If only there was something we could do...

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Originally Posted by Bobby Stainless

It's pretty apparent most of you don't know the first thing about gun laws or gun ownership.

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Oh fuck off. Plenty of us gun owners who know the laws and want them changed. I know that you’ve lied on the federal forms you claim to have filled out for your legal guns. Either that or the photos of your past grow ops and posts about weed smoking were all lies. It’s one or the other. Smoking the herb makes you a prohibited person and not allowed to own a gun.

How about we start there? Random drug tests and if you fail you can’t purchase and all your guns are confiscated. No need to change the laws and we’d get a lot of guns off the streets. If we can test welfare recipients we can test those buying guns.

All those pot heads shooting up the place after dumping their dirty pot needles in the park... c'mon dude.

Legalize it. Federally.

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WASHINGTON — Senate Republicans on Thursday blocked action on a bill aimed at strengthening the federal government’s efforts to combat domestic terrorism, rejecting a measure put forward by Democrats in the wake of a racist massacre in which a gunman motivated by white supremacist ideology killed 10 Black people in a Buffalo supermarket.

Democratic leaders had framed the procedural vote as the best vehicle for quick action on gun violence prevention measures in the wake of the elementary school shooting this week in Uvalde, Texas, where an 18-year-old gunman killed 19 children and two teachers.

The bill that fell short on Thursday, known as the Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act, would establish three new offices — one each in the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Justice Department and the Department of Homeland Security — to monitor, investigate and prosecute domestic terrorism. It would require biannual reports assessing the domestic terrorism threat posed by white supremacists, with a particular focus on combating “white supremacist and neo-Nazi infiltration of the uniformed services.”

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If we can't even pass this,

Then we're fucked.

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Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

Not really tracking what the point of this discussion that you and Conundrum are having. Is the idea that we do more with the 5% or 10% of weapons classified as assault style weapons with the hopes that this reduces some of the mass shooting events? Additionally, is the point you two are making that this represents a smaller number of weapons to deal with so it may be feasible?

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Banning semi automatics or "assault weapons" is a bridge to far. Or at least that's been the case for the last 18 years.

There is a chance that you could reclassify them. Or not. Im stupid.

This thread has served its purpose. I'm confident absolutely nothing will be done, and we can just start the stopwatch to see how long it takes for the next one to happen....

/Thread.

How do I lock a thread I started? Or can we not do that anymore?

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Originally Posted by Buzzworthy

But the fact you think this has to do with trump and his “all powerful” hand over people…he didn’t and does not have this power. But people talk as if he does.

Presidents are just figure heads.
trump simply had a big fuggin mouth, that’s all. The power he supposedly has is from people fluffing him up. If people would just stop the idolization he’d be a past headline.

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You misunderstand me. This isn't about Trump being all-powerful, it's about people being hopelessly tribal. People can accept an idea if it originates from their side that they would dismiss with prejudice if it originated from the other side.

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Originally Posted by Flounder

Oh fuck off. Plenty of us gun owners who know the laws and want them changed. I know that you’ve lied on the federal forms you claim to have filled out for your legal guns. Either that or the photos of your past grow ops and posts about weed smoking were all lies. It’s one or the other. Smoking the herb makes you a prohibited person and not allowed to own a gun.

How about we start there? Random drug tests and if you fail you can’t purchase and all your guns are confiscated. No need to change the laws and we’d get a lot of guns off the streets. If we can test welfare recipients we can test those buying guns.

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I grew in legal states and didn't own any firearms at the time. There are posts here to back that up. That was also 6-7 years ago.

I enjoy cannabis and I am a lawful user. The form says "unlawful user". Davidson County allows up to a half ounce on your person. Prosecution is up to the officer.

You and Dunfee are the only ones that seem to care. Which is odd. No one seems to mind people can be raging alcoholics and buy firearms.

We need to make sure these potheads don't kill everyone. In your quest to try and shame me, don't come off looking like a dumbass.

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Originally Posted by Summit

All those pot heads shooting up the place after dumping their dirty pot needles in the park... c'mon dude.

Legalize it. Federally.

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Oh I agree. I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy of our self proclaimed gun law expert. He pontificates about all the paperwork he fraudulently filled out and uses it as an excuse to as to why we don’t need to do anything more with regards to gun laws.

Media now saying as cops were holding back parents other cops were going in and getting their own kids out.



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Originally Posted by Dantheman

You misunderstand me. This isn't about Trump being all-powerful, it's about people being hopelessly tribal. People can accept an idea if it originates from their side that they would dismiss with prejudice if it originated from the other side.

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Right. That's the point people are making with how no one on the right batted an eye at the bump stock legislation but would've lost their minds if Biden or Obama did it.

