Bookmarking this for myself, but needs to be stickied.
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Bookmarking this for myself, but needs to be stickied.
I just want to say thank you to Jondrums and everyone else who helped/ is helping put this together.
Stickied!!
^^^ badda-boom!!!
I decided to celebrate getting the thread stickied by making a paper template for the Tyrolia Adrenalin. This one way a bit of a pain to get on 8.5x11 - I had to put it on three pages because the heel piece stretches so far back. Cheers!
Here is a Head/Tyrolia PRD12 Template.
I finally got a pair of real fun front side carvers for bullet proof, thin cover days along with high speed groomers and some bumps. I mounted the PRD's with Power Rails so I could also mess around with foot positions in 4mm increments. After playing around with this on various conditions and terrain over the past month, it sure makes me wish all bindings had at least a couple cm fore and aft adjustment so we had the choice to fine tune or tweak the mount location after an initial mount relative to conditions and terrain. I'm liking a more forward positions than in the past and now wondering about tweaking my other skis and their binding positions.
Short of that, either temporarily mounting an adjustable binding before your primary binding mount might be worth a consideration for some....or simply installing an additional set of inserts for an alternative riding position.
Also, here is a good read on: Ski Binding placement recommendations.
How did he make the drill bit? I can't seem to figure it out
Too stupid, or am I missing something. Crowd control seem lacking these days.
"HEY... YOU KIDS... GET OFF MY LAWN!!!"
I have a pair of Look/Rossi demos that I want to mount. Does anyone have a template for these? I'm trying to search but coming up blank.
Does anyone have a template for the current Tyrolia plates, including the Ultraflex and Power Plate 9? Looked at the Tyrolia thread, also did search here, nada.
I'm going to mount a pair of skis with the new Salomon/Atomic STH2 binding tomorrow (we got the jig today). What is needed data-wise from me for someone else to create a paper template? Second, any good ideas of how to get said data in a convenient and precise way?
^^^ a couple of options:
set the jig on a scanner and scan the toe and heel holes
or get a pair of calipers and measure from hole to hole. You want to use the calipers to measure from the inside to inside of the hole and then add the diameter of the hole to get the center-to-center distance.
Here's the measurements you need (all center to center)
toe front width
toe back width
toe front left to toe back left
heel front width
heel back width
heel front left to heel back left
toe back left to BSL center mark for 300BSL (denote either center to mark, or along center-line)
heel front left to BSL center mark for 300BSL (denote either center to mark, or along center-line)
If I understand things right, the hole pattern for jester changed last year (between 11/12 and 12/13).
Which model is the current template for?
I mounted two pairs for my 10/11- jesters last year with this template (eternal gratitude by the way) with BF inserts and might mount another pair for the same binding.
I also might mount a new pair of jesters for a friend, so it would be very useful with both templates (and to know which is which :tongue:)
And if I misunderstood, and the did'nt change the hole pattern, just the connection brackets I could'nt be happier but please enlighten me :)
CarlE, were you able to scan that STH2 jig? We have one but the printer is down . . .
I'll see if I can get it done, but I wont be in the shop for a couple of days...
Jon, are the Guardian heel BSL alignment marks backwards on the template?
Seems like the marks should be largest at the top (closest to tip) and get smaller toward the center of the template.
I did a search on this thread but didn't come up with an answer
What am I missing here?:confused:
Any one have the new salomon STH WTR pattern, they changed the heel piece pattern
Does anyone know where the print scaling options went for windows 8?
edit:
Window's "reader' app (default to open a PDF) sucks and doesn't give you the option. Had to go through Adobe Acrobat and all was right.
Does anyone have a Plum Yak template? Their website is down and a few minutes of internet searching has turned up a whole bunch of nothing.
Because the Guardian is a frame design, the position of the heelpiece doesn't change relative to the toe (which determines the midsole position). Therefore the markings for the heel are the same as for the toe, so the marking are correct. I used them and they were perfect. Be really carefull during mounting that you poperly align the heel with the toe, or the locking mechanism might give you some headache...Quote:
Originally Posted by telebobski
anyone have issues with the salomon template? just used it and the heel piece rear screws are a few millimeters short of the actual length.
