Sooo did you have your PPP forgiven? And how many followers do you have on tiktok?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Suit
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Sooo did you have your PPP forgiven? And how many followers do you have on tiktok?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Suit
I’m really sad to see the direction this thread has gone. Good lord, I’m trying to unsee some of these ridiculous responses.
How’s this: I’m a single income, freelance camera guy for film and TV + backcountry ski guide.
The pandemic ceased all work for me for a full 6-8 months. Ski guide work immediately over. Film gigs halted from March to November.
I took unemployment and worked under the table on Craigslist gigs when I could.
Did I take a SBA loan? Absolutely. It helped pay my rent and fix my car. Not everyone here is as fortunate as some.
Have I applied for forgiveness?
No, it was an EIDL loan, and they aren’t in that category. I’m curious if some of y’all are confused about this distinction.
No one is or has. Any program rolled out to help in such an emergency situation will have some level of fraud. Hurricane or flood or wildfire relief for example.Quote:
You seriously going to argue there wasn’t waste in a trillion dollars getting thrown around with basically zero oversight?
Are those payments driving inflation in Latin America? Because it’s way worse there than here. Inflation has been driven primarily by supply chain issues that have arisen due to the pandemic affecting the entire world economy. It’s really not that difficult to understand but for some reason morons continue to be idiots. Are you outraged at the billions in tax payer money we give to the fossil fuel industry? Sure there were bad actors with ppp loans, I saw basically every seasonal worker in the ski industry stop working for a summer due to unemployment benefits being easier to get and more lucrative. But none of that is the driver behind inflation. When a virus affects the entire globe, globalization shows some weak points. Second largest city in the world was recently shut down for months. There were 500+ container ships sitting outside port. That back up of goods will take years to iron out. Hence there’s less supply world wide. If you want less demand to balance that out we can purposely tank the economy and go into a depression. That seems really wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by summit
::: ::: and altacoup, I used the word "contribute" not "primary driver"
And even if you wanted to be granted an argment that they had no effect, bottom line is still companies and people immorally pocketing taxpayer money that I am on the hook for will make me take a dim view of them, and if they are assholes about it, I take a dimmer view. That position is undiluted.
yea, the whole point was a fire hose to get money out ASAP. There’s plenty of posts from March/April 2020 of business owners shitting their pants because they were a couple payrolls from going under with nothing on the horizon. PPP was a success because the bottom didn’t actually fall out. People arguing that everything would have been fine have severe memory issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
I can't even follow this thread, it's all over the place. But it constantly makes me think of this comic.
Everyone is up in arms and directing tons of vitriol because someone got something they shouldn't have (arguably). Meanwhile, the oligarchs love this shit, they work hard to stir it up, because it makes people focus on the wrong things. And yes, I'm well aware that you can have space in your brain to hate the oligarchs and hate the people you think didn't deserve a PPP loan (or deserve to have it forgiven). But you're fooling yourself if you think arguing about these crumbs (because that's what they are, crumbs) doesn't benefit the real culprits of our fucked up system.
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Figure yer talking bout me.Quote:
Originally Posted by TahoeJ
Only pair of boots of Cody's or Elyse's I wouldn't lick are the ones they clean up after Theo with.
They got talent, integrity, and style.
Hope to be licking their boy's boots someday as well.
Bjarne's boots?
They've only let me sniff em so far...
No, I was not. I believe you're taking my comment in the exact opposite way it was intended.Quote:
Originally Posted by telefreewasatch
Pearl clutching over a small biz like Arcade getting a PPP loan (or even someone like CG) is so ridiculous given the many decades of government subsidies for all kinds of goofy shit, especially oil companies. The comic Danno posted upthread nails it perfectly.
This thread is so weird
She’s smoking hot visually and skiing.
She makes money as an influencer.
I checked her page and she also teaches influencing, sharing her brain power with others.
I never saw the hate thread. Who was hating on her?
