Do you just need the arms? I have an extra set that I could sell you for $20 shipped.
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telemon i put up some pics in this super long thread. They just snap in and out fyi. No tools needed. If anyone has access you can buy or scrounge old arms from old Fritschi Diarmir Freerides and they work in the Tecton and Vipec. If you need the brake pad plastic thingy into which the arms insert then that's something you have to get from BD
Whoa! Damn interesting info lee.
Pm sent to norcal too.
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I just discovered why my brake wasn't staying up in tour mode--one side of the heel pad brake off, so it doesn't take much force to pop the brake open now. I'm pretty sure it happened because the brake arms don't fold in tight to the ski and they probably caught on something while I was skinning through tight, dense woods. I always put the binding in tour mode by first depressing the brake pad with my hand, then placing the heel in tour mode. I never put the heel piece in tour mode first and then stomp on the brake pad--that has been shown to cause the plastic heel pad to break. I put in a warranty claim with BD--we'll see what happens.
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The brakes sticking out is my one annoyance with these things so far. I have them mounted on a 124 mm ski, and they stick out a great deal. I'm actually not sure what width these are (bought them slightly used), but they don't fold in much at all when retracted.
I had my first issue with the Tecton brakes yesterday not staying up. Skinned 7 miles and they were fine, but it was after my first transition that it occurred. Came to the conclusion that it was due to just a little icing underneath the brake pad that collected while skiing down. Once I really scraped it clean, they stayed up in place after that.
I got an email saying they were dealing with my warranty request and the next day a new set of toes showed up with the non-dimpling toe bump and no instructions or request to send my old toes back.
Can’t imagine it working out better than that.
Do I have it right, that other than width labeling, the brake architecture on Evos/Tectons is identical to Vipec Blacks?
The pics in post #s 700 & 909 look the same.
Edit: Never mind. I saw Lee's Post above. Kudos indeed to Fritschi for reverse compatibility.
Never had issues with my Blacks like what's being reported. Maybe just luck or dry Colorado snow?
... Thom
Is there an adjustment to the toe bumper that lines up the step in. I so far love the way these ski and tour but stepping in has been a challenge even when the toe piece is clean. Stepping into kingpins and Verts was easy I have used Tecnica Cochise 120’s for all bindings. So far I haven’t had to transition in sketchy conditions.
I have Cochise 120’s and one of the pluses of the Tecton is how much easier it is to step into than Kingpins. Funny, different approaches I guess. Try stepping into these almost like a regular binding in terms of boot angle.
Thanks to Tahoe and you for the tip. The toes definitely don’t click in as easy as and not as forgiving of not having the heels aligned.
Boy do they ski great I have pushed them very hard on mixed conditions at the resort an at my weight of 165 lbs I felt totally comfortable with them. I did bury the tips off piste on some hidden brush and both toes released smoothly as advertised. They are mounted on wildcat tour 108’s so light but they charge and slarve and hold an edge so much fun. Don’t ski crud or chopped up pow like my Bibby’s but there so light and nimble that a lighter approach to these conditions will be all I could ask for.
A helpful video about mounting brakes to Tecton and Vipec (NOTE: Tecton starts around 1:08).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STGdNEDWWxc
F&&&*CK!!!
Slipped on a ice hard exposed skin, fell/slipped forward and boots are ruined! Now I'm going over this thread to figure out my options.
From the last few pages of the thread, seems like BD is great to work with (consistent with my and people I know ' s experience), so ok, fine, maybe I'll get new toes. I would have maybe liked to have gotten better toe pieces before ruingn my boot (Salomon MTN guides... hopefully they can get punched... will read through the thread..)
Here's a quote from a few pages ago from Fritschi reps:
"This is a relatively uncommon issue with approx 30 known instances, in spite of thousand of units sold. None of the known cases are with the boots you have, and as such this will not be cause for a warranty replacement of the toe."
Either the '30 known instances' is rubbish or I'm extraordinarily unlucky. Regardless, that's some pretty lousy attitude from Fritschi.
In case anyone cares:
I've had 40 - 50 days on these (BD Helio 105s / Salomon MTN guides). They're fine. Can't really tell the difference from various dynafit bindings I've used on the down. I don't like their ski crampon design over dynafit. i'm in the market for a ski mountaineering / traverse ski and these bindings are *not* on the short list.
