There's just sooooo many things I could say to this!
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We definitely need more female perspective on this board to help solve these incredibly important issues.
and melons.
How the hell are you going to share a hotel room together and not bang? That's unpossible.
WTF?? Yes you are being retarded. She is giving you all sorts of signs - hit it!
Someone else posted that long distance relationships are for people too chicken to break up beforehand - which many times is true, except if he is in Iraq.
You only live once, and this dude does not sound like much of a close friend, would he do the same for you?
I disagree slightly. LD relationships are possible if:
1) definite timeline for coming back
2) definite agreement for plans upon coming back (i.e. marriage, move together somewhere).
otherwise, yeah.
No timeline for return of boyfriend, who is not only away but overseas. She always wants to hang with you alone and its almost always her idea. Your buddy is hooking up and doesn't care too much about this girl. She has said she never hooked up with him.
Seems pretty clear cut to me. She is giving you all the signs and all the reasons for you to justify to yourself the horizontal tango.
3 pages and no "worthless without pics"???
It would be funny if when his friend gets back he posts his story here. Story would probably go something like this:
"So, I was sent abroad to work and while I was gone my buddy tried to banged my girl because he thought I might be banging other girls. My girl was only hanging with him because he seemed safe....some friend....etc"
I think what really matters is whether you value your friendship with your buddy overseas. If so, sack the fuck up and talk to him. Ask him what's up before stomping all over his toes. Seems like you don't really know what's up between the dude and the chick.
Cause, you know, you could potentially come out looking like iskibc here by assuming their relationship doesn't matter. Kinda like he thought this board didn't matter, "it's just the internet" sort of deal.
I wanna have dirty crazy pig sex with cracker's avatar. Blurred, the video will arrive in 5 to 10 business days.
Dude who is overseas isn't a super awesome friend or anything. He is actually brothers with one of my friends, so a friend by default that I have partied with and whatnot.
He wasn't sent overseas. He went completely voluntarily. I think if he really wanted to stay with this girl he could have gotten a much better job here in the states.
I'm just gonna go for it. Not worth wondering "what if" forever.
Sack up. You do not want to be stuck in the 'friend zone' forever. she will never make the first move to go past the zone, you have to do it.
Friends come, friends go. If he is overseas with no timeline on coming back, he's a shitass for not freeing the young lass from the confines of what she thinks is a relationship. If you feel guilty, call him before you bang her, but please bang her. No fuckie fuckie on their last two meetings? There's nothing between them unless they are saving themselves.
Anymore female input? I think only one chick posted in here so far.
Just try to imagine you are this girl. Also keep in mind that this girl is really pretty shy.
Ok, I'm a girl
1.Tell the guy you've fallen in love with his girl.
2. He phone's girl and freaks out/tells her
3. Everything's out in the open so you bang girl.
4. in the ass.
The end.
My worthless advice, well maybe worth $.02 anyway...
1. Looks like you want to be more than just fuck buddies with chica based on your comments so far, right? If so, and assuming you end up getting the girl in the end, you'll want her to look back at this time and see you did everything stand up... That you aren't the cheating kind, etc. Maybe even good husband material???
2. Also, between you and your friend who is overseas... I think YOU would be mostly in the clear with him if it is chica who ends it with him "the long distance thing just isn't working". THEN sometime later you and she connect up (and bump nasty all night long). Well, he needs to THINK it happened in that order.
I say the WORST thing you can do is start any conversation with the friend... maybe you call him a week or three after she has broken up with him and tell him you want a bud to know you are interested in his ex... you aren't asking his permission, just informing him... but not before then!
So... how to accomplish 1 & 2 above? Rather than pull some Don Juan move and sweep her into your arms and throw her on the bed... then find out she just wants a friend... AWKWARD!!! You are going to have to sac up and talk to her. And in a way that both temps her and leaves you the out if she's not interested. You start with talking, but a warning, you're probably not likely to just "talk" her into your arms though!!!
