Jane definitely would have led to Jesse's death. And I think Walter upon initial discovery of Jane's predicament wanted to help, but before he did anything he started to realize that this was for the better. So he watched her die.
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Jane definitely would have led to Jesse's death. And I think Walter upon initial discovery of Jane's predicament wanted to help, but before he did anything he started to realize that this was for the better. So he watched her die.
Jane threatened Walt. Threatened his control over Jesse. Threatened him with blackmail if he didn't cough up Jesse's share of the loot (which she wanted to buy smack). If you think Walt wanted to help Jane, you are wrong. He may have unintentionally caused her suffocation by rolling her onto her back but he consciously chose to watch her die. Stuck around to make sure it happened, in fact. Walt directly or indirectly killed just about every character that threatened him except for Jesse and Skyler.
check this out, breaking bad humor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDqGAUvWKkU
I like that... but the director has said that losing the watch was an afterthought, and was only done because of a continuity error in a later scene (that they could not re-shoot) where Walt is not wearing the watch.Quote:
He ditches his watch...his time has run out.
Right, but they didn't waste the opportunity; they fix a continuity error AND use those few seconds to tell story. Its the way he does it that conveys the sense of the man for whom time no longer has relevance. His first words to Skyler are: "It's over." I'll say it again, BB uses the camera to tell its story symbolically better than any other show I can think of.
great show yo.
Just finished, and could finally look at the thread (read the last 10 pages or so).
I had problems with Walt's escape from NH, there was an awful lot to ignore for that to happen, but I like neckdeep's explanation (and I concur with the general praise for neckdeep's overall contributions here).
loved the way he handled Elliot and what's her name, that "act" was brilliant, including the Badger and Skinny Pete appearance.
I'm surprised that nobody here is talking about Jesse, what happens to him. They want to leave you with a feeling of relief for him, the lives happily ever after ending, but how? He has no money (right?), he's wanted by the cops (although if he disappears I think he'd be presumed dead), and he needs a lifetime of intensive therapy after all that's happened to him. I'd have felt better if somehow he managed to get out with a lot of money, yo.
I heard Line of Fire by Junip on the radio today. Brought back Breaking Bad memories and made me realize how much I miss this incredibly awesome show.
I am on the last episode, second time through. You notice so much more, definitely worth a second watch. What a fantastic show.Quote:
Originally Posted by nogophers
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^^^this. You catch so much that you missed the first time. Can't wait for senility to warrant a third run through -
re-watched first 3 seasons as a visiting Dutch relative had never seen. So good the second time around, know what is going to happen but pick on so much more.
I am going to watch the shit out of this:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...the-first-one/
Just watched again. Have a question. How did Hank find the Tuco 's place out in the desert by tracking Jesse's car?
Jesse, prizing his badass set of wheels, had (foolishly, given his occupation) set it up with a Lojack anti-theft system, which includes GPS tracking.
Just binged a few.
I like symbolism. Fellini like.
Regarding the airplane crash. Not sure if this was suggested but I think he did it on purpose as revenge. If you recall after he found his daughter there was no anger or emotion at all. When he arrived back to work there was no emotion. He didn't show panic or confusion when he was barking out coordinates either. Walter didn't make an effort to save the girl either.
Interesting take. I just thought the ATC was in shock over losing his daughter; distracted and acting rotely without his mind being fully engaged in his job.
Of course, the blame seemingly goes back to Walter White, who passively watched Jane die without doing anything to save her. But Walter didn't make Jane a junkie, and she was certainly a threat to both Walter and Jessie.
Maybe this is also a reference to Pablo Escobar and the airplane he caused to crash in Columbia?
Mmmm, maybe I need to watch the series over again. Or a new season of Better Call Saul would do.
That's pretty much what makes sense. If ATC-guy wanted to down a plane, let's face it, putting two planes into the same general region of airspace, or even to cross precise GPS coordinates, would have been a ridiculous long-shot way to bring a plane down.Quote:
Originally Posted by billyk
Which brings us to the fact that the whole ABQ-737 plot line is an absurd reach of a coincidence, regardless. Skies were clear, and pilots (not to mention automated equipment onboard) would have been alert to the trajectory of a nearby plane. And in any case, a near miss would have been vastly more likely than a direct hit.
The plane crash thing works for me, sort of, only because it's almost irrelevant to the series' larger plot lines, and because it's more a karmic parable, about the larger consequences of Walt's career direction, than anything else.
There's a movie in the works. Very few details.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/08/enter...vie/index.html
Supposedly it's going to be a Jesse sequel, which makes sense, as he's the main loose end, that is the one person, other than Saul who has his own show already, who'd been mixed up in the meth trade who isn't dead at the end of BB (well, aside from Skyler, sort of, but she'd gotten pulled into the periphery of the game not really out of choice).
