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Come ooooooon Hedwig!!
^ yeep, That’s the vid..
I think she brings up good points about creativity. Its like a totally new, ultra gnar venue with decent snow. Should be a great show. Im already worried for Aymar. He'll probably try and gap the whole face.
Yeah, I'm a little worried about some of the young freestylers too... a few of those crashes at Fieberbrunn could have been a lot worse (like Chabloz's first run).
The words 'shattered skull' are super uncomfortable and they keep playing in my thoughts. Poor kid, what her family must be going through. Hopefully a cautionary tale headed for riders on the Bec and beyond.Quote:
Originally Posted by TahoeJ
Interesting, I guess that part of the Bec is much more wind protected, as Besse says. Excited to see it!Quote:
Originally Posted by powdork
Shouldn’t happen with a decent helmet. Wonder what happened. Did she lost her helmet or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by Angle Parking
it happensQuote:
Originally Posted by roQer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emVUTRNyNNI&t=16809s
Cool to see hear XDR announcing his little brother. That was soulful.
Congrats to Sybille. Her emotions tell the whole story. And seriously, her first time on that face and she skied like that? Major props.
Jack Nichols throwing a back on his first run on the Bec? Nuts.
Tester--- My Lord!
I was worried about Maxime entering this comp. Oops... my bad.
How do you do that? How do you just show up and do that?
I'm now really curious as to what the veterans are going to throw down.
Shiiit, Aymar went down hard. Not a good sign seeing him sliding motionless down the face.
Hard smash into that wall, scary scary stuff. Agreed ^^^
Fuck. Is Navarra alright?
Contest on hold.no Audio. That's bad...
I was pissed off at Heitz during his 100mph tour. And Aymar is just recycling that.
Go home. This isn't what we're doing here. Your style doesn't work in the professional, competitive scene where we have to consider safety.
I hope I don't see Aymar ski again in a comp. Which is tragic. I said the same of Heitz. You guys are just going straight until you die. Go home.
He's alive.
Some really close calls befire. Tester nearly dropped on someone.
Slemmet barkered and turdell Fall making turns.
Simply no competion conditions.
I like navarro and Heitz, but only in good conditions where you don't die if you make a mistake.
That's it. Those guys who don't know how to tone it down when conditions aren't right have no place in this arena. So amateur. Stop making me watch people ski into walls.Quote:
Originally Posted by subtle plague
Super blown away at Maxime's season. Who is this guy? He just schooled the entire sport.
Bye-Bye Aymar and Heitz-like old-school theories that you might win if you just go straight and survive.
It's ironic, or weird, because both Heitz and Aymar were among my favorites until I discovered that they didn't know how to slow down.
So many world-class athletes fade away at their own abuse. It's sad.
Any update on his condition? Holy cow that was scary to watch.
He’d already confirmed a complete lack of judgement at Baqueira Beret, and should have been left to some obscure corner of the internet. He is what he is, and is almost certainly suffering from some variety of post concussion syndrome, but bringing him back as a wildcard on the Bec is irresponsible.Quote:
Originally Posted by gaijin
I also have an issue with the judging of control issues, IMO both Tester and Chabloz should have been docked, otherwise they’re rewarding the sort of dice rolling that leads to Navarro(Regner-Ericsson for the win). Chasing ratings through carnage is unethical, and not a sustainable business model for the FWT.
anyone have a link to a replay that does not get flagged by adblocker???
>can't watch the official replay at work anymore:(
/ one of the links earlier this year was viewable on the work computer; just not the official freeride homepage replay with the rider highlight icons.
EDiT*nevermind..the replay that pops on tgr header page is the one that works w adblocker;)
I thought Olivia McNeill was underscored - not enough points for her creative line choice. Still made the podium at least.
Tester went HUUUGE and Chabloz's run was sick hitting those two airs back to back at the bottom. Bummer Turdell couldn't hold it together because where he threw that three right into the chute was absolutely nasty.
Aymar... man... I hope he's okay but right when he went over into that zone I started holding my breath and wanted to cover my eyes. Not the conditions to try something like that. I respect the balls that it takes but I don't want to see it. If he had somehow pulled it off that probably would have been the first perfect 100 score in FWT history, but it's just not worth the risk.
Loved how Moga went for the front flip at the bottom - that's a more responsible way to do something cool / nutty. He already had such a nice run going before that.
He's lucky as hell...
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Wow. You guys know this is a big mountain comp with freestyle aspects, not a freestyle comp where folks get chastised for skiing big lines.