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Originally Posted by Flounder

Oh I agree. I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy of our self proclaimed gun law expert. He pontificates about all the paperwork he fraudulently filled out and uses it as an excuse to as to why we don’t need to do anything more with regards to gun laws.

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You're a fucking clown dude.

Seriously. I bet you told on folks back in high school too.

It's really hard to be as much of a douche bag as you. Dunfee is close.

"Oh... Im cool bro. I just go both ways because Im a fucking little bitch"

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Originally Posted by Flounder

Oh I agree. I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy of our self proclaimed gun law expert. He pontificates about all the paperwork he fraudulently filled out and uses it as an excuse to as to why we don’t need to do anything more with regards to gun laws.

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the paperwork that specifically says “the use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal purposes in the state where you reside”. The fed hardon for pot is dumb, but it’s still there.

I mean, also Bobby doesn't really have much skin in the game here, as I imagine his kids are in private schools.

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Originally Posted by dunfree

the paperwork that specifically says “the use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal purposes in the state where you reside”. The fed hardon for pot is dumb, but it’s still there.

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Well the ATF has access to my house whenever they want.

True colors are showing for some of you. What a bunch of narcs.

Paperwork says unlawful user. I've filled it out multiple times.

I guess Im the on on trial for smoking weed. Strong work guys. You should see a decline in school shootings in no time.

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Originally Posted by schuss

I mean, also Bobby doesn't really have much skin in the game here, as I imagine his kids are in private schools.

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Yep. I take education seriously. Apparently some parents here did not.

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Originally Posted by Bobby Stainless

3% of firearms are "assault weapons". Get off your soapbox.

You aren't even focused on the correct firearm to change gun deaths in any meaningful way. Your lack of knowledge on the subject is dreadful.

It's pretty apparent most of you don't know the first thing about gun laws or gun ownership.

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I’m talking all firearms here and since I started posting in this thread. The majority of the public want restrictions on all firearm sales. I want a federal, state, and local registry with insurance requirements for ALL firearms.

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Originally Posted by Bobby Stainless

Yep. I take education seriously. Apparently some parents here did not.

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We're not all born rich Bobby, that's a pretty shitty attitude, especially given the quality of some districts.

Bobby, still waiting on a response. I like you but be careful in these debates telling people that they don’t know things and then post inaccuracies.

You’ve got to be all in on this type of stuff.

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Originally Posted by schuss

We're not all born rich Bobby, that's a pretty shitty attitude, especially given the quality of some districts.

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It's in response to the dumbass cannabis comments.

It takes a gutless motherfucker to accuse someone of breaking the law while simultaneously being "cool" with it.

"Im cool with legalization, but not if it means Bobby Stainless!"

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Originally Posted by skiJ

wow.
not hard to believe...

more awesomeness.

' is it worth trying!? '

for the kids -
The kids deserve better. tj

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https://twitter.com/edlavacnn/status...GDvMAFVdkBccRw

We should send all our guns to Ukraine.


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If this thread is any indication:
0) There's an overwhelming number of posteurs who favor background checks at a minimum as well as restrictions on automatic or semiautomatic weapons.
1) There's a few posteurs whose position is to obfuscate, distract, misrepresent and prance.

Again, hopefully some significant number of you have made contributions to gun control PACs and written your representatives.

Anyone who hasn't, please use some of your energy to carry that out.

Vote.

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Originally Posted by Bobby Stainless

It's in response to the dumbass cannabis comments.

It takes a gutless motherfucker to accuse someone of breaking the law while simultaneously being "cool" with it.

"Im cool with legalization, but not if it means Bobby Stainless!"

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LMAO. Delusional.

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Originally Posted by Conundrum

Bobby, still waiting on a response. I like you but be careful in these debates telling people that they don’t know things and then post inaccuracies.

You’ve got to be all in on this type of stuff.

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Don't hold your breath.
Let's have a beer this summer, we'll be rolling through.

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Originally Posted by Cono Este

We should send all our guns to Ukraine.


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Seems like this is the moment all the civilians with body plates have been training for and those guns could use chaperons.

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Originally Posted by Buster Highmen

Don't hold your breath.
Let's have a beer this summer, we'll be rolling through.

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Looking forward to it.

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Originally Posted by mcphee

LMAO. Delusional.

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All good with alcohol I'm sure though.

All good if Bobby is drinking a handle of Jack and twirling pistols on his finger.

Yall are something else.

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Originally Posted by Bobby Stainless

It's in response to the dumbass cannabis comments.

It takes a gutless motherfucker to accuse someone of breaking the law while simultaneously being "cool" with it.

