It's hotter than a whore house on nickel night

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Originally Posted by altasnob

Seattle now has a higher record maximum temperature than Miami, Atlanta, Washington DC, or Chicago.

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A lot of those record temperatures are highly inaccurate, usually on the low side. For example, I scoffed at the Las Vegas 117 degree one, because I've been there and seen 121 on the thermometer with my own eyes. Same deal for a lot of spots in Northern California, where it's definitely been at least 120 on several occasions. Some of the official weather stations are placed in goofy ass micro-climate locations. That's an issue here locally, where we always add 5-10 degrees to what the forecast says. Forecast for today is 85, which means it will really be 91 or 92 most likely.

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Originally Posted by TahoeJ

A lot of those record temperatures are highly inaccurate, usually on the low side. For example, I scoffed at the Las Vegas 117 degree one, because I've been there and seen 121 on the thermometer with my own eyes. Same deal for a lot of spots in Northern California, where it's definitely been at least 120 on several occasions. Some of the official weather stations are placed in goofy ass micro-climate locations.

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The official measuring locations are supposed to be in locations at least 100 feet from pavement. I imagine the station at Las Vegas is somewhere between the runways at McCarran/Harry Reid.

Workers at Voodoo Donuts in Portland walked out on Monday in protest to making them work in the heat. Most places in town here without AC were closed yesterday afternoon. Seems cruel and unusual punishment to make people work in that heat, although the fruit pickers routinely work in heat that bad.

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Originally Posted by TahoeJ

because I've been there and seen 121 on the thermometer with my own eyes.

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"Temperature sensor siting: The sensor should be mounted 5 feet +/- 1 foot above the ground. The ground over which the shelter [radiation] is located should be typical of the surrounding area. A level, open clearing is desirable so the thermometers are freely ventilated by air flow. Do not install the sensor on a steep slope or in a sheltered hollow unless it is typical of the area or unless data from that type of site are desired. When possible, the shelter should be no closer than four times the height of any obstruction (tree, fence, building, etc.). The sensor should be at least 100 feet from any paved or concrete surface."

By far roof for bang per dollar. Blow it to R60 if you can. Side benefit is the sound insulation. We can only hear rain if it is absolutely pouring.

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Originally Posted by BCMtnHound

We use bamboo blinds on the outside of all our windows that see the sun. Makes a big difference with that bamboo taking the heat before it hits the house.

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I wish society would look to more passive economical solutions rather than just perpetuating global warming with AC installs. I live in a 100+ year old house with no AC. No side insulation, porous as a sieve. I have original windows and have storm windows for winter, making them double pained and nearly as efficient as modern windows. On my to do list is to have plywood cut the same size as the storm windows and paint the boards white. Using the existing mounting hardware, I'll hang the white boards over the windows on the outside of the window (on south and west side of house). I'll only do ground floor because I will need to take the boards on and off each day (not difficult). All homes should come with a similar cheap, easy solution.

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Originally Posted by PNWbrit

"Temperature sensor siting: The sensor should be mounted 5 feet +/- 1 foot above the ground. The ground over which the shelter [radiation] is located should be typical of the surrounding area. A level, open clearing is desirable so the thermometers are freely ventilated by air flow. Do not install the sensor on a steep slope or in a sheltered hollow unless it is typical of the area or unless data from that type of site are desired. When possible, the shelter should be no closer than four times the height of any obstruction (tree, fence, building, etc.). The sensor should be at least 100 feet from any paved or concrete surface."

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Yep, I'm aware of all that. There are simply some poorly placed official weather stations.

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Originally Posted by The AD

How about Lytton, BC having the hottest temperature ever recorded in Canada? Lytton is at 50 degrees N latitude. A location 50 degrees of the Equator shouldn't be getting to 47.5 degrees C (118 F).

edit: altasnob beat me to it.

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I don't know...I am not a weather expert, but given that the earth tilt favoring the northern hem in summer and affording longer days (14-15-16hrs) allows warmups especially in valley locations no?

The equator is 12hrs daylight year round give or take.

Lytton hot hot but dry dry dry hot. Friend of mine that lived there used to take buckets of water and throw them right down the front hallway on the hardwood floors in his house. Give it 10 minutes and it was all dry again - and the house a lot cooler. The Fraser is right there and I think the farms in the area with sprinklers look very lush.

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Originally Posted by altasnob

<snip> On my to do list is to have plywood cut the same size as the storm windows and paint the boards white. Using the existing mounting hardware, I'll hang the white boards over the windows on the outside of the window (on south and west side of house). I'll only do ground floor because I will need to take the boards on and off each day (not difficult). All homes should come with a similar cheap, easy solution.

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Europe does solid exterior shutters like this. Why shutters aren't more common here (esp in the sunny, arid west) is really perplexing.

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Originally Posted by sirbumpsalot

I don't know...I am not a weather expert, but given that the earth tilt favoring the northern hem in summer and affording longer days (14-15-16hrs) allows warmups especially in valley locations no?

