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welp big thank you to jonathan S who convinced me i needed a boot in the sub 1000g weight class. ended up finding a deal on a pair of dnas!
the stoke is extreeemely high. i immediately bought the palau liners and hope to use the bikini ones for fitness and spring and the palau for adventuring. i have a set of race skis ill be using them on as well as a 1400g 94mm ski for testing some boundries (unfortunately dont have the adjustment on my 112s to see what pow would be like). alrdy looking for a 78-88mm ski for them (atomic 78 ul, blizzard zg 80ul, m-vert 88).
they fit quite tight but not uncomfortable which is surprising given my wide foot (getting some proper boot work done in a couple weeks). the boa presses the whole top of my foot and encourages heel lock and the walking ROM is nuts. all this is from carpet tests only.
ill report back my first timer's experience on this type of boot after a few days on em. Attachment 477900
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@Ktoor, what was your lightest boot before this?
@Altacoup,
I am the opposite of Jonathan, pretty new back country skier, but use mohair/nlyon Pomoca Green on my Backland 88, and Pink pure mohair on my Backland 100, skinned plenty of steep icy spring snow on them both, no big difference with my older mohair/nylon mix skins that I had before these.
I only tried full nylon very briefly.
I have never found either of the mix or pure mohair skins to be an issue for grip.
PSA to any European members, Black Diamond are selling both the Cirque 78 and Cirque 84 skis at less than half price and currently have all sizes in stock. I've just taken a punt on a pair of 84s and looking forward to seeing how they go.
Anyone have any time on these that can compare them to anything similar? I was holding out for a pair of Backland 85ULs but couldn't resist the deal on these.
I've done a couple runs on Cirque 84s, they are pretty average skis for the category but if you have your eye on the Atomic UL85 I can say that the Atomics are much better skis, my favorite ~1kg ski, definitely worth a few bucks extra over the BDQuote:
Originally Posted by random_watcher
Just got some Gara World cups with some Kreuzspitze bindings. Anyone have recommendations for boots to pair? Looking for things in the <800g range, but have a wider foot. The raceborg II interested me for that reason also really would love the PG black if I could fit my foot into that. Anyone have any other recommendations?
define "wider foot"?
As a benchmark, I have a 111mm width, 279mm long right foot and 108mm wide, 277mm long right foot, skiing raceborg 27.5 and PG Mtn 28.0 with no punches in the Raceborg (or obvisouly the PG). to be certain, they are both very tight race fits and I have to spend alot of time doing spot work on the liners of both to make my feet not fall asleep immediately, with the liners literally as thin as they go in most parts of the forefoot. So doable, but I would NOT recommend something nearly this tight unless you are coming from very low volume alpine boots, as there are days where my feet just are not up to staying out longer.
I did just break my raceborgs (doing decidedly not raceborg things), so instead of finding another Raceborg (which otherwise I love), I am shopping for a more relaxed "all day" boot. I would compare both boots to be analogous to a 98mm 27.5cm Nordica alpine boot overall snugness, if something like that is near you to try on. Hope these comments are helpful in some way.
If you (or anyone reading) ends up with Raceborgs, I have a ton of spare parts I am happy to pass along.
Thanks, this is useful, I am similar in length, but looking for a slightly more relaxed fit. I think my last is around 100mm on the left, 101 on the right. It seems like its doable, but I definitely noticed that the Alien was a bit tight when I tried it on. most important is me being able to stay out in these for a long time, trying to get big traverse days in
Again, as a benchmark, I couldn't ski either the Alien or F1 LT without a met-head punch. Just FWIW!Quote:
Originally Posted by sheel44
in my research, i thought the la spo had the widest last and would be best for wider foots but the stratos i tried on was quite narrow. the shop guy said the scarpas are the narrowest followed by la spos. can confirm as an alien rs was way too narrow for me. the dna wasnt on my radar because i thought it was narrow but surprisingly fit my foot (though will need some work for comfort). i hear the PGs have the most generous last and would love to try these on some day. i think my lasts are 101ish as well (maybe a tad more on the right).
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FYI skiuphill up in Canada got some 180 dynastar m-vert 88s in. I grabbed a pair. Not 100% confident till they show up. Will confirm when in hand. Pretty hopeful on em as 1200 ish gram spring and distance ski
oh man im really lookin at them in 172 but cant justify it this season. cant believe theyre 1150 grams at 88mm (at 172). too bad theyre not at the shop here in squam, i wanted to check em out in person next time i went.
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PG has a very unusual fit, wide ish with an open, accommodating instep but low vertically around the sides of the toebox. Aliens feel roomier to me except they are a little shorter. The regular Alien is a good option to consider for traverses, it has a full liner but still only weighs 800-900g.
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Originally Posted by doebedoe
Took a flyer on some cheap sticks because I really liked the shape of them (22m radius, long tip rocker, slight tail rocker), and the weight (1398 and 1402 respectively). I had skied a couple mini laps last Jan in British Columbia on them...but the conditions were good so not an entirely comprehensive test.
Looking forward to dropping 540g per foot with new ski/binding setup, even if it ain't quite "skinny"
Binding is Kuluar LT 12 plus leash, ski is 2022 Rossignol Alpineer 96 185cm.
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thats an impressive and fun weight imo for something that seems like you could ski it fairly enjoyably in the bc. the kuluar lt looks so sweet. think youre gonna have alot of fun on those.
what kinda boot(s)are you planning on pairing?
