The number of cars I see with Blizzaks still on in Tahoe in July is shocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by hafjell
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The number of cars I see with Blizzaks still on in Tahoe in July is shocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by hafjell
It's more about mileage that you put on them during that year and outside temperatures. I wouldn't want to drive them in 100° heat doing 80 mph on the freeway, most likely they would have to be replaced by next winter.Quote:
Originally Posted by hafjell
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Yeah, I run blizzaks year round on a 2008 subi outback. It's now my HS kids' car and doesn't get a lot of miles. Our mechanic recommended it years ago and I prefer it to storing/swapping tires. They wear surprisingly well for being a soft winter tire.Quote:
Originally Posted by hafjell
I did just get Blizzaks for our new car, and will prob swap them in the spring as I'm storing the OE tires anyway.
“A trip to the ditch is cost you > the price of snot tires and maybe your life”
Lots and lots of people here in Winthrop just leave the snow tires on all season. It just doesn’t get super hot and people aren’t driving hard anyway. I mean I swap tires now cause I drive like a maniac, but when I lived in the Bay area and drove back-and-forth to Tahoe, I just looked for very aggressive all-seasons and didn’t drive like an asshole in the snow.
Got to love the winter year round crowd. They think they are saving money by not switching out and then 2 years later are buying a new set of winter tires. God bless 'em!
Some of the blizzaks only have winter rubber on the top portion of their tread.
I ran winter tires year round (not blizzaks) on my old subie cuz the HG was starting to go and I didn’t want to buy another set of tires if I’d only get a month or so of use. Little did I know, the car would go for another 30k miles before the HG got really bad….
I did it living in Montana with a POS Xterra. With the local pass opening late in May or early in June, I'd want the winter tires on through then anyhow and often back on in September.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toadman
Plus I had a motorcycle available for most of my summer needs.
Now that I'm back in Maine, it would almost be worth leaving winter tires on year round given how few miles I put on. I just replaced a set of snow tires that are around 50% tread but have six seasons on them.
Mostly it’s like, when it’s > 60F out, do you really enjoy that squirmy feeling of driving on a down pillow that can’t track a straight line above 60 mph and also stops about as well as a down pillow?
It’s always a breath of fresh air on a warm day when the summer tires come back on, ahhhhhhhhhhh. That’s nice.
I can’t imagine what it’s like on a 100F day in SLC on Blizzak DM-V2s.
Just to add a data point, a white knuckle creeping slip/slide down Little Cottonwood Canyon in SLC with my Falken Wildpeaks with practically useless braking ability is what finally convinced me to switch to Nokian studded snow tires for the winter months.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Chupacabra
I keep considering all weather AT tires for an occasionally used vehicle, but what messes with my head is the few times I have unexpectedly encountered incredibly slippery ice or wet packed snow conditions where I needed every bit of traction that dedicated snows provided, while I watched others really struggle (or fail) to keep their vehicles on the road. In most conditions most of the time, you might not really needed that much traction, but sometimes those rare insanely-slippery conditions aren’t always easy to predict. Once, it was driving back on the ski area access after a mild spring day when a snap freeze turned it into a skating rink.Quote:
Originally Posted by 3PinGrin
I rock cheap snow tires on my work vans and trucks year round. No way I'm paying and dealing with switching tires on five vehicles twice a year. Wife drives her Nokians year round too.
I rock KO2's and Duratracs on my personal trucks though. No problems in winter. We don't get much ice.
FYI BFG has some new KO3's out. Only available in two sizes atm though. I think they'll be coming on Ford Ranger Raptors and Broncos or something like that.
I’m going with the vredstein quadtrack pro’s on my wrx .My second choice was Pirelli winter Zotos, which seems like the ultimate performance winter tire, but I plan on using the vredstein yr round after I burn through my summer tires this yr. Thenquadtrac are like a split tire, sipes on the inside.
I don’t why I care so much, it’s awd, and I never thought about this so hard with my Pilot. Subarus can’t suck, not with decent tires.
