Or try to find a metal Katana in 184. More accessible than OG Bodacious but no speed limit in every kind of terrain as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by gregorys
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Or try to find a metal Katana in 184. More accessible than OG Bodacious but no speed limit in every kind of terrain as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by gregorys
If it makes any difference they definitely don't ski shortQuote:
Originally Posted by adrenalated
Anyone else have tip dive in deep (24"
or so )powderr with Rustler 11s? I took mine out for the first time in anything deeper than 6" today and absolutely hated them. Major tip dive if I got the slightest bit forward. We're really bad on landings from smaller drops too. After about an hour I grabbed my Enforcer 100s that were much better even in the deep stuff.
I have them mounted on the line for a 336 BSL and am curious if a 1-2 cm move back would help or if I should just move on. For some reason me and this ski just aren't getting along. I'm a "husky" guy (aka a fat ass) at 6 ' 220 and might just need something more stiff. No idea.
On the 192s, I’m guessing?
And this might be part of the problem - they are 188s. I got a killer deal on them from a friend otherwise my fat ass would definitely have grabbed the 192.Quote:
Originally Posted by XavierD
The Enforcers are 193, but at 100 width they still handle themselves good enough in deeper snow. Maybe I am just expecting too much from a fairly light 188 ski.
You definitely need the 192.
I'd be willing to bet that the Enfocer's mounting point is considerably further back than
the Rustler as well.
I'm the same size and have skied the 188 a fair amount. Just need to ski it differently.
Not sure I've experienced crazy tip dive but it needs to be skied in a little more centered
stance.
It's more that there are so few customers interested in that ski. We'll definitely never make the 176 again. The number of peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by HAB
looking for those is probably less that 20 globally and that might be a stretch.
While the Bodacious is makes skiing crud at crazy high speeds pretty fun, I'd personally take a Rustler 11 over it
any day. It definitely doesn't have the top end speed as a ski with two sheets of metal but it does everything else quite
a bit better.
I did notice the manners improved when I centered or for in the back seat. At 42 I'm getting to the point where I like to ski the way I like to ski and I'm not changing for a ski. I might throw some demos on them and play with the mount point. I also might just give them to a nephew and try something else.Quote:
Originally Posted by wasatchback
Any comparison between the Anima and Rustler 11! I definitely charge for a fat guy and prefer a forward stance even in the deep stuff.
I could probably live with these if it weren't for the face plant they did on a couple of short drops.
I was going to bet you were on the 188’s and that was the problem. I’m 195’s but only 5’8” and have no tip dive issues in deep snow on the 188. That being said, on deep days I’m on a bigger, fatter ski (193 Shiros, C&D’s, or L138’s).Quote:
Originally Posted by cspringsposer
Life is too short not to have the perfect ski for the powder day. [emoji16]
Isn't that the truth! I had L120s and then gave them to my Godson a couple years ago. I am seriously thinking about Animas, E110s or C&D's. I'm getting older and fatter and am just not willing to fight with a ski.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
That's a lot of variety in the skis you listed and it sounds like you would prefer a more traditional mount point. That leaves out the Anima for sure which is -6 and seems like a soft and centre biased ski. C&D for deeper pow bias or Billygoat for more versatility. Spurs too if you're thinking C&D but at your weight/height the ON3P may be better suited.Quote:
Originally Posted by cspringsposer
I had tip dive and other issues with my 188s, I upgraded to the 192s and don’t have tip dive anymore and now love the ski. They are stiffer, wider, etc. I’m not chubby but I am 6’ 2” if that helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by cspringsposer
I'm just big boned....under the fat.Quote:
Originally Posted by muted
Thanks. The skis were great in 6", but are probably just too small for a big boned guy like myself in deep stuff. I have to say I was really surprised how badly these dove. Will have to try the 192s if I get a chance.
I sure as shit hope it is a sizing issue for you as I am 6'4" and 210 lbs and have a brand new pair of 192s with sth 16s ready for their maiden voyage... I was looking to go with 116 Woodsman, but because of the great reviews from this board I went with Rustler 11s... I do own 193 Gunsmokes and love them so hoping the same for the 11s...
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I'm about to mount some Rustler 11's. Thinking -1 is where I want to be. Anybody played around with moving points?
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What length? On anything shorter than 192 I wouldn’t go back. The mounting point on R11 is very dialed for how it skis, IMO. No need for experiments. If you picked up the right size, you don’t have to fear tip dive.Quote:
Originally Posted by I've seen black diamonds!
This ski has to be rather upsized if you’re going to charge on it.
I have 188's. I'm 5'10" 175. Have 185 Cochises for charging. Protests for deep. I just happen to like more traditional mounts.
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Funny people are talking going back? Or funny to me as I don’t like far back mounts.
Just sold some 181cm Lib Wreckreates (sorry Mt Baker). Used the $ to get some Rustler 11s (last year’s green ones) in a 180cm.
Going to go +1.5 to + 2 to get them to -6 on the ski. I think rec is -8?
Mounting in a few days.
