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omg those poor parents literally went through hell on earth. There are no words to describe how horrible that must have been for them and how long the road to any sort of "recovery" is going to be for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by neufox47
gofundme is here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/hyland-family-emergency-fund
Well here you go. Someone put drone footage of San Francisco to the Blade Runner soundtrack.... Fucking 2020.
https://twitter.com/omarjimenez/stat...324391936?s=21
Well, that's haunting. Worked on construction of Salesforce Tower and the Transbay Transit Center and they're both featured in the video. I remember a couple orangeish mornings there in 2017, but nothing like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by seano732
https://kmph.com/news/local/china-pe...wM-8ZhAqsdjAW4
China Peak ok for now
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Blue River
From the Spokeman Review this morning, both parents are in critical condition. If either or both survive, it's going to be a tough road from here on. She's also currently pregnant. I don't know how their lives will be going forward but you have to think that the guilt and remorse of being out there when they were will haunt them for the rest of their lives. What a sad situation; unimaginable.Quote:
Originally Posted by KQ
My wife sat next to the Grandmother of the 1 yo on her flight back from Florida. My wife broke down in tears telling me about it when she got home. I cried some as well listening. So heartbreaking.
I share this first with a caution. In the politically charged world we live in it will be really easy for scapegoating and distracted finger pointing, so let’s not focus on the “Who” until investigation are completed.
From a trusted source:
“Something larger is at play. The wind event was used to create a massive amount of chaos. Our state had been having a nice slow fire year destruction wise and for a month of hot dry weather hadn't had any really big bad fires. Then one wind event and every highway and drainage across the mountain and major travel corridors suddenly have starts. All within 12 to 24 hours of the event. Wasn't random enough. I manage a random ecosystem and look for patterns in it, this was a solid pattern“
Stay vigilant citizens. We need to report malicious behavior if seen.
This is just a amazing amount of smoke.
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And it's headed back my way. Yay! Not.Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
Had the house open this morning as it was a cool clear moring but now I'm starting to smell it waft in so the hatches have been battened down.
Increasing smoke is expected! A change from the current easterly wind pattern to a westerly wind will take place late today and persist through the weekend. This will begin to transport smoke from the large fires west of the Cascades across eastern Oregon and Washington this afternoon and overnight. Otherwise, a breezy Sunday is expected with a cold front Monday prompting breezy and cool conditions. Rain chances return to the forecast Tuesday and Wednesday.
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...0e&oe=5F7EC078
From my same trusted source, “There's so much chaos still it'll be awhile. Lots of threat of continued distruction. The east wind forced these fires downhill, well now the local weather patterns and normal onshore offshore flow will take over and these things can now potentially flank themselves and burn back up the mountain. At a huge natural disaster sized scale”
I hope you are kept safe KQ and everyone!
13YO boy and his grandma died in Beachie Creek fire.
https://katu.com/news/local/13-year-...iam-creek-fire
Family in Lyons had to run for their lives. Grandma had a broken leg. Both were found in a car
More heartbreak.
And Storm Hood, your “trusted source” needs to put down the QAnon koolaid and get smart about wildfire.
In 1910, three million acres in N Idaho burned in two days. See “Big Burn”
In 1933, 350k acres in NW Oregon burned in two weeks. Only heavy rain stopped the carnage. See “Tillamook burn”.
With thinking like your source, there should be a nationwide shortage of Tinfoil
I came across this article today. Some of the links are legit, don't know about the overall premise as the site is listed as:Quote:
Originally Posted by TBS
Overall, we rate Law Enforcement Today far-Right Biased based on story selection and editorial positions that align with the conservative right. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to the use of poor sources, lack of transparency, and failed fact checks.
Sources: Series of wildfires on the West Coast may be “coordinated and planned” attack
IMO while there have been arsonists arrested it may be more of a "weeeee! I like fire, I'm going to join in and start some of my own" situation rather than something that is coordinated. More opportunistic.