I have nothing but respect.
Sorry, wasn't offended even in my misunderstanding.Quote:
Originally Posted by TahoeJ
Point is that not all athlete influencers are worthy of our respect.
Can't lump em all together.
I just don't buy into the "pay no attention to small time crooks because there are big time crooks" hand waving. Sure the big time crooks want you focused on the small-timers, but the small-timers want you to focus on the big fish. Throwing a classist flavor on the misguided reasoning is not helping either. You can consider the actions of both.
My issue, again, is if I am supposed to care about and respect someone as an influencer, entertainer, and small time industry personality, I expect them to be upstanding good people with good attitudes setting good examples. But now I am supposed to be ignore their illegitimately taking of taxpayer money to fund their smug privelaged hypocrisy? It's OK because big corps do bad shit? Pay no attention?
Fuck that line of thinking. I wouldn't trust that person, I wouldn't want to hang out or be friends with them, and I sure as hell won't respect them as a figure in the ski world.
Jeez, pull the stick out of your ass.Quote:
But now I am supposed to be ignore their illegitimately taking of taxpayer money to fund their smug privelaged hypocrisy? It's OK because big corps do bad shit? Pay no attention?
Your letter to the MG editor?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunion 2020
I just don’t see how her loan was supposedly obtained illegitimately? Backup/secondary sources from personal funds of employee or owner wasn’t really a PPP criteria iirc.
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No, didn't read their piece.
Please demonstrate "their illegitimately taking of taxpayer money".
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She was pretty quick to address how much she got, why she got it and what she used it for. Her personal brand is a business and she did lose out on opportunities because of covid, so why wouldn't she be able to subsidize some of that via PPP?
The 'this is an attack on women' part felt unnecessary considering the article was calling out influencers of all genders though.
The critique on the guy who got 50k and suddenly had a tricked out new van seemed a much more legitimate case than hers.
And dumb that Cody got dragged for a company he Co founded getting PPP and someone making the giant leap to that meaning it funded his personal 50 project. Some ppl just love to invent headlines.
Without getting into who should or shouldn't have done what, I think a bunch of ya'll are projecting your opinions and morals on the legality of the situation.
Obviously I can't speak to how anybody else filled out the questionnaires or complied there documentation but as a single employee S Corp, this is what I remember out the process.
Produce financial statements and documentation as requested by my CPA in order to complete the application. (I'm my own bookkeeper. The documentation was truthful)
Submit application though Wells Fargo
Receive funds direct deposit very quickly
Use funds as directed by my CPA (wages). Remit income taxes on those funds immediately.
When the forgiveness period was opened up, again, truthfully complete the online questionnaire regarding use of funds.
Receive email documenting the forgiveness
You can disagree with me taking the funds but I didn't break the law. The PPP was not needs based nor is much of our tax code. So you can rage all you want about who got what but I'd be a little more rigorous with your research before I started throwing around "fraud" and "illegal"
Take the fucking money and run. Offer anyone free money and they are taking it. We are all going to be dead and forgotten very soon. Nothing matters.
Ha, Cody and Jonathan went straight into this on the Blister podcast yesterday / today. Worth a listen.
Just my two cents but it seems like some people are having trouble separating what went on at their own workplace and their opinion of PPP in general from these individual cases. I don’t see any reason to think Arcade did anything wrong. I’m sure they would have preferred to stay open and continue business as usual but that wasn’t in the cards.
What about onlyfans?
Can single operator porn chicks get PPP?
I’m sure some of the big YouTube channels got PPP. Mr Beast has a bunch of employees.
This is America where most of the population condemns handouts while demanding them.
Get with the program.
Maybe someone can explain why it’s called a “loan” if it seems like it was forgiven for most people anyways. In my limited subject knowledge it seems like it was more of an additional stimulus check?
Seems like people including myself are just frustrated that some people got additional stimulus to buy vans and travel around while also preaching covid social responsibility to their followers. If they were desperate for money, I seem to remember grocery stores and other “essential” businesses clamoring for employees at the time.