I’ve skied Faction Candides at -5, Opus at -2.5, Libs at -5, Rens at-5, Bibbys at -5, InThaynes at -5.5, Nomads at -5.5.....
Never had tip dive on any in the deep. I ski pretty centered.
Interested on hearing from Rustler 11 owners who have gone forward +1 or +2?
I’m 5’7”, 165 lbs.
5'8" and 170, I ski the 188 @ +1 and the 180 on the recommended line.Quote:
Originally Posted by kc_7777
Ski the 192s at +2. Makes them more playful and I think you will like them there considering you history with other skis.
Personally I wish I had mine at recommended now, feel a bit off balanced at times when skiing hard.
I had hole conflict at recommended, and the um mounter put them at -1.
I'm moving them to +1. Will report back after skiing...
Skiing 188s at 6'190#. As some (roqer and others) have noted, size up. The 188s almost feel small for me!
What is the experienced mount point on the new (19/20) Rustler 10 in a 188? Factory is +1 I believe but reading several different opinions. Also, this has metal under foot so are do it your-selfer's tapping when mounting or will drilling alone do it?
Regarding the rustler 11: After owning a pair of 188s for half a season, I don't consider them a dedicated powder ski. I have original spurs and spur-ed bodacious from a few years ago and they both ski powder better with their tip design. The R11s are definitely more fun for chopped up powder, steep trees, powder filled chutes and other tighter terrain. I definitely get tip dive on deep untracked powder if I don't stay centered. For me, I have to concentrate a bit more in deep powder as the tips don't stay up as well as my other powder skis. But they are just so much fun all over the mountain, I find myself wanting to ski them as much as possible. I didn't try the 192 before buying. Would like to get on the longer length at some point for comparison.
For my day to day 2-ski quiver for LCC, I am very happy with R11 and original cochise. I do like to get on my spurs for the first half of really deep days, though. Those ski untracked deep powder so well.
Just mounted them on the line.
^^ I did as well. Seems like most people say it has a big sweet spot. And, comparing to some of my other Same size skis, the line is pretty far back (188).
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Originally Posted by I've seen black diamonds!
Ya I got mine as a do everything ski for after-pow or packed pow days at Whistler (where is a pain to change skis 1/2 through a day).Quote:
Originally Posted by cbgarrett
Plus I have Candide 5.0 (152-122-140) for the deep days.
Will try my Rustler 11s this weekend and report back. Went +1.8cm. haha
I think Leo skis his 188 R11s at +3 from recommended. I reached out to him to confirm. He's not a big dude by any means.
The mounting points on Rustler are definitely different than the Cochise/Bodacious/Bonafide, quite a bit farther forward.
I ski the 192s on the line and have no issues. Never experienced tip dive. I probably would on the 188 at my size but have only skied it a few times and never on a deep day.
I went 1.5 or 2cm forward on my 188 R11s and have been really happy with them there. I mostly ski OG Spurs on really deep days but have never noticed any tip dive issues on the R11s at that mount point (5'6", 185). I'd like to ski the 192s for a comparison.
Anyone experience top sheet delam / separation at the tail (where tail TPU meets top sheet)? Less than five days; serious bummer. I tried wood glue and and a clamp but that didn’t work with tail vibration.
I will say the steeper the terrain gets the better the 10s perform.
Wood glue isn't going to cut it. [At all. I doubt it will adhere to any of the materials in a ski, except for perhaps the wood core, but since it's awash in epoxy too, probably not even there.]Quote:
Originally Posted by esseff
Epoxy is what you need.
New 2019 Rustler 11s....180cm mounted @ +1.8cm with Pivots. Me 5’7”, 165lbs.
Will go well with my green Dalbello Kryptons.
Gonna try them Sat.
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Warranty is what I need but sending them back is not my idea of slightly convenient. I’ll see if I can find the rep for Bay Area. If not, I’ll just epoxy.
Any suggestion on type of epoxy?
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Originally Posted by gregorys
G Flex 650.Quote:
Originally Posted by esseff
Hi guys, i`m a R11 192 owner, Alps skier, 184cm for 88kg.
This year i moved to Dal Bello Lupo HD from Dobbermann 150 and, considering i use A LOT foot to ski i`m feeling a little bit less strong on my Rustler!
It`s like now the horses are for giving me less than the past with race boots.
Probably i`m one year older and weaker legs than past year :)), but i was wondering if could be an idea to move +2 the bindings (Jester 16), to have my Rustler more playful.
What do you think?
How many days do you have on your R11s?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamauchi
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More or less 20/25.Quote:
Originally Posted by skibrd
In open space i ride very well with it, i feel difficulties in wood, tight couloir, and terrain with moguls/jump/cliff etc
I can’t imagine anything skis well when you switch from a plug boot to a cabrio boot. Totally different platforms.
I recognized it =)Quote:
Originally Posted by XavierD
Remounted at +1 after not liking. Now they are perfect. More control, just as floaty. Rad ski - both playful and damp.Quote:
Originally Posted by meter-man
(I will probably bump up to 192 when the opportunity presents.)