If only there was something we could do...

respectfully, I will contest the ' 90% have driven intoxicated' claim - I know this is tgr and all, but, yeah - no. I believe you see a skewed view of society in the Emergency Department. hang in ; ski season is coming... skiJ

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Complete apples to oranges comparison but so be it:

11-12k deaths per year secondary to drunk driving.

Can we ban alcohol?

I’m completely serious. Thirty years in the ER and it’s a huge part of our every day routine. Drunk after drunk. Alcohol related violence, deaths, illness, dysfunction. I’d argue the net negative effects on society probably eclipse gun issues. Nobody gives a fuck.

People like their booze as much or more than their guns. And it’s bipartisan.


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Sorry, man, but this is an apples to alien abduction comparison.

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Sure. But if this is an either / or situation (which it obviously is not), I'd rather put effort into regulating the thing that is designed to kill people rather than the thing that incidentally kills people.

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Agreed. Just find comparisons interesting.


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Originally Posted by Trackhead

Complete apples to oranges comparison but so be it:

11-12k deaths per year secondary to drunk driving.

Can we ban alcohol?

I’m completely serious. Thirty years in the ER and it’s a huge part of our every day routine. Drunk after drunk. Alcohol related violence, deaths, illness, dysfunction. I’d argue the net negative effects on society probably eclipse gun issues. Nobody gives a fuck.

People like their booze as much or more than their guns. And it’s bipartisan.


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My best friend drank herself to death.

Dated a guy who was an alcoholic eye surgeon. He used to take beta blockers to keep his hands steady. Alcohol totally fucked up his life and all he worked for.

A HS friend was drunk at a party and decided he could do a backflip off the railing of the deck. Turns out he couldn't. Now he's a quadriplegic.

Got lots more stories if anyone wants to hear them.

Alcohol is bad m"kay.....

Lots of surgeon types take beta blockers. I just learned about this but it’s been a thing for a long time. Lots of actors take em too. Who knew. Maybe they’d work on potential shooters and calm them the fuck down as well

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Lots of surgeon types take beta blockers. I just learned about this but it’s been a thing for a long time. Lots of actors take em too. Who knew. Maybe they’d work on potential shooters and calm them the fuck down as well

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Propranolol (beta blocker) would have been beneficial for the would be Trump assassin.


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Lots of surgeon types take beta blockers. I just learned about this but it’s been a thing for a long time. Lots of actors take em too. Who knew. Maybe they’d work on potential shooters and calm them the fuck down as well

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He took them because he was a drunk.