My little contribution back to Jon's efforts. I created a GIMP file for the Heel and Toe patterns with transparent layers, so that you look for binding conflicts without having to print up a bunch of pieces of paper on tracing paper, or trying to use backlighting. To deal with different BSLs, just duplicate the layer, select all, and move it accordingly.
Toe patterns:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_dF...it?usp=sharing
Heel patterns:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_dF...it?usp=sharing
(GIMP is basically an open source, free version of Adobe Photoshop.)
Jon, do whatever you wish with them and feel free to put them on your website, as it was essentially created with your contributions. If you can, provide links to these files on the original post. For some reason, I couldn't add them as attachments on TGR. It doesn't let me upload XCF files.
heh awesome, I've been doing this a lot in gimp the last few weeks. this'll be appreciated greatly by those willing to download gimp.
Added letters to identify which binding is which. This also allows you to print up and use one single piece of paper for binding identification on a ski that you have no prior mounting knowledge of (also can help you identify mount position and BSL).
Here are the PDF's for letter-based binding identification:
Attachment 142849
Attachment 142848
T = Tyrolia
P = Axial
A = Axial2/PX
F = FKS/Pivot
S = Salomon
D = Duke (old)
E = Duke EPF (new)
J = Jester
V = Dynafit Vertical (old)
R = Dynafit Radical (new)
Ahhh - Got it - thanks. Seems pretty obvious when you put it that way...:oQuote:
Originally Posted by Frank Naets
I've printed out the guardian template, and the scale on the side matches up great, but when I look at the BSL marks, its seems like they increase by 10mm, but they're marked as though its 20mm (i.e the distance between the 320-340 is only 10mm when I measure it)
Can anyone clear that up for me?
That is because the toe template and the heel template are each only half of the footprint of the boot.Quote:
Originally Posted by maladjusted_vagabond
For instance, if your boot increased BSL by 20 mm, you would only move the toe 10 mm forward and the heel 10 mm backwards to keep your midsole on the line.
Has anyone else found that the Head/Tyrolia Mojo/Peak template puts you like 5-7 mm forward of the line? I used it last year and found this to be the case even after triple checking things. Can anyone confirm this or whether or not it's been amended (or maybe I still fucked up even after triple checking)?
Ahh that makes sense thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by whatsupdoc
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Originally Posted by Lindahl
This so cool and useful, thanks a lot for cramming it all together, I'm printing it out now
I'm sort of curious where Jons plate screw holes fall but since they are wider then any possible conflict I guess it doesn't matter
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So which one is the pivot?
FKS = Pivot
Remounting some skis I have - they are mounted with Marker M14s. Anyone have a template?
Does anyone know how different the hole patterns for a duke vs m12 touring are?
Awesome resource, thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lindahl
Would love to see the various plates (sollyfit, dynaduke, etc..) added to the mix if you get a chance.
Marker Tour12 has the same pattern as the Duke. (Except the new Duke EPF, which is different.) (Also worth noting that both the Tour and Duke come in two sizes, SM and LG)Quote:
Originally Posted by Veldmanmiller
Just finished my first mount without a jig. Look PX 18 XXL paper template worked cherry! Stoked on it! Love the thread
Mounted skis for the first time tonight - big thanks to Jondrums for the tools. Anyone else feel the heel pattern on the Radical is slightly off? On both bindings I got 3 of 4 holes bang on but the same hole (rear left) was just slightly off on both - when centre punched the hole wanted to line up just outside where it should have. All other holes went smoothly. Anyone else encounter this?
Has anyone mounted a pair of the new STH13's? Is the hole pattern the same as the old Salomon template?
Different pattern. No template on this thread yet. But measurements are posted over at: http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...bindings/page3Quote:
Originally Posted by billyhoyle
Beauty, thanks for the link.