t really understand an armorer’s job.

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Add it to a very long list.

Please stop quoting SJG.

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Originally Posted by I Skied Bandini Mountain

Please stop quoting SJG.

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Why? Do you lack the ability to not read his posts or quotes of said posts? Is your scroll function disabled?


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SJG shoots blanks.

Not surprised.

PS. How’s that war against fentanyl working out for you?

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Originally Posted by AKPogue

A cartridge will definitely go off if it lands just right on something. I personally know of an instance where a guy loading 9mm into a magazine dropped a cartridge and it went off.

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It is possible sure. And how dangerous was that when it did happen?

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Originally Posted by SumJongGuy

A kid i our neighborhood taped a BB to the middle of a shot gun shell end and kept throwing it up in the air until it landed just right and exploded. I've heard other idiocy of drunk people putting rounds in a camp fire.. Redneck Roulette..

In this situation.. Whoever added real bullets to the box of dummy bullets set off this chain of events that resulted in death.. Whoever loaded the gun whatever EXPERTS declared it safe are also more responsible than the idiot who believed them.

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And the kid and neighborhood was fine right? Or else you'd be describing the awesome destructive power of that massive explosion and high velocity shrapnel from a shotgun shell with no bore.

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Originally Posted by SumJongGuy

Did the armor put real bullets in the gun? We still don't even know who actually did that do we? If real bullets were illegal and not readily available to the general public this doesn't happen

Bullets should be 100% illegal for all non leo citizens.. Make possession of bullets every bit as high of a crime as possession of Fentanyl. You don't need real lead bullets to defend yourself from bad actors. There are other projectile options' with lower odds of collateral damage yet effective for self defense at close range.

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This is divorced from reality.

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Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn

Why? Do you lack the ability to not read his posts or quotes of said posts? Is your scroll function disabled?

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I just wonder why you bother to respond. Unless you enjoy nonsensical, time-wasting foolishness? I think the history proves there’s little constructive value in it.

I’m wasting time at work waiting for surgery to start, so yeah


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Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn

I’m wasting time at work waiting for surgery to start, so yeah

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Maybe troll someone that’s not a waste of time?

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Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper

I just wonder why you bother to respond. Unless you enjoy nonsensical, time-wasting foolishness? I think the history proves there’s little constructive value in it.

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How else am I going to make myself feel smart if not hitting the slow pitches? ;)

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Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper

Maybe troll someone that’s not a waste of time?

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My apologies. I’m fascinated by people like him, clueless but confident


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...so, people.

Yeah


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Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper

I just wonder why you bother to respond. Unless you enjoy nonsensical, time-wasting foolishness? I think the history proves there’s little constructive value in it.

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That would seem to describe the Padded Room in general.

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Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn

My apologies. I’m fascinated by people like him, clueless but confident

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My Dad used to say, Ignorance and Arrogance is the unbeatable combination.

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Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn

You don’t really understand an armorer’s job.


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It looks like they didn't either..

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Originally Posted by SumJongGuy

Nope, regardless of the gas, if the CAR hits someone the car is what kills them.. If someone waves a toy gun at police and the police shoot them it's the bullet that kills them.

This whole incident just supports the whole concept that it's bullets that should be more regulated. Keep your AK47.. but lead projectile bullets for it should be harder to get than Sudafed is..

In fact, perhaps blanks and wads should be all you can get. You can shoot targets with wads.. at least from 30 feet away or so..

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But a bullet is harmless with the gun powder to fire it right?

A car is harmless without the gas to propel it right?

Explain your answer in great detail to clarify


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Originally Posted by AK47bp

But a bullet is harmless with the gun powder to fire it right?

A car is harmless without the gas to propel it right?

Explain your answer in great detail to clarify


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Nobody is arguing that.. I'm arguing a gun is harmless without bullets.. So regulate bullets better.

FWIW Gun powder's pretty fucking dangerous in all sorts of applications.. Boston Marathon bombing for example..

Push a car that's out of gas down a hill towards people and houses.. God you're stupid..

No real bullets on that set and Halyna Anatoliivna Hutchins doesn't die. Make bullets a LOT harder to get in general and lots of people are saved from senseless deaths..

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Originally Posted by SumJongGuy

Nobody is arguing that.. I'm arguing a gun is harmless without bullets.. So regulate bullets better.

FWIW Gun powder's pretty fucking dangerous in all sorts of applications.. Boston Marathon bombing for example..

