Galpin does state it quite unequivocally, 1:31 into this episode:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
https://open.spotify.com/episode/7cO...Ws2eKpm8l4Q7cB
(Not saying it has to be true then, just that he’s saying it.)
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Galpin does state it quite unequivocally, 1:31 into this episode:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
https://open.spotify.com/episode/7cO...Ws2eKpm8l4Q7cB
(Not saying it has to be true then, just that he’s saying it.)
Great stuff, much thanks for the break down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
I’m 6’1” 165lbs, and have found 16/8 fasting good for me. So, if I’m understanding you correctly, if I am in a fasted state, undergo an activity, then consume carbs, I’ll most likely stay in a version of that state (HSL on). However, HSL on may not be the optimal state for more intense activity (correct?).
If that’s the case, then I “should” be adding carbs before said activity, and in my case perhaps fat to keep me going once the carbs wear off (can’t really bring snacks in the surf).
Am I in the ballpark?
Really appreciate the help👍
Ah, I didn't remember that part. I'd love to hear XtrPickles thoughts on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong
It's *probably* best to maintain a low insulin state for all levels of activity. On average, and again grossly oversimplifying, high insulin puts you in an energy storage mode which seems unlikely to be beneficial for high-intensity activity.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCJC
Oh, this is interesting. I mostly talk about this in the context of continuous activity like running or cycling where it's also easy to carry calories. I'll have to think about this a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCJC
Because I am grossly under qualified, this is where I stumble.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
The USADA article says:
Consuming carbohydrates during exercise lasting longer than 60 minutes ensures that the muscles receive adequate
amounts of energy, especially during the later stages of the competition or workout. This has also been found to improve
performance. The form of carbohydrates consumed does matter.
I haven't looked back so not sure if there's been much discussion on probiotics in this thread.
I've had a really bad summer after my appendix ruptured at the end of April. After 4 days in the hospital I've dealt with secondary infections and abscesses which led to multiple cycles of antibiotics and just a generally jacked up gut. I lost close to 15 lbs (and have gained about 10 of those back) and I'm not a big guy to begin with at 5'8" and now just under 150.
I'd read some good things about L-Reuteri last year and after looking for some answers recently, I was directed to this video on making my own yogurt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftv6quQVo4Q
Lemme say that I normally eat little to no dairy at all, maybe a slice of pizza once a month, but burgers and burritos without cheese has always been my preference. So it was tough for me to wrap my brain around eating yogurt daily, but after 4 months post appendectomy, I was willing to try it.
I bought a 40 buck yogurt maker on Amazon and followed the directions and made my first batch earlier this week. It actually turned out perfect and I've been eating a spoonful a few times daily. First impression is my craps are noticeably different & better than pre-yogurt.
I'll check back with updates as we head into fall.
The key part of that quote is the "during exercise" part. That's consistent with what I've been saying. What you don't want to do is eat a high carb meal 30-60 minutes before you start your activity.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCJC
I was using the free web version. Worth every pennyQuote:
Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles
Ah, thanks for clarifying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
I used carb manager when I was tracking. Obviously I was using it for carbs but it's a general food tracking app, and free (or at least I used a free version).Quote:
Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles
Interesting. I didn’t listen to the podcast but is carb loading the day and days before still beneficial?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
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My tiny medical kit i keep stashed in my pack has a 10mg hydrocodone, and a 20mg Adderall XR. If shit really hits the fan, those are two things id really like to have onhand.Quote:
Originally Posted by zion zig zag
Having full glycogen stores universally benefits performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by PeachesNCream
Anyone use baking soda and swear by it here?
What does Adderall do for you?Quote:
Originally Posted by californiagrown
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Amphetamines increase pain tolerance, suppress appetite, increase focus, and cause insomnia. All things that could be very helpful when SHTF out in the mountains.Quote:
Originally Posted by rod9301
also extremely helpful if you’re a nazi army trying to overrun Europe. The Germans called meth “Pervitin” back thenQuote:
Originally Posted by californiagrown
I believe pervitin was actual methamphetamine (which also worked really well and was partially credited with the success of their blitzkrieg strategy of essentially week long violent meth benders).Quote:
Originally Posted by TG
Adderall and the stuff we give our Airforce pilots for long or mission critical flights is just amphetamines (or atleast was still recently in as of a couple years ago, someone correct me if that has changed). Amphetamines work REALLY fucking well for what they are intended for.