OK... you claim to be "shy"... I would think it should come natural, and you probably don't need any advice on specifics... but since you could be "clueless" as well as "shy", I'll throw in some specifics... This will probably read like the start of a lame porn story? Sorry!
Start talk with something like "Hey ________ (chica), I want you to know I really really enjoy spending time with you... But I find some parts of it a bit awkward because of your relationship with _________ (friend/boyfriend)... (then lean over and whisper over her shoulder) I just want to let you know, if you ever wanted to take our relationship up a notch, I'd move heaven and earth to rock your world." Then act like nothing ever happened...
It's a bit like fishing I suppose, just because they don't bite the lure the first cast doesn't mean that it won't work... She could jump your bones right there, or might just smile and let time pass? Make sure you are touching her when ever you get close, even just a hand on the shoulder when you walk by. A hand on her knee when you talk sitting down. At some point you're gonna have to get close... try just leaning in and smelling her hair along her neck line. Act dizzy and apologize that you just couldn't help yourself. If she isn't getting up and running away, next time in nuzzle there a bit, move on to small kisses, and move it around to her lips.
In 10 minutes either you are going to be tearing each others clothes off, or at some point she's gonna stand up and be pausing awkwardly by the door apologizing that she needs to leave. I say you want to sort this out before NYE if possible...
If however I am wrong and you are just looking for a fuck buddie... tell her you don't want to come between her and her boyfriend, but if she ever has "needs" you can help her out... He never needs to know, she'll never know about the places he's sticking his dick right?
And lastly, if you can't get balls to do anything... you should understand that in addition to being "shy" you might also be "gay". Not that there is anything wrong with that, in fact, with how it sounds like the relationship is going so far, she might already think you are. :) Ha.
Thanks for the solid advice. Definitely want to be more than fuck buddies, but if she just wants to be friends I will be happy to service her undercarriage.
We are always touchy feely, I just haven't kissed her yet.
And I am definitely not gay!
There is no way we can make any sort of call without a pic of the intended victim, c'mon already, cough it up.
Ok, I fall into the pretty shy girl category, and tend to do this good friend routine with boys I like, and I will always wait until they initiate it, always. So I strongly suggest you tell her how you feel. It sounds like there is a good chance things will go well for you, and if not, hopefully you can still be friends, because I believe that can work too. Good Luck!
Except the problem is this:
Alias's friend's girlfriend is actually her boyfriend. Thus, the girlfriend is overseas, and Alias wants to go to concerts and fuck the boyfriend. Hence the reason for the Alias in the first place.
ah..whatever..I'm confused..
I agree with grr and others.
We cannot possibly tender objective advice on this matter without seeing naked pictures of said chick.
Get going!
anymore insight from the wisdom of the maggots?
I know for sure that I am gonna talk to her at the next appropriate time, but any more insight is always a good thing.
I think I'm in love with Hayduke !
The fact that he doesn't get this is going to result in a choice crying-in-my-beer post from him.
No offense alias, but you need to find another woman. One who doesn't need a doormat in her life. And you need to become a boy who refuses to be a doormat...and then you will be on your way to becoming a man.
So I got drunk on massive amounts of tequila, blacked out and apparently was hitting on the girl pretty openly the other night. I called her and she didn't pick up. One of my buddied said it was a go, and I was hammered and agreed.
I'm fucking retarded.
end transmission of emo unicorn spew.
Chill out emo boy, not everything means something. Sometimes not answering the phone means she was taking a shit, or was hung over. The world doesn't revolve around you, she's got other shit in her life, and maybe, just maybe she's kinda busy right now, hell, she might even need some time to think, or time to end it with your "friend".
Or, you could have fucked it up big time.
Eh... i'm gonna get another beer.
Step 1: post nakked pics
Step 2:Poopenhausen... nuff said
no need to thank me
yes to the original question
I would really like to know what has her boyfriend overseas - what's he doing? Please define "voluntary"...