This one is already available, 1.5 / 5Quote:
Originally Posted by timmaio
https://www.sport-conrad.com/en/prod...k/candy-5.html
Length adjustment of 50mm is a nice touch for growing up kids.
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This one is already available, 1.5 / 5Quote:
Originally Posted by timmaio
https://www.sport-conrad.com/en/prod...k/candy-5.html
Length adjustment of 50mm is a nice touch for growing up kids.
Yes it’s crazy, I wonder who attacked them ...Quote:
Originally Posted by thejongiest
That is awesome! I got my 10 year old the Crest 8 this season, it has been great for her. Plus, I figure, I won’t have to buy her new AT bindings ever..Quote:
Originally Posted by stuntmanbo
But for smaller kids, it was still on the higher side, and the price on this one is great too.
The inclusion of the extra long adjustment plate I think would not be for growing kids so much (I think if they grow 5 boot sizes, you also need new skis...) but more for different kids, like resale or rental/club use.
How does the listed 50mm riser work? The heel looks just like the Crest heel, but no flaps.
Good question :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tjaardbreeuwer
I dont know of any other company with that pattern. Anyone with some time want to figure out who had patented it? I want to steer clear of such litigious assholes.
Dynafit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Westcoaster
Impeding progress in tech bindings since 1990...Quote:
Originally Posted by Melee
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also about the same time dynafit made a binding i was actually interested in owning or skiingQuote:
Originally Posted by fleaches
Unfortunately you can. I don't know how they managed it but they did. A friend visited Daimir Fritschi a number of years ago and apparently they said they were also restricted by an existing patent(s) on their mounting pattern. When you look at Amers solution for their height adjustable AFD on the Shift it wouldn't surprise me if it was a Marker Tour/ID patent workaround.Quote:
Originally Posted by thejongiest
The patent that has caused the problem for ATK is only valid in some of their geographical markets (I don't know which ones) but for obvious reasons they only want to have one version of each model worldwide. ATK have been amking bindings since 2007 so they must've been aware of the patent so I'm presuming they were manufacturing under the assumption that some licensing agreement would be made which then fell through.
Dynafit has continued to disappoint since they lost the original patent and other companies have made much better products and better new technologies. Maybe this was part of Salewa since they are now the owners.
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Under Salewa ownership they appear to put more effort into brightly colored clothing than any kind of binding innovation
They also put way more effort into refusing to warranty lots of dynafit products in my experience. Part of why I moved on from dynafit years ago.
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That patent claim would have been a perfect opportunity for other manufacturers to get together and establish a tech mount standard (at least for toes).
As @Spyderjon noted, folks on long trips may carry a spare binding and just like the old daze when Dynafiddle was the only game in town, a group would have a better chance of sharing the load, knowing that binder mounts were interchangeable.
Oh well ...
Thom
Will the Moment Voyager get the new mount pattern too I wonder?
Really can’t believe a drill template standard hasn’t been established for both tech and alpine. 100% against the interests of the consumer.Quote:
Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un
No. Same hole pattern as this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by thejongiest
The hole pattern patent issue does not apply to North America where we sell most of our bindings so we are keeping the original hole pattern (which is better for wider skis).
Would you put a Crest 10 or an RT 10 on a fat fishscale setup? Seems like either of them would work well paired with a ski like that for meadow skipping, long rolling tours, forest road cruising, etc.
Those bindings would be pretty ideal for that application
I wonder if the heel rotates 90 degrees and the boot rests on the tower?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tjaardbreeuwer
Indeed! From the picture in the link, it can only be a 90 degree rotation to achieve a riser position.Quote:
Originally Posted by hafjell
Pretty cool, a binder for the little goblins ;-)
... Thom
Would you order 97mm or 102mm brakes to use on a 99mm underfoot ski? Voile V6 in a 178cm length is the ski in question.
102 if you don’t want to bend them.
I took 97 for my 99 Mantra VW and had to bend them. 102 won’t be too wide.
