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I'm also using the Outpath skis with a different Solly boot, older version maybe? I too am a nordic noob, using them when I can't make the drive to tour or resort ski.
Regarding length, there is a weight chart under the product specs. I'm on the 195 at 5'11" 190lbs and they feel right.
Saw Juha win his Silver in the 50k at Placid in 80. I'm that old.
Sorry, this was meant for Tamburello:Quote:
Originally Posted by davjr96
I would consider some of the half edge type skis instead of the full metal edge, because if you’re gonna be in the track ever, there’s no need to carry around the extra weight of the tip and tail edge. Also, the tip and tail edge actually makes it harder to stay in the track I have had a pair of partial edge skis for over 30 years and I really don’t want the edge for how I use them, (which is basically tromping around the sagebrush).
Thanks for the response. So, you're saying something more like this, correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by plugboots
https://www.rei.com/product/224869/s...olink-bindings
According to the specs on REI, the wider skis with full edges are 3 oz. lighter per pair. I imagine that's incorrect. Any input on length? My height is 5'10" (178cm) and my weight is 180-ish lb. Either way, thanks again for the feedback!
Looking for combi boots for my daughter - as small as they make. I believe that's a size 30.
Would you trust these?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/32588577381...lpIKbpCibb_KkM
You should get the 200.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tamburello Rouge
I mean for $35, why not? That said, I don’t have any information about your daughter. I mean if she’s a strong skate skier that’ll just be kind of OK.Quote:
Originally Posted by funkendrenchman
Realistically, where are you going to be skiing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tamburello Rouge
The vast majority of people don't need metal edges at all because they are either skiing in groomed XC areas or meandering around flat enough terrain that an edge simply isn't necessary (unless you're on ice, you can still turn a plastic edged ski just fine even on fresh snow).
And if you don't need the edge, its going to be so much more rewarding to be on lighter/faster gear.
Also are you interested in skating? or just classic? Might be worth getting some rentals and playing around first. Unlike Alpine gear, rentals don't suck...you don't have anywhere near the boot fit issues and most places rent pretty decent skis.
She's 7. Strong at classic and just started skating this year. She's also small - 43lbs. Was thinking the cuff would help her a bit for skating. She won't fit in a skate boot for 3 more years.Quote:
Originally Posted by plugboots
From my initial post:Quote:
Originally Posted by singlesline
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Originally Posted by Tamburello Rouge
I don't know if there are groomed trails in the SNO-Parks, or not. I'm guessing not but maybe I don't need an edge either way. Maybe something like this would be sufficient:Quote:
Originally Posted by singlesline
https://www.rei.com/product/224870/s...olink-bindings
Probably not interested in skating. Mostly classic XC. I might try renting. Thanks for the feedback.Quote:
Originally Posted by singlesline
Better than all right conditions at Lake Louise today. Did Fairview Loop with wax (yellow) and was surprised at how good it was for the temperatures we are seeing.
Trophy Wall on Rundle is in very sporting condition.
I have tried a few time to upload images, but they come in upside down so I’m just not going to bother anymore.
dont throw in the towel Darren!
we like upside down pix, it reminds us of being drunk ....
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39°, but still pretty fucking good.
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Ha! There you go!
Feels like gravity is gone and I’m just floatingQuote:
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https://youtu.be/1CX9YGgo4_s?si=M9UgTe2I5wW5vKYEQuote:
Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn
Anyone try the Ski Trab skate skis? Mostly interested because they are flat/ bar back mount and I have relevant binders that are not slide on plate contraptions. You can get almost free new s-lab world cup, two bar link whatever boots and bindings. Totally relevant imo, everyone panicked because discontinued. The harder part is finding skis without mounting plates.
Rottefella Xplore update: I took them out today for 16k verts at Snowbasin. They did well! This set of Xplores is mounted to an old pair of skinny used-to-be-called-tele skis that I remain fond of, Swallow TR Alpines, 63-53-58, 210s of course, with an alpine camber:
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Yeah, the ones on the left. Here's a close-up of the mount; notice that the quick-release mechanism allows a place to attach runaway straps.
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Anyway, for turning... I like 'em. Look, these skis aren't for cranking through crud, or cranking through anything (they do powder though!) I was skiing groomers today (and what the groomers eventually turned into). Face it, no boots/skis kit that's compatible/appropriate for these bindings is going to doing serious ripping of any sort. But for a day at the Basin, these bindings felt right on for doing lots of turns, teles and parallels.
The pivot and push-back (I used the "hard" flex plug today) made for a 3-pin with leather Asolos kind of turning flex. Which, really, I kind of miss (on moderate angle favorable snow anyway) ever since my various duckbill leathers all either broke, washed out, or got retired because they hurt too much. Are they "active"? Not at all; again, very 3-pin like. The additional resistance, compared to the default plug, is appreciated though.