I have an sti, and i use a summer tire and Michelin x ice snow tire in the winter. But i go skiing a few days a week
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Sti? Nice. I love my wrx.Quote:
Originally Posted by rod9301
Id do that, but my trips are long and far. First trip,is 6000 miles, 4 weeks. rare, but it’s usually I 70 though Kansas. I Want something to give me two winters, then full time. These quadracs had good reviews as an all weather on wrx’s. I’ll miss the teeth chatting Dunlops though.I also wanted something I may just keep on if I prefer the softer ride.
I run winters after the 3rd season if my summer tires are done. Not Blizzark, but no problem at 100F. Thinking of running only winters on the backup rig.Quote:
Originally Posted by SchralphMacchio
Guess the question might be, what is the best summer winter tire? had acceptable results with cheaper Nordman 7. Great for two winters, okay for the third and then fine for a summer or two.
The General Altimax's on our Rav4 do just fine in warm temps, can hardly tell a handling difference. I'll probably burn off what's left of them next summer (this will be their 4th winter).
The Blizzaks on our Promaster are noticeably soft >60F. Not surprising on a rig with that weight I suppose.
Problem with vid is comparing on a packed/groomed surface at 4f. That's cold grippy snow. In SLC, you don't have whatever days of snow packed roads but you do get some armageddon. Cold snow, whatever and not bad. Gray slush, "wet" vehicle packed with powder falling can get sketch. Red snake cadillac burners can get slick. AT kind of suck on warm hard pack and ice like conditions. Cold, deep slushplane, they are fine. It would be cool to see that same test in warmer snow with some vehicle compated gray ice. Throw in a handful of off-branded cheap ass snow tires to compare with the $200+A/T tires. Like the $100 variety you can get at Walmart.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Chupacabra
Just picked up a deal on a set of Pirelli Cinturato P7’s.
I was going to run them next spring as my summer tires, but I think I’m going to throw them on and see how I like them until ski season starts.
“Warm hard pack and ice like” describes the ultra slippery conditions that make me nervous to run AT tires in winter. Cold packed snow is super grippy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meconium
I put about 500 miles on the these Pirelli "all weathers" over the holiday weekend. We didn't encounter any snow, but we did get some slippery surfaces, different versions of ice forming or remnants of past storms.
This is the only tire marked "all weather" with a snowflake that I've ever tested, so I'm certainly NOT speaking for other manufacturers and models. BUT, this tire did not seem preferential to an all season tire to me. If you're trying to avoid the occasional forced chain up - sure it has a snowflake, so you can probably pull that off. I'm in an AWD car, so that isn't an issue. I have a set of rad full winter tires sitting on other rims in the garage, so they'll go on ride soon. These felt the same as an all season tire to me. Maybe in the case of my summers, the stock Continentals that came on my car, these are worse. They have tall soft sidewalls and they didn't feel appreciably better on stuff that's really slick. The lower profile all seasons are actually more positive because there's less sway and at least you know what you're getting, I'd rather slide around an inch or two lower to the ground that feel like I'm swaying into corners just waiting for traction to break.
So, to each their own, but these would be a big fat NO for me if I were contemplating them instead of a dedicated snow tire. I'd run snows year round and switch them out more frequently before I'd try and drive this through the winter.
So far so good on the Yok G015s. Got to play a bit in the couple inches that fell in the Denver burbs.
287 between Foco and Laramie was pretty spicy yesterday with the wind. There was a ton of leftover carnage from a day or two prior, probably 10ish banged up vehicles abandoned on the side of the road... one roll over. Guy in front of me towing an empty horse trailer almost got blown off the road numerous times. Our traction was solid.
Proper snows waiting on deck for real winter.
FYI simpletire.com has a pretty good cyber Monday sale going on today if anyone is in the market. Got some e-rated Wildpeaks for the Tundra w/ camper ~$1600 w/ extra warranty. Free shipping too. Got the wife some new snow tires too. That puts me at all new tires on our fleet of 5 vehicles this year. Hopefully we are good for a while ugh.