Hi all,
Has anyone had issues with Scarpa Maestrale RS and Tectons releasing properly. There has been some discussion on the wildsnow forums regarding this. When bench testing my old Maestrale RS boots (several seasons of use, moderate sole wear), they jam up in the binding when bench testing and do not release. My friend has an unused pair of the Maestrale RS boots (also version 1 not the latest RS2) that released almost perfectly in the Tecton except we could feel a tiny bit of grab. We thought the rubber near the toe was catching on the step in guide so we shaved a small bit off and now his boot also jams up in the binding, ugh. My new pair of Tecnica Zero G Pro Tours releases extremely smoothly. The differences in the Scarpas and Tecnicas are the Tecnicas have standard tech fittings and the rubber at the toe is much softer to the point the tecton step-in guide basically pushes all the way through it. On the Maestrale the rubber is harder and the step-in guide can barely dent it.
^ Need pix of rubber interference.
Copy that. Will grab a pic or two in the next few days
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You'd have a chance at upgrading to a gold grill if you skied a proper TGR length BB :fmicon: The front two teeth at least
Excited to get on my new tectons.
I have Maestrale 1.0 (not RS, orange ones) and have had no issues releasing, although I've only had 2 releases that i can recall: one vertical heel release in a head-over-heels fall, and one lateral toe release when my ski caught on a buried limb. My bench tests are smooth. Did you do the test they recommend at the end of this video? If the toe doesn't pop back as shown in the test, there is some recommended adjustment of the pins that I either saw in the instructions or somewhere on the webs.
My Warranty Blog:
Sent in the warranty request almost month ago (1/25). Still hadn't heard back, so I called today. Warranty Dept VM said "too busy to answer the phone." So I called Customer Service Guy.
Customer Service Guy said that when you email in response to your claim, the system "updates" your claim and drops you to the bottom of the priority list. Huh-wut?
Customer Service Guy said that the invagination problem is really an issue on softer plastic boots. He gave me Scarpa F1 and Dalbellos as an example. He said probably no problem for the Maestrale RS, but he would be happy to forward to warranty.
I asked what does BD do if you get invaginated, he replied, "de-vaginate you." Just kidding, he said something about making it right and pleasing the customer. But, he said, let's forward to warranty and try there first.
Customer Service Guy said that BD's warranty dept is a month behind right now due to a recent uptick in claims, but said he would forward my simple claim for quicker resolution.
Two hours later, BD warranty dept emails and says "new toes on the way."
Moral of my Blog: call if you haven't heard from warranty. Don't email.
I heart BD. Customer Service Guy rocks. Can't wait to Tecton.
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This is a bit of a weird one, but does anyone else experience the heel lifters sticking to the boots? I can't for the life of me figure out why, but the lifters stick a little to boots after every step, ending up in this incredibly annoying clicking sound. I thought maybe I had stepped in something sticky, but there's nothing on the soles, nor on the lifters themselves. It's driving me nuts.
Boots are Hawx XTD's.
strange - no, cannot remember that happening, though I have not toured in a while. Perhaps there is bit of tension in the lifters when stood upon, making for rebound as you step off? I dunno.
You could try some silicone spray or to put on a strip of electric tape to mute it perhaps? Should add like 2gr :) Sorry to hear that the binders have some quirks, but then again - that also means that you are using your C&Ds no, so can't be all bad ;)
I thought about tension, but I haven't been able to recreate it on the kitchen counter. It really does feel like there's something sticky on my boots, and I can actually feel it grabbing with every step.
The soles of the Hawx XTD's do pack snow easily around the WTR plate though, so I've wondering if that could be the cause. I suppose packed snow could be causing this... I will investigate further.
Oh yeah, and I thought about silicone spray. Will apply generously. :)
I get the clicking too, but mostly on high riser. I’m pretty sure this is caused by the forward pressure spring being compressed and sliding the heel back.
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yeah, that makes sense. :) If so - then I can't really see a solution to the clicking, other than asking Fritschi to up the tension of that spring or to choose flatter routes in.
Adrgha - do you only/mostly get the clicking on the high rise?
The clicking definitely comes from the riser being lifted up slightly before letting go and clicking into place again. Happens on both, but it seems worse on the low riser.
I guess it would make sense that the heel piece slides back a few mm's when stepped on, creating tension between the riser and the boot.
It has to be said though that I'm quite sensitive to annoying sounds.
^^^ That vaguely sounds familiar.
I had an issue a couple of weeks back on one of those days with transitioning snow that likes to clog and ice-up bindings. One of the heels wouldn't push all the way back into tour mode from ski mode. It was still workable for my last lap or so, but a bit annoying. Didn't spend a ton of time on trying to unstick it, but it wasn't obvious (that I recall now) what to dig out. Maybe ice below the lip that hits the bottom of the boot. I just dealt with it for a bit because the boot contact wasn't that bad, so didn't seem like a ton of wear/contact for one more lap.
I have a BNIB set of Vipec Evo 12 that I'd trade for new/minty Tecton, if anyone out there wants a slightly lighter set up.