Torsionally? Quite good. I could feel the edge response. My Extremes pushed these same skis harder because those had stiffer uppers, and a stiff duckbill. On the other hand, my Asolo Summits had less stiff uppers and a less stiff duckbill; these (significantly lighter) boots with the Xplore connection definitely outperform those.
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So it's a thumbs-up on Xplore from me; they stride beautifully (see my earlier post about a page back), and they turn nicely (for the kind of gear they are appropriate on).
About the flex plugs: I said previously that I thought I'd be good with the hard plugs for all-around. I take that back, being on the hard plugs all day today. These are just right for a day of downhilling, but they're going to be a bit too much resistance for considerable striding. You can do some, though. The default plugs are going to be less ideal for doing turns, but they'll still do turns; all the torsional control is there regardless of the lesser amount of push-back. Would be nice to have a set of flex plugs in between the two, actually, oh well. Anyway, I can now see the possibility of switching out flex plugs on some tours, if there's going to be a change of theme for a mile or two of the tour. Which is fine, really, the plugs weigh almost nothing, and they can be switched quite easily.
The biggest negative on these things is that they're stupid expensive, $250 retail, literally double the price of a set of NNN-BCs, or the racing version of NNN. And the binding doesn't even have any moving parts (aside from the lever that depresses the spring-loaded boot pins to release them from the binding). It's the same price as some full, dynamically releasable toe and heel, downhill bindings. It hardly makes sense. Even from a marketing standpoint... shouldn't they be concerned about establishing this thing as a somewhat popular standard, while competing with much cheaper 3-pins that lots of people's quivers already have an investment in? Anyway. I had a good day on them today at Basin.
Nice!
Thanks for the great write up!
Maybe I missed it, Bob, what boots are you using?
xplor seems pretty great in concept for xcd. I would love to give them a shot, but the cost is crazy town. I also hope a double boot can be developed cuz intuition liners can really help with the fit. Some sort of equivalent to t4/excursions. I’ve had plenty of fit issues (heal blisters and toe blisters) with xcd boots. I know that scarpa has some sort of distribution deal with rotte at least in North America.
Well, this season is going bust locally. Our little loppet next weekend is now canceled. Drove by to check the trail access to the local peak to do some sled certifications this weekend, and the snow is gone even from the upper elevations of our XC area. Won’t be using the local mountain for the sled training either - newbs and mixed gravel and ice trails for a couple km’s won’t mix well. These are April conditions in Jan/Feb. Craziest ‘winter’ weather in my 16yrs here.
Best day of the season. Feet are finally attached to my body! I found this tip for V2 online. Pretend you’re bouncing a ball off the top of your skis and catching it on the way back up. It really helps with timing and helps produce powerful kick-off.
Love Winter. I noticed that top five Unbound racer, Sarah Lange knocked off 50miles not K, at a 6:30 pace, up at Green Woodlands today, savage
Today in Grafton VT
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Alfa Vista Advance GTX. I know they're discontinued, because that's why I got a great price on them. I think they're more comfortable than any Asolo leathers I've ever had, other than the Glissades, which were lighter duty than these. Pair weight, my size actual weight, is 60 oz, surprisingly light considering the turning control that I can manage with them (versus 48 oz for my Salo NNN combi boots, 98 oz for my Excursions with Intuitions, 96 oz for my old painful Extremes that I still have).Quote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
That’s awesome.
Any midwest mags have a prediction on the birkie happening? I know they are talking about a lap course (10k??), but how are they going to get everyone through that in 2 days?
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Alpine this morning, Nordic this afternoon, legs are smoke.
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Official announcement will be on Feb 12.Quote:
Originally Posted by Laps
My personal prediction is they cobble together some short loop near the start just to say they did it. No way the whole route is open. They really hyped the 50th Anniversary event and now this happens.
Here is my favorite Nordic trail in the area, pic yesterday by a friend.
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That’s what I was afraid of. I was hoping they’d postpone til next year rather than force it, but oh well. Thanks for the info!
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New skate skiing boot/binding system coming from Madshus/Rottefella:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVudJbh-sUo&t=739s
Interdasting
Looks very similar to what many of us envisioned a new telemark norm binding would look like so many years ago. Essentially a take on a SPD cleat set under the ball of the foot. Luckily the torque of a XC skater isn’t close to what a telemark skier in bumps might need.Quote:
Originally Posted by andy m
Looks nice. I’d like to see a BC version that has a locked down heel.
Here is the official announcement:Quote:
Originally Posted by Laps
https://www.birkie.com/2024/02/chang...kie-week-2024/
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Thanks for that. I watched the livestream Mon night. Pretty impressive that they are going forward with it, although being in wave 10 after 3k+\- people ski the 10k loop is going to be interesting. Definitey brining a headlamp for a late finish!
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Any body headed to the world cup this weekend? Going up to see our women crush it.
I’m so bummed that Ben O had to scratch as he has mono. I’ll be cheering on the USwomen and the men!Quote:
Originally Posted by new yabyum