Jesse's logical path coming out of the finale is to get hauled into jail (he'd been wanted to begin with, his prints are all over the place at a major crime scene, and he's the sole survivor of two successive drug gangs; and he's burnt out mentally and physically, and has no resources whatsoever), then takes a generous plea deal (because there's evidence against him, but no living witnesses, and far from an air-tight case once it's established that he'd been a prisoner at Uncle Jack's compound). But then, that isn't so interesting.
And the Breaking Bad universe doesn't take the logical path.
So then, I guess this next chapter begins with Jesse considering turning himself in, but is confronted with a scenario that makes his situation even more desperate, leading him to do something preposterous and awesome as his only way out of a seemingly impossible bind. Looking forward to it!
I saw an interview with Bryan Cranston, where he was asked if there would be any continuation of the story line. His response: "well, you didn't see them put me in a body bag, did you?"Quote:
Originally Posted by bobz
^^ Weeellll.... Bryan Cranston is a bit of a joker, you know. Nah, WW is dead. And that goose is cooked in at least two other ways if he isn't dead.
Breaking Bad sequel movie "El Camino" comes out October 11 on Netflix.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZKqMVPlDg8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw7Aii1Fyq4
Hmmm. So what we know so far: Jesse's out there somewhere, Jesse's wanted as a person of interest, and it seems to be common knowledge (according to the news, somehow; I'm not sure how that would have been established, given that all witnesses other than Jesse got killed) that Jesse had been a prisoner at the compound rather than one of the gang. Should be good! And since we've got Pete, Badger's sure to be there too.
As I said above, about a year ago, Jesse doesn't seem to have a lot of good resources or options on the outside, and his legal prospects in custody aren't necessarily all that bleak, but hey, this story isn't likely to follow a straight line towards best outcomes.
I assume it's the same creative people behind Bad and Saul. Better be. But got me thinking about how it's too bad Jesse is the only one left to build this thing around. They killed everyone else off. He's not a very good actor and, to me, an unappealing character. So, hopefully they surrounded him with a great cast. Better yet,kept him running and hiding while the real action takes place. Like blowing up turtles carrying large severed heads on their backs.
fuckyesfuckyesfuuuuuckyessssssss
the fuck?Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
I’ll believe it when the storyline confirms as much. Until then, no bodybag means he can be thought of as both, dead or alive.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobz
The trailer shows Jesse listening to a report about the killings. 9 bodies were found, Jack had 7 of his men with him, Walt makes 9. Walt is dead.
Another trailer out today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUWyRde1TPA
Same here, the guy makes my skin crawl. My second least favorite part of the cast, after Badger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
That being said, I had to watch BB in it's entirety twice to actually take Bryan Cranston seriously. The first time, I couldn't shake the memory of him as the dad in Malcolm in the Middle, and couldn't take WW seriously as a character as a result. Second time through: stellar.
Well, to put it bluntly, Jesse was a punk and they made him a bitch.
Vince Gilligan confirms Walter White is dead.
Friday!
(I'll avoid spoilers for now, until more people have seen it.)
Saw it. It's good. Not awesome, but I enjoyed it. It's of the standard of any three regular Breaking Bad episodes, which is to say, a nice mix of tension, humor, arty shots and scenery, and some gonzo action, all-around engaging. If you're somehow expecting yet another amazing Breaking Bad finale (BB had two, if you include the third to last episode, which could have worked as a final episode), El Camino would probably disappoint, but hey, that's a very high bar.
It's flashback-heavy, so numerous old (dead) characters make appearances (kind of distracting how fat Plemmons got in the past decade). It's not essential (if it was, this stuff would have been covered in the original series), but go ahead and watch it and enjoy.
I'm looking forward to watching this. And yeah, Jesse Plemmons now looks like the bastard child of Matt Damon and Philip Seymour Hoffman at his worst.
I've never seen the show, but Fresh Air is going deep with it today for you fans:
https://www.npr.org/programs/fresh-air/
I'm not a huge TV watcher, but breaking bad was definitely worth watching. You would dig it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MakersTeleMark
Oh, and (in real life): RIP Robert Forster, who had a strong performance in El Camino.
Meth, TV's, and subscription services. 3 things I don't do. But thanks. Tried them all in some form, and it never suited my fancy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
Watched it last night and rate it a 7. Flashbacks were cool, reliving the original series. Good storyline about psycho Todd and how Jesse gats the cash to escape. Robert Forster's last role? He was great in Jackie Brown and calling the cops on Jesse over $1800 was pretty funny.
Watched last night as well. In the context of BB it is good, not great... without that context it would be terrible. In the end I hope Jesse meets up with the GSA.