Tahoe Weather, Conditions, Stoke, and What's Up Thread...

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Originally Posted by splat

Damn, it was an awesome sight to see bunch of maggots to show up at my place and build a flood retention wall of sandbags around the shop today so we could keep on building skis.
YOU GUYS WERE FUCKING AWESOME!!!
So many thanks in so many directions. Talk about a feeling of maggot solidarity like I haven't seen since the mammoth minis fo the last few years. Good to meet some peeps I hadn't and what an incredible result manifested outside the shop and inside as well. I totally blew all my outside pics taken to document a full tr but I got this one of setting the Wintersteiger up on blocks.

Thanks again, guys. And a special thanks to gone2alpine's wife showing up!

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The power of FKNA.

RENO 911!

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Splat wrote a mushy love letter to his favorite politicians for all to see. Funny, I didn't take him for a PDA kinda guy; I stand corrected...

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I was promised hookers and blow, but got this sorry old manwhore instead. FKNA? uh, not exactly......


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"What has two thumbs and likes to bone your mom?......

This guy!"


-- Todd 'Splat' Packer


hope those teabags hold back the deluge!!!

and yeah, the stupendous bodacity of the maggot collective will blow your mind!!!!

and and, it was an honor and a pleasure to meet youse guys.

FKNA!

That's the spirit lads!

Just got the text from teams that Squaw is closed again today. Surprising exactly no one.

Stay safe....

Kirkwood is also closed today. Thanks JW.

The big rains are hitting the bay area now. It was all quiet when I woke up at 4:30am and has been picking up steadily all morning. Looking at the current radar, you Tahoe area mags might be dodging the bullet -- worst of it seems to be tracking just south. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Sierra closed too. Don't wash the base away JW.

It looks like things may be okay for Splat at PM Gear today. Snow levels already dropping and front moving fast.

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Just rained as hard as I've ever seen it in Sac, a bit of localized flooding, cant get out of my court due to standing water.

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Originally Posted by snapt

Just rained as hard as I've ever seen it in Sac, a bit of localized flooding, cant get out of my court due to standing water.

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Yup, band of strong rain stretching from bay area to a little north of Sac, but the heaviest rains don't seem to be pushing into the Sierras.

It's pissing rain in Reno right now. The radio, tv and newspapers still saying the river will flood around two or three o'clock, telling people not to go out. But we all know how panic prone these media outlets can be. We're heading in to keep working until they tell us we have to leave. Taking my diving mask and snorkel...

this says it all...hang tough Splat and crew!

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/west/weus/flash-rb.html

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Originally Posted by MrSmith

The big rains are hitting the bay area now. It was all quiet when I woke up at 4:30am and has been picking up steadily all morning. Looking at the current radar, you Tahoe area mags might be dodging the bullet -- worst of it seems to be tracking just south. Keeping my fingers crossed.

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why do you think that

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Originally Posted by MrSmith

Yup, band of strong rain stretching from bay area to a little north of Sac, but the heaviest rains don't seem to be pushing into the Sierras.

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and why do you think that

and it's just Sierra, not Sierras

^^^ Now that actually looks like a fire hose.

Absolutely pouring in the South Bay right now.

Great morning to pull out of the garage and notice I have a flat tire...

splat - heading to Truckee in a bit - should be there about the time shit hits the fan - can head over to Reno if needed for extra assistance - keep us updated, yo!

turning to snow/snain as of 10am in alpine

Turning to snow in the Sierra Meadows lowlands of Truckee too as of 10 am.

Snowing, and sticking, at lake level. Looks like we can get a solid say of low elevation snow.

Mmmmmm......Sierra Spackle!

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Originally Posted by ukeskis

turning to snow/snain as of 10am in alpine

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Timestamp on your post says 11:59 AM. Not sure how you reported to us from the future, but I can confirm that as of 10:06 AM at 6500' in Kings Beach, it is snow in the air and rain on the ground. Can you tell me, oh future-person, what is happening two hours from now at Northstar? I mean besides everyone who can't go to any of the closed resorts showing up and clogging the place.

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Originally Posted by bendtheski

feel free to pass some of that moisture on to Colorado!

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you can have it as soon as we are done washing our cars with it. I recommend sending it through Canada to cool off first.

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Originally Posted by powdork

why do you think that

and why do you think that

and it's just Sierra, not Sierras

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Maybe it's just me, but this looks like it could have been worse for the Tahoe basin, whatever is happening on the ground. Sorry if my trying to stay positive is bringing you down. And thanks for the grammar lesson, much appreciated.

Note, the storm is tracking to the south east.

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Originally Posted by lepistoir

Timestamp on your post says 11:59 AM.

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it does? Might want to check your forum settings.

^^^^not so much a grammar lesson, but proper use of proper names. It is not like you are Mr.Smiths. And the whole "Sierras" thing I a pet peeve of the dork.

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Originally Posted by kidwoo

WTF is that supposed to mean?

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The first part refers to me quoting pictures too much. The second part refers to you calling people retarded. No biggy. It could also mean I'm a bit of an Internet d bag.

Happy to hear of dropping snow levels.

Edit. Dammit Dallas, sneaking and and poaching my spot. My ^^^ refers to two posts up.

Splat, are there enough sandbags to keep water from entering all of the other units? Not sure how the interior walls in your complex are made, but if water gets into one unit it could run under/through the stud/sheetrock walls into all of the others. Hopefully the interior walls are also cinder block & cemented to the floor.

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Originally Posted by Ottime

^^^^not so much a grammar lesson, but proper use of proper names. It is not like you are Mr.Smiths. And the whole "Sierras" thing I a pet peeve of the dork.