Push a car that's out of gas down a hill towards people and houses..

No real bullets on that set and Halyna Anatoliivna Hutchins doesn't die. Make bullets a LOT harder to get in general and lots of people are saved from senseless deaths..

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Immediately came to mind…

https://youtu.be/VZrFVtmRXrw

Chris Rock has a plan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZrFVtmRXrw

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Originally Posted by BlazersTimbers503

Immediately came to mind…

https://youtu.be/VZrFVtmRXrw

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He's such a moran stop quoting him... :the_finge

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Originally Posted by ötzi

Chris Rock has a plan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZrFVtmRXrw

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Lol great minds

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Originally Posted by SumJongGuy

He's such a moran stop quoting him... :the_finge

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^^^ Sig-worthy.

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Originally Posted by SumJongGuy

Nope, regardless of the gas, if the CAR hits someone the car is what kills them.. If someone waves a toy gun at police and the police shoot them it's the bullet that kills them.

This whole incident just supports the whole concept that it's bullets that should be more regulated. Keep your AK47.. but lead projectile bullets for it should be harder to get than Sudafed is..

In fact, perhaps blanks and wads should be all you can get. You can shoot targets with wads.. at least from 30 feet away or so..

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Reminds me of the scene in Crash where the shopkeeper tries to shoot the locksmith with blanks his daughter bought by mistake.

All this talk about bullets and cartridges and cars and gas is getting dangerously close to jets on treadmills.

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Originally Posted by old goat

All this talk about bullets and cartridges and cars and gas is getting dangerously close to jets on treadmills.

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It's true. This thread did take off pages ago.

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Originally Posted by old goat

Reminds me of the scene in Crash where the shopkeeper tries to shoot the locksmith with blanks his daughter bought by mistake.

All this talk about bullets and cartridges and cars and gas is getting dangerously close to jets on treadmills.

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She bought the blanks on purpose (the gun shop guy asked if she was sure about her choice of cartridges, and she insisted), because she didn't want her dad to kill someone.


So anyone mention here, that the scene they were shooting was not supposed to include the gun being fired at all?

It’s a conspiracy by the bullets to bring down Baldwin


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Originally Posted by old goat

Reminds me of the scene in Crash where the shopkeeper tries to shoot the locksmith with blanks his daughter bought by mistake.

All this talk about bullets and cartridges and cars and gas is getting dangerously close to jets on treadmills.

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( in borat voice) Isnt America wonderful !

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Originally Posted by Rasputin

She bought the blanks on purpose (the gun shop guy asked if she was sure about her choice of cartridges, and she insisted), because she didn't want her dad to kill someone.


So anyone mention here, that the scene they were shooting was not supposed to include the gun being fired at all?

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The question of whether or not she knew they were blanks is not agreed upon. To me her insistence was born more out of frustration.

But regardless we should give her credit for choosing the red ones.

Nespotism: not just for men any more.

Fucked up system that would have blanks and cartridges with bullets anywhere near each other.

I’m no where near an expert, but I did grow up with firearms, continue to own them and fire them regularly, and I simply can’t imagine how this happens. If you google “40 cal blanks” - which I chose simply because I fire a 40 more than anything else, the bullet is replaced with an orange plastic wad, or a flat red cap.

Perhaps that’s partly why charges are being filed? It’s too ridiculous of a mistake to be made unintentionally. The fact that it would happen at all is gross negligence although if they can establish motive…

Given it was a revolver being used in a movie I think they needed blanks that resembled bullets.

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Originally Posted by Rasputin

So anyone mention here, that the scene they were shooting was not supposed to include the gun being fired at all?

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I’ve been wondering about that.

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Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn

This is some wonderful circular logic. I’m all for more stringent gun controls but it’s people that are the problem not cars and projectiles. Do you mean cartridge when you say bullet or just the bullet?


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=VZrFVtmRXrw

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Originally Posted by m2711c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=VZrFVtmRXrw

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Yeah that’s been posted already, you’re very clever. I’m not a gun nut and don’t care if ammunition is more expensive. Yes access to firearms and ammunition is too easy but that doesn’t change the fact that people are the problem as with most things.


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Originally Posted by m2711c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=VZrFVtmRXrw

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This is such an incredibly stupid unrealistic naive mentally masturbating idea.


I thought that guns on movie sets were prop guns, and designed to only be able to fire blanks. That seems like a far more realistic change than magically disappearing all ammunition from the world with the power of your fart sniffing smug.