Law enforcement agencies across Oregon are issuing statement pleading with people to stop spreading these rumors.Quote:
Originally Posted by KQ
It is bonkers.
I find it hard to imagine that the arsonists mentioned in the article were part of some vast conspiracy. One would think the masterminds would be smart enough to not get caught in the act.
Guessing they haven’t heard of Occam’s Razor at Law Enforcement Today...
^ This.Quote:
Originally Posted by TBS
No shit. Every fire cycle we have the criminal arsonists, the deranged, the stupid fucks, you name it.
Just days ago we were camped at 9000 ft in E Sierra on a USFS road. The general vibe was alertness (slink Fire to our north set the mood) but enjoying the clean air. Then Bam! sky turned orange, nasty smoke cloud up high came in as Creek fire to our far SW blew in. We scrambled and drove out right away. 5 mins later we saw group of campers had created enough of a pile for a bonfire. I mean WTF. 70 F, winds bringing Armageddon smoke cloud and they’re getting to roast a pig or something.
Anyway logic goes nowhere with the QAnon rumor spreaders. Too bad there isn’t an actual conspiracy afoot that could round up these fucktards and exile them to NK or Russia.
So saddened by the story of that 1 yr old. Also Storm Hood you are in my thoughts as well; must be hard being incapable of rational thinking. Vibes!!
Law enforcement agency = deep state -> that's what they want you to believe /sQuote:
Originally Posted by char_
To put it in perspective, of Oregon's 4.2 million residents, about 4.2 million of them are going about their lives. Hundreds have lost their homes. While that's terrible if you're one of those hundreds, and we feel for them, it is nothing. But, SH, go ahead and panic.
I had just shared one such post from LE about avoiding rumors.
TBS, I had your position in a vigorous debate with my trusted friend two nights ago. I thought coincidental factors that erupted because of the weather event and conditions. In fact here was my drippings sarcastic message to him
“So a nefarious actor has been waiting in the wings to start a chain of fires. They see the forecast and they launch their attack? All while conveniently knocking trees into lines and somehow avoid the single most easily accessed Hwy from major centers of population, Hwy 26, sparing Mt Hood and Tillamook N.F?”
I still hold that many of the fires are accident; however, I no agree with my friend that arson is a possibility. There have been reports of arrests made. I am taking the let’s observe, be safe, and open-minded approach.
Also QANon can fuck off, but thanks for linking me to that crazy.
JFC, the ignorant and stupid are the ones that require normal citizens to remain vigilant.Quote:
Originally Posted by frorider
Crikey - Mollala OR Level 3 evac orders issued
Another example of a forest fire missing the trees:
https://twitter.com/AnnieSciacca/sta...39376708825088
#BearFire burned the elementary school, forest behind is untouched. It didn't use the fire lane either.
Thank you for your concern. I admit that emotion and stress are not good for rational thought. You can save your kindness though for more worthy. I am lucky to be safe while others are not.Quote:
Originally Posted by frorider
My wife is registered for an Improved Decision making for threat assessors class which will focus on how to avoid letting our brain trick ourselves into the conclusions we want to see. Maybe she will teach me something as a result?
I am riding the middle ground on this issue. I do not believe in Deep State or that this is work of some mass terrorist act. However, I do know that there are arsonist who act independently and with the goading of various social circles, and they could have easily been operating under the same derangement and desire to cause harm during an opportune time. Some of these people have recently been arrested
https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/...245447240.html
https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/...245637155.html
There is reasonable suspicion enough for other investigations:
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/202...hief-says.html
I will avoid any further turning this thread into a PolyAss, or a need to defend my logic, and will only post deduced conclusions, if I have any, and keep myself away from the more difficulty handled waters of induction and abduction.
I am sorry for all those harmed in these fires and best wishes to everyone.
Hey beer30 - looks like Tokatee GC may have been spared. This is the first perimeter map I’ve seen with any specificity
https://www.centraloregonfire.org/wi...uality-maps-2/