I've been rocking KO2s on my Sequoia for a few weeks in snow and they seem as good if not better than the Nordmans that I used to have on my Tacoma, different vehicles though.
Are these the Pirelli WeatherActives? Had some in my cart and almost pulled the trigger. Getting some all weathers for new Atlas, had Wildpeaks on my Tiguan and might go that route.
I've been running all weather tires for a few years now - Have been pleased for sure. Of course I live just outside the heat island so I'm far from a high alpine environment . That being said - it does get cold and it does snow here. In my travels north - I'm liable to experience rain at onset going into ice then packed snow then deep snow - anything's possible. I'm also a firm believer in being prepared when you need traction. Nokian WRG4's have been really nice as a year round choice for me. Between 2 pairs on an XC70 and an A4 Avant they've been really responsive in the dry all summer, think 2 summers by now, plenty of bite in packed snow and icy conditions - a great compromise IMHO. Think I have close to 30k on both pairs and they holding up really well.
Just scored set of GEOLANDAR CV 4S which I think just came out in October. Will report back.
No. Pirelli Cinturato P7’s if that question was for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennettc14
Just got a new to me car and it came with Michelin CrossClimate2 tires. It has the 3 peaks/snowflake rating but they are classified as all-seasons. The car is AWD (a first for me). Anybody got any opinions on these tires? Since it's going to rain 2" all over Vermont early next week, I have some time to get snows if the Michelins won't cut it.
They normally test at or near the top for all weather tire in snow and just a pretty good tire overall:Quote:
Originally Posted by MyNameIsAugustWest
https://www.tire-reviews.com/Article...-Tire-Test.htm
You won’t get much better from an all season, but a good true winter tire is still going to be better in snow, and more so on ice.
We put a set on our CX-3 last spring, but still switching out for winters.
^ thanks for the beta.
My wife's Ridgeline (AWD) has Blizzaks so maybe I'll just keep the Michelins on the new car and if it's storming, drive her car.
Put the crossclimate on our 4Runner AWD. Intend to leave them on all year round. So far on limited snow here in Sun Valley they seem fine.
Congrats on the new ride mang, I’m not a fan of those Michelins - they tend to get pretty loud as they age with the tread design. Not a fan. I’d go dedicated snows if I were you or keep it parked- but I’d also make sure the alignment/ inflation / rotation is pretty consistent to negate the future noise!
Thanks A. I’ll probably use it as a ”good weather” ride. Wife’s Ridgeline can cover the 3 days of winter we’re likely to have this year. Onboard system says the tires are overinflated. I’ll adjust tomorrow.
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Curious if anyone has tried the Bridgestone Weatherpeaks. Got the winter rating and look like a better tread than the Crossclimate. Saw them at Costco the other day and they had me wondering.
Second winter with Michelin CrossClimate 2. I have them on two cars - Fiat Doblo FWD and BMW 3-series X-drive. They are nice all-rounders with decent, though not stellar, snow performance.
I have chains in the trunk but never had the occasion to use them.
Put about 1,000 miles on the Michelin CrossClimate2 over the holidays. Loud? Yes. Vibration? Yes. Pretty sure I'm not going to like these tires even though the cheapskate in me says deal with it. Car has a B-service coming up and I'm going to have an alignment check done then. No pull or even a shimmy in the steering wheel but I can feel a very slight vibration. Pretty sure it's the tires...Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
FWIW, I’ve never had any problems like that in my 2 sets of CCs. And they’re pretty great in New Mexico snow.Quote:
Originally Posted by MyNameIsAugustWest
Mine are great. Perhaps your balance is fucked up.Quote:
Originally Posted by MyNameIsAugustWest
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliBrit
^ hope you are right. I'll have them check that as well (obviously).
I’m between KO2s and Wildpeaks for my 4Runner. Have you found either to be better than the other in snow (IE driving I70 on a powder day)?Quote:
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