Big lines do not equal stupidity.
There was no Chance in hell of Holding that line together in those conditions.
He would have had a Chance at the mammoth venue, but not on the bec.
You’re daft. A ski helmet offers very little protection from significant hard impact. Get a DOT/Snell certified full face helmet if you want to avoid a skull fxQuote:
Originally Posted by roQer
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I think the point is most of us saw his line choice (in those conditions) as reckless. No way in hell was he going to shut that down after the third drop unless it was super soft.Quote:
Originally Posted by powdork
Look at this sequence and the snow for his landings... zero chance with the speed and steepness involved - you'd need a foot or more of powder to have any chance of checking speed after the second drop and same for the landing on the third. Still definitely one of the crazier skier line attempts I've ever seen. I mean, holy shit.
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The conditions don't really matter when you make a mistake. The rocks are exactly as hard in all conditions. As it is both Navarro and Heitz are doing well (I had to go check and make sure Heitz didn't die somehow they way you're all going on).Quote:
Originally Posted by subtle plague
Have you guys watched South Lines? Navarro is always on the knife's edge between life and death. For him, that's what works and it's what has powered his career.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_hrvsft_gY
He wasn't going to slow down he was taking it to the bottom just like the other events he did. Just like Gerritzen did after she missed her opportunity to shut it down.Quote:
Originally Posted by TahoeJ
Uhm it's a giant difference what you tomhawk down. Or how you Lose speed or not if you mess up a Landing? He had done about approximately 52 tomahawks before hitting that wall which would pronably have been a spine in better conditions.Quote:
Originally Posted by powdork
Navarro is a great skier who’s mostly terrible at big mtn comps. There’s just something off about his ability to read the terrain/conditions and/or his understanding the limits of his abilities. Or maybe he doesn’t fully get that being in control is a huge part of big mtn skiing? Who knows.
I’d say the same if he was out there throwing freestyle tricks he couldn’t stick and getting broken that way too.
He did zero tomahaks, but did do about 4 spins. It could have been a spine in different conditions. But if they just got 18" of snow the conditions would have been great and it would have still been a rock.Quote:
Originally Posted by subtle plague
He's not mostly terrible. He stood on the podium in Verbier last year and has made to to Verbier twice. You can't be terrible and succeed at the sport's highest echelon. He simply has a high risk/reward ratio. He's not always gonna make it down but when he does he is usually going to score well.Quote:
Originally Posted by kathleenturneroverdrive
Jess Hotter crashed badly three times this season and she's crowned the champion.
"Wow. You guys know this is a big mountain comp with freestyle aspects, not a freestyle comp where folks get chastised for skiing big lines."
Thank you, Powdork.
You’re confusing being a good skier with a good competitor.Quote:
Originally Posted by powdork
A good skier can always eke out a comp podium here and there by sticking a poorly chosen line that nearly breaks them.
A good competitor is rarely injured, has a decade+ long career, and might win the whole FWT a few times. Navarro seemed to have this side figured out in Andorra, but looks like that was maybe just a fluke.
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Originally Posted by ddraver
So close...
I do wonder if his inability to keep up with the freestyle aspect that the younger crowd on the tour incorporates so well now actually pushes him towards even more extreme and risky big mountain lines in order to try to still be able to stand out from the crowd and get wins. It's a risky strategy. On the other hand he has always just kind of skied with that shit or bust mentality.Quote:
Originally Posted by kathleenturneroverdrive
His two crashes this year are sobering though - I really don't want to see anyone die and participants repeatedly escaping relatively unscathed from huge gnarly crashes shouldn't numb us to the ultimate risk that ever present out there.
There's always a risk of hitting rocks but it's inarguable that firmer conditions reduce already fine margins. You tend to fall further and faster on hard snow compared to deep pow. It's also harder/less likely that you'll be able to dump a little speed on big cliff landings and between features so the snow conditions absolutely play into the risk factor of bigger, more exposed lines.Quote:
Originally Posted by powdork
I agree but that applies to everyone on the face for the whole comp. I was more referring to Navarro’s style of skiing, which applies to many (Barkered, Malakov , Heitz, Bimboes,etc) where you’re already bringing the super high speeds around the rocks. And it doesn’t matter too much how much snow there is because they are always going to go where the most rocks are cause that’s where the points (and fun) are.
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Mama always told me not to look into the eye's of the sun
But, mama, that's where the fun is