The equator is 12hrs daylight year round give or take.

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Unrelated to actual high temps but I was recently in SLC when it was 100 and live in SWMT (90's are common) and the time the sun was up seemed to make a difference to me. It was certainly still hot as fuck but the mountains delaying the rising sun and the shorter length of the day made it feel more tolerable.

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Originally Posted by skaredshtles

Europe does solid exterior shutters like this. Why shutters aren't more common here (esp in the sunny, arid west) is really perplexing.

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Personal preference and performance?

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Originally Posted by altasnob

I wish society would look to more passive economical solutions rather than just perpetuating global warming with AC installs. I live in a 100+ year old house with no AC. No side insulation, porous as a sieve. I have original windows and have storm windows for winter, making them double pained and nearly as efficient as modern windows. On my to do list is to have plywood cut the same size as the storm windows and paint the boards white. Using the existing mounting hardware, I'll hang the white boards over the windows on the outside of the window (on south and west side of house). I'll only do ground floor because I will need to take the boards on and off each day (not difficult). All homes should come with a similar cheap, easy solution.

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You mean shutters?

Seems the newer houses these days just have decorative shutters - BRING BACK THE HINGES!!!




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Originally Posted by AK47bp

You mean shutters?

Seems the newer houses these days just have decorative shutters - BRING BACK THE HINGES!!!

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Yep, mine does. It would make sense to make them actually functional. But they can be difficult to maintain. I've painted more wooden shutters than I care to remember. Those things suck to scrape-prime-paint.

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Originally Posted by AK47bp

Seems the newer houses these days just have decorative shutters - BRING BACK THE HINGES!!!

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Good god, no. I had like 30+ shutters on hinges on my house. Took them all off--they were pain in the ass.

Btw. The new TGR movie is called "Stoke the Fire?"
How appropriate.

Yes, shutters would work. But my house has three windows in a row so shutters wouldn't work for me and look goofy.

The Bullit Center in Seattle, which bills itself as the greenest building in the word, has mechanized exterior shades:

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https://bullittcenter.org/a-future-so-bright/

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Originally Posted by altasnob

Yes, shutters would work. But my house has three windows in a row so shutters wouldn't work for me and look goofy.

The Bullit Center in Seattle, which bills itself as the greenest building in the word, has mechanized exterior shades:

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Yeah - the exterior shades is really the best way to go, IMO. Similar to interior shades where they drop from a "storage box" type thing...

I mean - none of this is rocket science and would help dramatically when you're trying to keep out direct sun. I really should put some motorized blackout shades on my skylights - they're really the only windows in the house that direct-sun can get in at this point...

Currently 75 in Seattle and 92 at Snoqualmie pass according to the weather service.

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Originally Posted by TahoeJ

There are simply some poorly placed official weather stations.

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Poorly placed for what though? The backbone of weather collection and prediction is largely for aviation and maritime purposes.

That's why weather underground/PWS was a revolutionary idea. You don't live at the airport.

What's making me happy is how steady it's staying around mid 80s here in Issaquah compared to how it was skyrocketing yesterday morning.

https://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/ti...ap&raw=0&w=325

Feels positively chilly outside right now.

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Originally Posted by The AD

The official measuring locations are supposed to be in locations at least 100 feet from pavement. I imagine the station at Las Vegas is somewhere between the runways at McCarran/Harry Reid.

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METARs are a composite of observations. The anemometer(s) and RVR sensors are adjacent to the runway(s). Temperature/dewpoint and precipitation readings are taken somewhere away from buildings and pavement (usually a little white box out in the grass/dirt somewhere). Barometric pressure is read somewhere that's at or below the official airport elevation. And visibility is a mix of what the machines see, what an official observer sees, and at times what the tower sees.

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Originally Posted by abraham

Currently 75 in Seattle and 92 at Snoqualmie pass according to the weather service.

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Scott Sistek commented on Twitter that Hurricane Ridge was 81 degrees at 6:00 this morning. That's a pretty strong inversion with Port Angeles being at 61 at the same time.

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Originally Posted by TahoeJ

A lot of those record temperatures are highly inaccurate, usually on the low side. For example, I scoffed at the Las Vegas 117 degree one, because I've been there and seen 121 on the thermometer with my own eyes. Same deal for a lot of spots in Northern California, where it's definitely been at least 120 on several occasions. Some of the official weather stations are placed in goofy ass micro-climate locations. That's an issue here locally, where we always add 5-10 degrees to what the forecast says. Forecast for today is 85, which means it will really be 91 or 92 most likely.

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You are probably looking at thermometers that are getting sun or heat from local objects. Official thermometers are always shaded to get the “real” temperature.

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Originally Posted by neufox47

You are probably looking at thermometers that are getting sun or heat from local objects. Official thermometers are always shaded to get the “real” temperature.

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Shaded, ventilated and built to fulfil wmo standards.

But tahoeJ has seen that it was 134° on rick's farm supply and tire store Thermometer!!!