"Im cool with legalization, but not if it means Bobby Stainless!"

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I think the point being made is the form you filled out is more or less useless since you were still able to get assault weapons even though you technically shouldn't be able to own them. So the solution of classifying more weapons as assault weapons might not be very effective.

I honestly don't think it's JUST the "lone gunman" crazy person with a WMD that we need to protect schools from. There will eventually be a group of fucked up kids/adults who decides to do similar. How many resource officers and locked doors would it take to neutralize say FIVE maniacs with body armor and ARs??

We've got to be open to that threat as well when deciding on what people should be allowed to own/purchase easily..

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Originally Posted by SumJongGuy

I honestly don't think it's JUST the "lone gunman" crazy person with a WMD that we need to protect schools from. There will eventually be a group of fucked up kids/adults who decides to do similar. How many resource officers and locked doors would it take to neutralize say FIVE maniacs with body armor and ARs??

We've got to be open to that threat as well when deciding on what people should be allowed to own/purchase easily..

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Agreed. Anyone associated with the Jan 6 insurrection should also have a lifetime ban on owning firearms....as another example. Could easily extend to other unlawful acts.

Since we're on the topic of drugs, it seems pretty clear that the war on drugs has failed. So now we just need to remind the right that regulations on guns would be a new and effective way for them to lock up "dangerous minorities" just like good ol' Ronnie Ray-gun did. Everyone wins!

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Originally Posted by Bobby Stainless

All good with alcohol I'm sure though.

All good if Bobby is drinking a handle of Jack and twirling pistols on his finger.

Yall are something else.

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Don’t put words in my mouth. I much prefer weed over alcohol. At issue is you on your soapbox of personal responsibility yet you claimed to have lied on federal forms about weed use and have also bragged about morning dabs before taking your kids to school and driving on a racetrack. Fuck, you’re dense.

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Originally Posted by mcphee

Don’t put words in my mouth. I much prefer weed over alcohol. At issue is you on your soapbox of personal responsibility yet you claimed to have lied on federal forms about weed use and have also bragged about morning dabs before taking your kids to school and driving on a racetrack. Fuck, you’re dense.

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Says unlawful user... Im not an unlawful user.

It's fairly pathetic the go to is my cannabis use, when everyone here knows cannabis is pretty much harmless. Is this really the argument you guys have? This is how you are best going to keep another mass shooting from happening?

https://imgv2-1-f.scribdassets.com/i...1589437147?v=1

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Originally Posted by Bobby Stainless

All good if Bobby is drinking a handle of Jack and twirling pistols on his finger.

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Where I live that would be illegal, and it appears it is so in Tennessee too, but I’m not a firearms law expert.

fed legalization would be great, it’d stop people getting harassed on federal lands

guess Bobby hasn’t looked at the 2020 version of the form, typical Bobby bullshitter

This has probably already been posted.

https://twitter.com/ihatemytv/status...kdtNLsp1w&s=19

Kind of a tagent since mass shootings occur everywhere in the US.

A maddeningly apolitical ex girlfriend of mine just rode across the country via the southern tier. In her podcast she said one of the things that astonished her were the sheer numbers of police and law enforcement the entire way. Not just along the border.

Protectors? Or enforcers?

One thing great about most of Iowa is we have underfunded the highway patrol for years. It seems much safer now from point a to point b since they are completely overwhelmed compare to say 30 years ago when they were thick like fog and would come for you like a crazed whitetail deer. The governor even sends them to Texas sometimes to get them a driving around vacation. Win win.

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Originally Posted by dunfree

Where I live that would be illegal, and it appears it is so in Tennessee too, but I’m not a firearms law expert.

fed legalization would be great, it’d stop people getting harassed on federal lands

guess Bobby hasn’t looked at the 2020 version of the form, typical Bobby bullshitter

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I posted the NICS form for you.

Perhaps you stop obsessing over my choice of intoxicant and actually do something to further your cause?

Nah. That would mean you actually have conviction for all your bullshit.

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Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

Right. That's the point people are making with how no one on the right batted an eye at the bump stock legislation but would've lost their minds if Biden or Obama did it.

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And it has nothing to do with the last name of the president. It’s a left vs right dealio is my point.

Why Republican senators won't budge on gun control
Short answer - their constituents will vote them out of office if they do (or that's their fear)
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/26/u...n-control.html

How does this happen when a huge majority in the country support things like HR8 (universal registration)?

Because a small portion of the population (rural states) elects more than half of the senate, most all of whom are GOP. Rural voters are the ones that mightily resist any gun control measures.

So until Democrats can bring policies/programs/candidates that appeal to rural voters, don't expect anything to happen on the gun control front.