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So "Sierra Nevada Mountains" is not a valid construction around here and "Sierras" is not a valid contraction of said construction? Seems a pretty pedantic point if even technically incorrect, which I don't really concede.

Just turned to now out in the South lake county

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Originally Posted by MrSmith

So "Sierra Nevada Mountains" is not a valid construction around here and "Sierras" is not a valid contraction of said construction? Seems a pretty pedantic point if even technically incorrect, which I don't really concede.

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Sierra Nevada refers to the entire range as a singular entity. It's Spanish for "snowy range," or "snowy chain of mountains."

Multiple Sierras means multiple ranges. Sierra Nevada mountains is pretty redundant. Granted, we will call out sub-ranges within the system, such as the Crystal Range, Cathedral Range, Carson Range, etc. In that interpretation, multiple Sierras might be kind of somewhat a reasonable description, but really they are part of the same general complex.



But the real question is, if snowline stays well below 7800' today, will patrol be able to open up any decent terrain tomorrow? Looks like a good possibility of more rain and wet stuff on Tuesday.

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Originally Posted by MrSmith

Maybe it's just me, but this looks like it could have been worse for the Tahoe basin, whatever is happening on the ground. Sorry if my trying to stay positive is bringing you down. And thanks for the grammar lesson, much appreciated.

Note, the storm is tracking to the south east.

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the reason it's all yellow in the valley and not in the mountains is just the way the radar reads it. i don't know why that is but the yellow and red never make it past the foothills despite the fact that the mountains are dragging more moisture from the atmosphere. the storms almost always move down the mountains from north to south like this, and it was how it was forecast. things aren't that bad at all in the basin and its turned to all snow at the lake. it's the rivers on the eastside that could be a problem in the next several hours although the snow levels dropped more quickly than forecast so that's great news if its in time.
and yeah, the Sierra Sierras thing is a pet peeve of mine. Sierra is the correct construct of Sierra Nevada Mountains

Complete carnage over echo summit right now. Beamers and minivans sans chains flipped off the road all over the place. Snow levels dropping to lake

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Originally Posted by parkmeister

RENO 911!

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and and, it was an honor and a pleasure to meet youse guys.

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It was good meeting you too, parkmeister. Hopefully things hold up for Splat.

The pics out of Rose's facebook feed look pretty tasty. Anyone else heading up there tomorrow?

One hour of Tanuki:
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Also, what happened right as it turned to snow, about 10:30...
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Originally Posted by SchralphMacchio

But the real question is, if snowline stays well below 7800' today, will patrol be able to open up any decent terrain tomorrow? Looks like a good possibility of more rain and wet stuff on Tuesday.

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I'm pondering the same question. I was at Kirkwood yesterday and the weather just never cooperated enough for patrol to get on top of things. Considering a mulligan tomorrow.

Things are looking pretty good at my house at bridge 10. Woke up a bunch last night to check on flooding and the river never even reached the banks thankfully! Fortunate that all the sensationalism from the news and even the local fire department was just hype...

i think that question just went thru everyones head around here. here comes the BOOM!!!

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Originally Posted by powdork

the reason it's all yellow in the valley and not in the mountains is just the way the radar reads it.

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The reason is that the mountains do a great job of blocking the beam and thus underestimating the precipitation rates (radar returns). The heavy precipitation over the Valley can occur at 2,3,4, etc thousand feet and the radar can see it, whereas in the mountains, the terrain blocks/scatters the beam and it only gets a fraction of the returns. If you back-calculated the returns for the mountains based on rain/snowfall rates, you would see yellows/reds very often.

Snow level 5500 and dropping to my patio as I write on tha south side of the Vine. In the last 4 days I've gotten 25% of the annual precip...

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and yeah, the Sierra Sierras thing is a pet peeve of mine. Sierra is the correct construct of Sierra Nevada Mountains

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Me too! Drives me crazy.

Thanks for helping folks understand the way language works.

FWIW, I completely understand the "Sierra/Sierras" argument and use them more or less interchangeably as I feel they are both valid due to various etymological arguments that I won't go into. I find "Sierra" more elegant and consequently borderline crusty, language lives my friends.

Regarding radar, though I've been a backcountry traveler in the Sierra for nearly a decade, doing my Avy 1 course last season got me way amped up on weather nerdiness. In my limited experience winter storms of this intensity and magnitude are pretty rare so I allow that my radar interpretation may be lacking and possibly wishful thinking. In the end though, I'm not trying to trivialize, rather the opposite.

lurk, then post, then smoke. Order of operations round here.

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Originally Posted by MrSmith

FWIW, I completely understand the "Sierra/Sierras" argument and use them more or less interchangeably as I feel they are both valid due to various etymological arguments that I won't go into. I find "Sierra" more elegant and consequently borderline crusty, language lives my friends.

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The only 'rules' about language come once the language is officially 'dead'. Until then, style is all we have, so feel free to use the incorrect style as long as you can handle the heckling! :)

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Originally Posted by MrSmith

Regarding radar, though I've been a backcountry traveler in the Sierra for nearly a decade, doing my Avy 1 course last season got me way amped up on weather nerdiness.

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Excellent. Next, take Avy 2 and/or Mountain Weather at the Lake Tahoe Community College; you will be super stoked on the improved understanding and skills.

And, two beers into lunch, it occurs to me that if your argument for using "Sierra" rests on its interpretation from Spanish, i.e. your really just saying "the range", then it should not be capitalized and you're all doing it wrong. So there.

I guess pedantic arguments about language are a pet peeve of mine.

Lagunitas apologizes in advance.