Drink the Depression Away Cleveland Browns Support Group

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Originally Posted by F#*k you cat

Nick freaking Chubb. 130 rushing yards. Finally a hard faught win by running the ball. Baker is definitely off. 2 picks and a 53 QB rating. Heal up baker cuz the season is about to get real. 8 and 8 won't get you anywhere.

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Right? I would have liked to seen him rested yesterday given the opponent, Chubb getting back and the shitty rainy weather.

They are a better team with him in there, no doubt, but that's full-strength Baker, not torn labrum, broken shoulder, foot issue, bone bruised knee-Baker.

I didn't like seeing that he walked off the field and declined to speak to the media. He had a rough day, sure, and he's clearly beat to shit. Hopefully it had more to do with him wanting to get to the trainers' room and not pouting cause some of the crowd was booing after his second pick (which was tipped, but hey).

Honestly, I don't know what you do. Keep playing him if he says he's good to go and risk taking the hit that does him in for the year (or longer), or do you hope Kareem Hunt gets back this week and roll with the O-line and run game with Keenum handing the ball off until Baker can get somewhat healthy and hope that's enough to get you into the postseason?

What I do know is that it's really weird feeling like its a Browns Therapy Monday after a win. It wasn't that long ago that 6 wins total would be an improvement for this franchise.

Interesting press conference from Baker yesterday, and I have to admit, thinking about him walking straight off the field immediately after taking a knee to end the game without congratulating his teammates, or shaking hands with the other team after a WIN is bizarre, but it speaks to how pissed he was at himself.

Got a nice dig on the fans booing him too saying he doesn't care as they're probably the same ones screaming when they're on offense.

Emily also stepped in it too inadvertently calling out everyone on the team as not being as tough as Baker by retwattering some stuff.

Makes you wonder how drama-filled things are at the stadium when its just her and Baker.

We've hit a rough patch. I may come hang out with y'all if the ship doesn't get righted soon. The gales of November have come to Orchard Park.

They just blew from Cleveland in the west is all.

Sorry bout that.

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Originally Posted by Timberridge

We've hit a rough patch. I may come hang out with y'all if the ship doesn't get righted soon. The gales of November have come to Orchard Park.

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The bar is open, and we are one Baltimore game next week away from Happy Hour.

And one two weeks after that from $1 shot night.

Hope we don’t see ya around, but you are always welcome.

Killing time before checking out for the holiday and I’m just baffled by the fans calling in suggesting we go after some turd QB (Trubisky) or hold out and draft one next year.

Did you people not get enough of QB roulette the past 20 years!?! We have a serviceable QB who is beat to shit on a team that is run first run often. WTF do you want?

Yeah, TR, I don’t think we’ll be seeing our brothers uplake in here on any kind of extended stretch. Grab your complementary shot of Jäger at the door and we’ll see you in the postseason.

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Originally Posted by BmillsSkier

Killing time before checking out for the holiday and I’m just baffled by the fans calling in suggesting we go after some turd QB (Trubisky) or hold out and draft one next year.

Did you people not get enough of QB roulette the past 20 years!?! We have a serviceable QB who is beat to shit on a team that is run first run often. WTF do you want?

Yeah, TR, I don’t think we’ll be seeing our brothers uplake in here on any kind of extended stretch. Grab your complementary shot of Jäger at the door and we’ll see you in the postseason.

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I think Mayfield is the answer. Best case the troubles this year make his long term contract cheaper. Worst case somehow the fans, media and injuries break him or drive him out. I'd happily pay Mayfield 35 mil a year to be a top 15 QB in the league. That 35 mil is gonna look pretty cheap 5 years from now with escalation. And again, the dude just keeps winning games. He executes the gameplan (when healthy.)

He's beat to shit right now. He probably shouldn't be playing. But we'll trot him out at B'More and hope for lightning in a bottle. Who knows, maybe we'll get it.

There are a ton of people out there who hate the dude and just can't wait to see him fail. It's kind of amazing. I really don't understand it, but I guess that's the way it is.

Well, it's official...

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Wait, hold up, who's available now?

EWG, yeah, I have no clue what is up with the Baker hate lately. Go home fans, you're drunk.

Johnny Manziels ex-wife. Looks like she’s looking for a good time. Smart move. She needs to capitalize on that asset before it depreciates any further.


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Is 1pm too early to pour an old fashioned. Should I just root for detroit?

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Originally Posted by lifelinksplit

Is 1pm too early to pour an old fashioned. Should I just root for detroit?

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Is 1pm too early? Are you new here?

Touche. I came to my senses and just swigged from the bottle of wild Turkey after shotgunning a Miller lite.

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Originally Posted by EWG

I'd happily pay Mayfield 35 mil a year to be a top 15 QB in the league.

