beware the mud below aves twin peaks above mini puke hill. it’s “get off and walk” bad and it’s hard even to walk through. and I grew up someplace with a mud season.
otherwise besides the occasional icy bit the shoreline is nice from zoo to cc
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beware the mud below aves twin peaks above mini puke hill. it’s “get off and walk” bad and it’s hard even to walk through. and I grew up someplace with a mud season.
otherwise besides the occasional icy bit the shoreline is nice from zoo to cc
We need some fucking snow.
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The bulk of the new trails look relatively promising I think, probably not super interesting machine built-stuff but at least it will be novel and the old trails aren't exactly that stimulating...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
I was looking forward to the new option to climb to I-street as the historical trail is a nasty grind that I always do at the end of a ride and it crushes me. From the bottom of CC to the top of Twin Peaks is one of my go-to pain caves and I was hoping the new section would make it more tolerable. It happens to be cut through some really steep gravely sidehills and the trail surface is sandy and loose in spots for now. There are also some really tight steep switchbacks that I can barely clean on a long bike. It's definitely easier than the old trail but not happy times either, I think it will be a nice option to save some legs on longer rides but not something I'll ever be excited to ride.
I wonder how it will fare the first time we get some heavy rains (assuming that ever happens again), the first half is in terrain that doesn't have trees and shows signs of serious erosion, I wouldn't be surprised if sections get wiped out in a downpour.
Walked up the new downhill trail yesterday, interesting but looks to be just “fine”. The new climb looks heinous
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Dan, your dream may come true: https://www.ksl.com/article/50096096...-endanger-them
I love this comment:
"Rep. Merrill Nelson, R-Grantsville, who voted against the bill, wondered why the change couldn't apply to cars.
"It seems to me like one of your reasons for the exception here is that, if the intersection is clear ... why not just let them glide through? Why couldn't we apply that same exemption to vehicles?"
Because cars have blind spots and a mistake could be fatal to others walking across an intersection, you dumb motherfucker.
That bill has passed out of committee every year for the last 3-4 years and has never gotten a floor vote. I'm not holding my breath.
The article has been up for 3 hours and has 130 comments already. They're as predictable as you'd imagine, with frequent unrelated ranting about bikes in the the canyons and stupid liberals. This is my favorite:
"Cyclers on the roadways are a blight in the community. Car drivers have enough to watch out for (I am not talking about distractions like phones) on the road without having bicycles in the mix. Use the sidewalks. Widen sidewalks to include the bicycle lane and to observe pedestrian crosswalks."
Most drivers encounter yield signs so infrequently I'm pretty sure most of them have no idea what "treat a stop sign as a yield sign" actually means. This liberal hippie bullshit from *checks notes* Idaho will not stand! :D
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And yeah, you are absolutely correct about that too.
lol. there was some clown in cottonwood heights area who proposed letting cars drive through red lights at night as I recall.Quote:
Originally Posted by muted
the average UT driver seems only barely able to stay within the lines and remember which pedal does what, I don't think we need to be loosening the traffic laws for them...
Ah, didn't know this wasn't the first year.Quote:
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I used to think KSL comments were just the dumbest of the dumb, but in the past year or so I've finally, finally realized these dumbasses represent most of America.
I could show you a video that proves this is false. LolQuote:
Originally Posted by mall walker
I laughed at the cars running red lights thing when it was proposed because I understood the reason. There are a bunch of f'ed up lights in the south end of the valley that don't work right, especially at night with no other traffic. Seems easier than actually fixing the problem, right?
So fucking true. If you ever want to lose all hope, just read the comments....Quote:
Originally Posted by muted
Where's the nearest place to Murray to to do some fun riding? + if the crowds aren't too big, even if I have to go during off times. Just moved from DC and although I'm loving the mountains, I'm missing the natl mall for riding! Generally prefer anything off concrete or away from vehicles...nothing too advanced or technical.
TIA
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And the stop sign bill just passed the house. Fingers crossed for the Senate approval.
Are you talking about the gravelly paths that line the National Mall? We don't really have much that directly compares to that, most of the riding is either paved roads or real singletrack. There are some decent paved bike paths like the Jordan River Trail and the (short) Big Cottonwood Canyon Trail (which is at the mouth of the canyon). There is some great dirt road riding around Eagle Mtn and out in the West Desert but it can be muddy sometimes in the winter. Jeremy Ranch Rd is an excellent smooth-ish dirt road near Park City that has snow on it until spring. Riding upper Mill Creek Canyon in late spring after it melts but before it opens to cars on July 1 is an excellent car-free road ride, same with American Fork.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaaarrrp
Luckily most of our singletrack is less technical than the rocky-rooty stuff around DC. Corner Canyon would be the closest option to Murray but best to wait until Spring.