There's plenty of mountain survival stories that credit amphetamines. Does it really increase peak performance? Not in my experience. It feels like it though. Endurance gets a huge boost. It makes those 24h+ missions "pleasant" compared to being over caffeinated.
Then add ambien for forced/unplanned bivouc's and life is much better. Ibuprofen + ambien for the win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cocximus
Both sides were using shitloads of amphetamines in WW2, but Germany and Japan were big fans of methamphetamine while the Allies preferred amphetamine sulfate. I've heard David Nutt argue that these choices may have actually played a non-trivial role in the outcome of WW2. Because amphetamine sulfate lasts 5-6 hours instead of meth's 10-12 hours, when Allied soldiers got back from missions the drugs had worn off and they could get some sleep, but the Germans and Japanese would still be spun up for hours after which compounded over time into serious chronic sleep loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by californiagrown
Adderall is composed of equal parts racemic amphetamine and dextroamphetamine. Provigil/modafinil is also extremely popular in those cohorts, but an entirely different class of drug.Quote:
Originally Posted by californiagrown
I always wondered/suspected that some high level adventure racers (think 6-12 day long events) we’re using prescription meds (adderal/modafinil) for performance enhancement - would be a huge advantage.
I bet many are using a lot more than that............especially in sports/events/activities devoid of drug testing. Think fastest known time enthusiasts, alpinists, ultra-runners, etc, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennymac
Like 72 hr routes on mt hunter?
But the weight of the mortar/pestle kit….?!
It's almost naive to think it's not happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trackhead
Would there be a way to tell, behavior wise (non drug testing)? I likely wouldn’t know what to look for or if I’ve sent it. Would be curious if Viva ran across any in his time in the ultra community.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
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Rotting teeth
Like many of the Euro Uber fast alpinists, runners, etc. Many them earn a living from their media presence which in some ways revolves around speed. I bet ultra running has a drug problem. Many events have the option of post race testing which isn’t hard to pass with an intelligent athlete playing the system well.Quote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
I wonder about athletes like Ueli Steck, Kilian Jornet, and other similar who make a living out of moving fast in the mountains.
Yeah. I agree, but I believe it’s been present in some of that high-level mountain athlete community for decades.
Probably not.Quote:
Originally Posted by fool
Like I said before, greenies and LSD fueled a lot of OG badassery in the '70s. In Valley Uprising Jim Bridwell is extremely open about all those guys tripping their faces off when they were getting after it. Surely it was and still is common in alpinism, ultras, etc., but given the stigma of doping anyone doing it probably keeps it close to the vest.Quote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
No, never.Quote:
Originally Posted by fool
Although coffee was available at aid stations during night sections of 100 milers.
At least here in the USA, folks might be surprised how many adults have an Rx for adderall/vyvanse/ritalin/modinafil/etc. Its only doping if its not legally prescribed by a doctor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trackhead
and ADHD is diagnosed via a questionnaire filled out by the patient and then looking for improvement after a trial of medication - so it’s not like there is some great barrier to getting prescribed these medications
I am naive. But now I get to call FKT-ers meth heads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
I have noticed some of those people can barely sit still waiting for things when not in the mountains. Constant dancing, or constant talking, or constant looking around or just body ticks. it's like hanging out with a squirrel.
We also shouldn’t label every driven athlete as a prescription drug abuser :)
Pill mills do that, I send my patients for neuropsych eval for ADHD diagnosis.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennymac
Yeah, like the Kenalog injections Bradley Wiggins got before three Tour de France races for his "asthma" yet he had no history of using maintenance inhalers or even albuterol inhalers.Quote:
Originally Posted by californiagrown
Therapeutic exemptions, as we all know, are often times bullshit.
In WWII in the army they were encouraged to smoke which was suposed to keep you awake and cigs were really cheap, kill you slower than a speed habit
Consider your situation - you think neuropsychology evals are easily obtainable and available everywhere? Have some perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trackhead
There’s a lot more complexity in the medical system than your anecdotal situation vs everything else is substandard pill mills.
At least in Canada, getting an eval for ADD as an adult, is very hard.