I know for we begging for people to come assist with logistical support for fire that spring/summer and couldn’t find anyone because everyone was taking every stimulus they could get their hands on instead.
Instead of taking advantage of a federal program designed for them they should have taken $10/hour jobs in grocery stores where workers were dying from COVID left and right because they needed to take COVID more seriously?
I think the issue people have is these influencers took the money and then used it to fund and document a lifestyle that many would consider an aspirational luxury vacation - while appearing to have minimal self awareness. If we polled most REI shoppers on their onpions of what the PPP loans were for I doubt we’d get many to check the box next to buy a sprinter van, bike or go hiking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supermoon
If they had taken the money and used to to buy groceries and pay rent etc due to loss of sponsorship most folks likely would have been willing to overlook it. Most of them appear to have used it to further their own personal brand, in a career that many find to be less morally legitimate and necessary than a self employed general contractor.
I imagine many of their audience find some moral issues with using public money to fund the activities and purchases most save their disposable income to make.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CfmVJ...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
This dude is a badass and these influencers are scum for trying to tear his business down because he shared public information about their loans. I just bought some gear from Tight Chutes to help offset the damage Alka and others are trying to inflict on his business.
Hyperbole much?Quote:
Originally Posted by Supermoon
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I mean, I don’t think so…Quote:
Originally Posted by zion zig zag
““America’s frontline essential workers in grocery stores and meatpacking plants continue to face some of the highest risks of COVID exposure, and the need to strengthen vaccine access has never been more urgent,” UFCW International President Marc Perrone said in a statement. “But too many states are failing to ensure essential food workers have vaccine access, as they continue to face barriers with the vaccine eligibility pool expanding.””
https://www.supermarketnews.com/issu...se-ufcw-report
That’s from April of ‘21
I read at some point during the pandemic that more cooks had died from COVID than any other profession.
Summer has truly arrived in the TGR forums. This is some high grade shit slinging
Just to back this up, at one point 97% of our F&B staff were out with Covid at the same time. We had the kitchen manager cooking and the night bartender managing foh with a mishmash of assistance from other departments. F&B were the primary customer facing indoor staff and they got worked. Luckily most of our staff are young and healthy and nobody died, but some were very sick and out for weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supermoon
I heard some outdoor influencers caught it on their long haul flights to Antarctica or at the Mercedes dealership.
Hard to take someone who trademarks 'Athlete Activist' who married a real estate agent in Park City seriously when they talk about inclusive mountain experiences. I don't doubt she's caught some shit because she's a women along the way, but bitching about it anytime someone questions her seems like her schtick and her followers love it.
how many of the f&b staff caught it from someone who caught it from a globe trotting ppp customer who picked it up somewhere else?Quote:
Originally Posted by jackattack
I doubt CG has ever heard of this place, afaik McLean hasn’t written a book about it yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by dunfree
Are you dense? He came at Cody for a 100% legit PPP loan for a bunch of Arcade employees and then projected some shit that wasn’t true. What an asshole, what don’t you understand about this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Benneke10
Two sides every story, grasshopper.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benneke10
Cody Townsend has integrity.
Not a good look that your "badass" erased all his prior posts yesterday.
One definition of lack of integrity?
Erasing evidence...
Not saying he doesn't have a point about folks like cg or bl,
but including Cody and Arcade with em ain't right...
MehQuote:
Originally Posted by Core Shot
I don’t know the guy but he explains that he deleted the posts because his business partners wanted to stop the blowback from the industry big shots he was going after. It seems like Cody’s use of ppp funds is the most honorable of all the folks mentioned, and he probably could have taken more if he wanted to.
As pa woulda said: "Don shoot at sumpin ya don meana kill".Quote:
Originally Posted by Benneke10
Meh?Quote:
Originally Posted by The SnowShow
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