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The argument from most is that Baker isn't a top 15 QB. His QBR rankings since he entered the league:

2018: 23rd
2019: 19th
2020: 10th
2021: 27th

There may be many reasons for this quality, or lack thereof, in performance but the reality is that you can pay someone far less than $35M to get the same results and paying him that much kills their cap and will hurt other areas of the team. Most people contribute his success in 2020 to having an elite/very good offence around him. Baker is a game manager, that is all he is, with a good commercial appeal (not sure why, I'm out of the loop on that and don't see his commercials in Canada) who needs all other aspects of the team to be at elite, or at least very good, levels of performance for him to have any chance at 'success'.

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Originally Posted by shafty85

The argument from most is that Baker isn't a top 15 QB. His QBR rankings since he entered the league:

2018: 23rd
2019: 19th
2020: 10th
2021: 27th

There may be many reasons for this quality, or lack thereof, in performance but the reality is that you can pay someone far less than $35M to get the same results and paying him that much kills their cap and will hurt other areas of the team. Most people contribute his success in 2020 to having an elite/very good offence around him. Baker is a game manager, that is all he is, with a good commercial appeal (not sure why, I'm out of the loop on that and don't see his commercials in Canada) who needs all other aspects of the team to be at elite, or at least very good, levels of performance for him to have any chance at 'success'.

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All this and more. Baker habitually abandons the pocket prematurely and just isn't very accurate. He's decent when play action is going, but is a below average pocket passer. He's playing behind a great line with a great back yet he's regressing. Is he any better than Goff, who the Rams just paid to get rid of? He's got more swagger than Goff, but that's about it. Goff throws a better ball.

I think they get a deal done, but with minimal guaranteed money. I don't see anyone offering him much guaranteed money. It's not for good for the Browns that he's having a bad year, but it might help them avoid getting locked into a a big deal with a sub par QB.

This game is bizarre.

I’m already up to 10 “oh, for fucks sake”s.

I think I understand what all the drinking is about now.

Before / after bar cart photos from our resident Browns fans would help.

I started at the Christkindl Markt drinking Glühwein and other hot toddies tonight and have moved to draining what got opened over thanksgiving

Will report back.

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Originally Posted by yeahman

I think I understand what all the drinking is about now.

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Yessir. And this in a game with 4 INTs.

Browns D gets four fucking INTs and what does the offense do besides sticking their thumbs up their asses?

Tomorrow is going to be an ugly morning.

Hell of a 2 minute drive by Baker

Browns Ravens twitter is both hilarious and ���� �� right now.

I’m drinking in solidarity Browns fans. Man that game was brutal.


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Very very on brand. This is why this fucking thread exists.

I can’t believe I let my dad buy my son a Brown’s jersey. Fucking child abuse.

Fuck.

At least you're going into a recovery weekend.

It’s funny that they have to play the Ravens back to back

Oh shit, I forgot about that one. Blame Goodell.


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On the bright side, only 2.5 months 'till the Guardians report to Goodyear Ballpark.

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Originally Posted by hatchgreenchile

This game is bizarre.

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Most Ravens games are.

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Originally Posted by Timberridge

On the bright side, only 2.5 months 'till the Guardians report to Goodyear Ballpark.

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Best news I’ve heard all day.

Fear not. Baker's QBR of 45 actually improved his season rating...

This season will wind up being a blessing when the Browns don't doom themselves to long-term below-mediocrity by signing a QB who can't win to a big contract ala the Vikings with Cousins.

Vikings. Glad I quit drinking


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Didn’t see many Browns receivers open very often

Oddly Baker has almost identical stats to Brees when Brees was 26. Which was also the year Brees tore his labrum. Not sure what to make of that.

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Originally Posted by EWG

Oddly Baker has almost identical stats to Brees when Brees was 26. Which was also the year Brees tore his labrum. Not sure what to make of that.

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This brings up the question I've heard asked all day: Why is Baker even playing?

If you believe in him, why are you risking long-term damage to him? To support a lower contract offer? Really?

Because he says he's tough and wants to play? We all have seen that, its beyond question.

Because you believe we have a better shot at winning with a 60% baker than a 100% Case Keenum? Then why in the hell are you paying Keenum $9MM?

Don't get me wrong, I think Baker is the man, it's just not his year and it all goes back to week 2 when he tore that labrum. I also know that given where they are and how crazy this year is and how close some of these games have been (read: winnable) that its hard not to roll with him in a playoff push. I just don't get it is all.

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Originally Posted by EWG

Oddly Baker has almost identical stats to Brees when Brees was 26. Which was also the year Brees tore his labrum. Not sure what to make of that.

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You know how I know you're a Browns fan? Hope and hangovers.

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Originally Posted by Conundrum

You know how I know you're a Browns fan? Hope and hangovers.

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This made me laugh. And is true.