97. I stretched 108 to 112 very easily. But they do also tuck away pretty nice so you could go 102 and forget about it!Quote:
Originally Posted by glademaster
Yeah actually I’d just go with the 102.Quote:
Originally Posted by stuntmanbo
I went with the 108 for 112 as I didn’t want to step up to 120. I’d have bought 114’s
I'm getting annoyed with the brakes on my Crests, it is sometimes impossible to press the button to engage them, especially when transitioning with skis on.
Sincerely,
my runaway ski
Attachment 361768
How did your ski get away from you if you were transitioning with your skis on? I hadn't heard about brake deployment issues, although I can see how they would be frustrating. Aside from being a bit on the heavy side, pretty much every tech binding thread out there makes me glad I have G3 Ions on my primary touring skis.
I thought I had pressed the button to engage the brakes at the top of the run, and the ski slid away from me when I took it off at the bottom of the runQuote:
Originally Posted by glademaster
Speaking of which, is anyone running the Moment Voyager versions without brakes? I assume that it can be done while still retaining the heel spacers on either side, or maybe Luke will speak up and tell us if the AFD is necessary for those. The only function I do not like on these bindings is the Rube Goldberg brake button. I have another set-up and I would rather just run them with B+D leashes. Otherwise, I have been pretty remarkably impressed with how these things ski. Pretty far out, man.
Moment is stocking the pieces to replace the removed brakes, and clean up the heel assy hit up melee for a link.
Looks like the heel of these + the heel AFD:
https://www.atkbindings.com/en/prodo.../release-10-2/
You can run those with free ride spacer right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Westcoaster
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by thejongiest
E-x-x-x-x-cellent, Mr. Smithers. I will contact Moment tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Westcoaster
Front 12 with the free ride spacer sounds pretty tasty. Do you know if you can remove brakes on the front 12?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyderjon
I'm also idly interested in this. Would love to have a link posted here when they are available.Quote:
Originally Posted by Westcoaster
Just bought a used pair of ATK Raider 12 2.0 without front brakes. Anyone recommend a good place to get some?
Yes, you can run the Voyager without brakes but WITH a freeride spacer. They are independent systems.Quote:
Originally Posted by telelebowski
We do sell a little plastic cover to put in place of the brakes to reduce snow packing in the void if you want to go brakeless.
We are current sold out of them but I do have a bunch more on the way from Italy. When they arrive we will list them on our site.
Just came across this thing, has anyone used it?
https://www.telemark-pyrenees.com/at...ustment-plates
Its a ~15g weight penalty over a custom or B&D toe spacer and gives options for easy mount point experimentation. I could see myself moving the toes forward for a day of tree skiing and back for higher speed outings.
So, as Melee chimed in, for the Voyager they are waiting on the additional thing that covers the AFD region. But you can remove the AFD and brakes and the Freeride Spacers remain. The only point of the cover is, I guess, to prevent snow from possibly packing between the Freeride Spacers? I am now running without the brakes but with the Freeride Spacers and the binding is completely bomber, I don't really see how snow could pack there, or why I would even care if it did. These were the first pair of tech bindings I have ever owned with brakes, so I am obviously heavily into leashes and other bondage paraphernalia, and now these bindings are perfect. Best tech binding I have ever come across, hands down.
I finally mounted the Crests I've had since summer, so I'll sell the brakes since I can't be bothered.
102mm rear brakes with AFD for Crest etc.
Looks like they are $75 retail, so how about $45 shipped?
https://skimo.co/hagan-brakes
They also work with BD Helio 350.Attachment 362396
I haven't paid for a binding mount in 20 years but these fuckers (Core 12 pro) look complicated ("Pins Axis Transverse Line?" Fuck you) compared to old dynafits/pivots/vipes/sollyfits and I'm not rolling out $300 for goddamned jig. Give it to me straight: How hard is it? Do I have to actually be sober? Should I suck it up and give the local shop I bought them from some biz, which would feel like defeat and take too long with everyone on the tour horse now?