So, back to this dirt stuff it seems
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Took the dogs down to EM to see how things are looking and to give my taint a slight warm up for this weekend
Pretty sweet to warm up the legs and drink a parking lot beer after a somewhat frustrating ski season to date.Attachment 366042
More of a general regional beta question than a biking question:
I joined the dog owner club and get to learn all about watershed restrictions. From what I can tell everything in Draper west of Traverse is GTG for pooches? Ferguson, Deaf Smith, Oly/Heughs, and Neffs are all GTG? Do you have to deal with any of this north of City Creek?
From my City Creek experiences hunting and riding, you're good to go with dogs on the N/S sides of city creek, up until the water treatment plant, that being said, I don't think that is really an issue going out/up black mountain nor on the N side, you can basically drive an ATV to the City Creek ridge/grandview peak area from the Farmington Canyon 4x4 area, so I don't belive there are any restrictions on the N side either. There are not any watershed/no dogs signs on the S side of city creek on the ridge where I've been (almost to the base of black), and the N side/Lost Lad area, etc doesn't have any signage that I recall seeing last fall when riding there frequently. Lots of dog friends (myself included) have hiked Heughs with dogs, and Ferg/Neffs are both dog friendly as well. IIRC, the only strict regulations on "no dogs, watershed" N of LCC include LCC, BCC, and Parleys, and upper city creek.
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From what I can tell everything above BST from Rocky Mouth to Traverse Rd (Sawmill, Trail of the Eagle, Cherry Canyon, CC Road, Sivogah, Jacobs) is all strictly off-limits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phall
Yeah, I found those. The SLC watershed map didn't look like it had been updated in some time so I wanted to be sure there weren't any new additions. The Draper map doesn't address anything west of Traverse and just wanted to confirm that all restrictions end at Traverse. Sounds like they do.Quote:
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Rode the wood chips of Dimple dell
Fun ride and dry. Corner Canyon should be dry. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...997891a4c1.jpg
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anyone know what’s up with the closed signs on the shoreline around red butte? (north of red butte)
Building a massive new water tank up there. There are some sings explaining.
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Not even close. Anything above the Ghost Falls bridge is a snowy mess and bound to get worse this week. Rattler and points north are good.Quote:
Originally Posted by F#*k you cat
Those maps are pretty accurate. Essentially anything south of the new Peakview parking lot is fair game.Quote:
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Blaylock is a good one with the dogs @DTM, pretty sure that's all legal (other than the off leash part) and it's a shorter loop.
Blaylock definitely occurred to me. But, for the time being I'm going to stick with hikes and runs. The new pooch is 1 y.o. so basically a 50 lb puppy and his former owners never took him on trails. It's going to be a while before I'm comfortable riding with him.
I'd start at Hidden Valley park and head south in CC. There's a ton of offshoots that are pup friendly. It typically has quite a few trail users and other dog owners, if you're looking to get the puppy used to other trail users.Quote:
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That was pretty much what I was thinking. Start with some flat stuff to get his fitness and paw pads built up, then hopefully start doing the steeper stuff I prefer. He's great around other people so far, but goes nuts when we see another dog in the 'hood. Hopefully BST Doggieland will help out with that.Quote:
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Sucks that Sawmill and Cherry Canyon are off-limits, those are some of my go-to runs.
Lambert is also a great spot, I'm guessing it's probably gotta be dry or close to dry too. I've started both my dogs out there. Short loops, never far from the car, usually not very busy.
Yup. There's water in a couple spots too, which you'll learn is nice for them to cool off.Quote:
Originally Posted by dfinn
Sticking with the dog theme
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I've actually never ridden Lambert and never would have thought of it, thanks.
Where do you guys tend to ignore leash laws?
Most places but I guess it’s situational. As long as it’s not crowded I’ll let them off. My puppy who is mostly pretty good at listening has a special collar for biking with a retractable leash built in. Comes in handy at times.
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that looks pretty ideal for local trail runs where i keep the pup on leash until we're out of the parking lot or if coming up on a less friendly dog. beats carrying his leash in my hand. thx for the link.Quote:
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Can confirm that Lambert Park is 95% GTG except Rodeo trails. Spun almost 6 miles with the pooches. Hoss is beat Lola wanted to go another 6. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...5c206c7a0e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...bf305c6423.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...7dd36f75da.jpg
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That's a slick looking little unit, thanks.Quote:
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Eagle Mountain was quality yesterday, first time I ride out there with enough moisture in the dirt to provide grip! Bunch of new to me trails and some new stuff being built in a bunch of places, lots of bikes in the parking lot but relatively quiet on the trails, it would have been a perfect day if I didn't have to argue with some kooky dad teaching his kids how to shoot at a can of pringles with the new Fistful of $$ trail as a backstop. I guess the next person who came across his little show got a lot more annoyed than I did and called the cops on him for reckless behavior.
Friday and Saturday were different beasts.
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