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Skorpius CRII at ~1300g. While it only saves me 50g on my modified first gen Hawx Ultra it walks sooo much betterQuote:
Originally Posted by ktoor
Great setup. Holy shit I am jealous, well done.Quote:
Originally Posted by doebedoe
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You convinced me. Luckily the new CRII has just enough additional instep room to make it work.Quote:
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Curious if anyones skied both the the Alp Tracks 85 and Trab Magico.2 and have any thoughts, mostly on which one is more damp on refrozen, edge hold, or any other thoughts. Thanks!
Haven't skied the Movement 85 but I have skied wider Alp Tracks. Movement and Trab are the dampest light skis, I didn't get along with the very old school Trab shape at all so I can't speak to it but several Skimo dads I know swear by the Magico.2Quote:
Originally Posted by dub_xion
Anyone near summit Colorado have a dynafit race binding jig I can borrow?
Haven't skied both. But the magico.2 is the Goldilocks ski for me for mountaineering. If I could have only one ski it would be it. Handles hard snow really well and is very confidence inspiring if you can ski a bit forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by dub_xion
I prefer my mistico for fast powder touring. The magic.2 gets a bit bogged down with too much soft snow.
ive been looking hard at the magico2 for mountaineering. was wondering if yalls opinion is that they work best with a beefier (ie ~1100g) boot than a race-ish boot? planning on having an adjustment plate to allow for both but dunno if thatll be usefulat all.
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I find a light, stiff boot is fine. I use the newer alien 1.0 and it's a great matchQuote:
Originally Posted by ktoor
Trab and movement don’t hold a candle to Aski though. If you’re after damp and very light, Aski is the kingQuote:
Originally Posted by Benneke10
‘Aski is a really unique construction, they use a thermoplastic composite versus a thermoset which is how all other skis are made. From what I’ve seen on Skimo, they could use some modern shaping. Climber Joe can you share more?Quote:
Originally Posted by Climber Joe
I have a pair of Aski Verglas. They are not as light as others in the size range, but in less than perfect snow they they are FAR better. They dampness is a big factor.
I hardly ever use them, though, because I pretty much don't go skiing when the snow is bad.
I would agree Aski is more damp, although I would consider them to be in a higher weight class, as they are ~150-200g heavier than Trab and Movement skis in equivalent sizes, apart from their race skis which are certainly special. I'd put the Askis in a category closer to Volkl V-Werks. I am interested in trying the Verglas though... maybe they will make disregard the small weight penalty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Climber Joe
Just found (somehow) a pair of lightly used vario heels, tore em down and rebuilt them. Interesting construction with conical spring washers and two ball detents for lateral release, but the bom is huge - upwards of 25 small parts. Are the gara titans of similar design? I've read online that the vario heels were heavier and had more elasticity, but have seen no proof of that anywhere.
Did you get that pair on eBay? I was thinking about it and noticed someone else grabbed em. Not sure about the internals as I've never taken them apart, but the Gara Titans are different. They are significantly (50g or so?) lighter and much less powerful. The Vario heels are one of a kind, the most elastic light binding ever made. Happy to trade you a pair of Gara heels if you want something lighter...Quote:
Originally Posted by Westcoaster
Also... I did a lot of spring and summer skiing last year and my Vario heels saw a lot of dirt and mud. I was thinking about rebuilding them but you are making it sounds pretty involved.
Yeah I did. They were dirty but not too abused. I did a terrible job of documenting the disassembly and reassembly, but here are some photos:Quote:
Originally Posted by Benneke10
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vFjSXf6ErN7MaHmM6
They're not that complicated, it's just a lot of individual parts. If you have circlip pliers, some loctite or vibratite and lithium grease it takes about an hour to do both. I threw everything in an ultrasonic cleaner and they went back together great. Since the detent balls are in the middle of the pedestal, and not exposed at the bottom of the pedestal like atk heels, I think they should be less susceptible to fouling from dirt and grime.
Relevant to this discussion, Ebay has the best option I have found for a Dow Molykote equivalent binding grease that is safe for plastic binding parts (i.e. Dynafit SSL 2.0 heels with a plastic body). G3 binding grease appears to be discontinued.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/280646126932
or search "DOW MOLYKOTE EM-30L Synthetic Grease, Electronics Audio"
Ah great advice. Was going to buy some atk grease for generic use.Quote:
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It anyone wants to convert me & has a 25.5 mondo lite boot I could purchase / beer / whatever.... I'm ur Huckleberry!!
Whatever happened to using 100% Teflon or silicone spray? Is that not safe for plastic?
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Some propellants in spray can products will degrade plastics.
Seeking some advice from the collective here.
About to mount up some new sticks with v1 trab varios but am having cold feet. I have a dropped 2nd metatarsal on my left foot that is easily inflamed on tours if I spend too much time in an elevated heel position on flatter terrain. I predominantly use the flat position while touring but with the majority of my riding being in the Wasatch it's not uncommon for me to hit a steeper skinner that requires the usage of a riser. In such cases I will quickly revert back to a flat position as the angle decreases.
Am I going to hate my life with a race style heel where the flat mode and a riser require bending down to rotate the heel piece? Has anyone had success with rotating vario heels with just their pole?
I have two sets of these bindings, and would be amazed if anyone was able to rotate them with a pole. Bending down and turning them isn’t that bad IMO. They are easier than some other race heels I’ve used (Plum 150, ATK Trofeo).Quote:
Originally Posted by beowulf122
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