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but who needs whippets, crampons, ropes, or garter belts when you have heavy lange alpine race boots to penetrate 1/4-1 inch deep spring snow over water ice on slopes over 50 degrees? best boots evar!!!:D
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http://forums.alpinezone.com/gallery...MG_0261_2_.jpg
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Comment was aimed at Rog.Quote:
Originally Posted by JayPowHound
Obviously.
doh! i meant the prominent lookers left line:)Quote:
Originally Posted by icelanticskier
bite me brit!!!:D
rog
That's a good point about the avy strap rule. I would say a "traditional" slide and a hard surface arrest wouldn't necessarily be mutually inexclusive on the same day. Maybe not on the same pitch though unless you changed aspects midway through.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper
Thanks for the input.
I like one whippet, and don't use the strap as I switch it hand to hand as uphill hand changes. With one, I can drop the other ski pole and effect a reasonable self-arrest, similar to an ice axe arrest. Use your second/ downhill hand to crank on the shaft of the whippet.
I have my ski mtneering students practice self-arrest w whippet before we launch into steep terrain. Have used it to arrest myself without much speed, but defining moment was watching a student fall and gather speed, then whippet arrest successfully on north-side of Shastina.
For me, any time I have ski crampons on skis, I carry whippet. As much for an extra balance point in kick or step turns as anything. I have used it/ needed it badly outside Chamonix in the Aiguilles Rouges where we couldn't find the second rappel anchor. Downclimbing became do-able with a whippet.
Folks have initial trepidation about skiing with a whippet, but I find that if you hold it firmly at the hand grip, you can keep it under control. Have never felt threatened by the possibility of skewering myself w the pick.
Is this what you're looking for?Quote:
Originally Posted by SILENCER
http://vimeo.com/64715511
This is exactly the kinda info I was looking for (or at least how I envisioned having just one working). Thank you sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by homemadesalsa
I was waiting for this song to make an appearance in this thread :)Quote:
Originally Posted by JTrue
FIFY^^^Quote:
Originally Posted by SILENCER
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rog
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Originally Posted by icelanticskier
And actually, it is Mrs. Heh, heh. I do love all the threads talking about how I wish I could get the wifey into the mtns. Follow me, ladies.
that's Mrs homemadesalsa in case you boys didn't know
tougher than you
some of you fellas could use a good woman in your life
happy I got one
Avoid the need to ice axe arrest. Learn how to self belay--nothing fancy. Just ram shaft of axe in as far as you can, move both feet up (one at a time works best), move axe up. If that won't hold you chances are an arrest won't either. Obviously we're not talking about true ice climbing where you can only get the pick in. You fall on that and the only thing that will stop you is a rope or a rock. And while you're at it, learn how to cut steps to save time by not putting on crampons for short icy sections.
Reckon if I need a whippet, I'm probably only fractions away from needing an ice axe, even a light one will do. And Old Goat points out why: self belay with the shaft is a very useful application. I'm not gung-ho, I like feeling secure, I like having options.
I've also found whippets to be poor at low/high dagger self belay. Another technique that I use nearly every time I am front pointing on hard alpine snow or refrozen spring corn on steep slopes.
A few times I've read of or witnessed high level skiers/boarders, yet low level inexperienced not-humble mountaineers, getting themselves into a scary spot or going for a slide in spring on a steep frozen slope whilst ascending in crampons. The discussion usually concludes with "you really needed a whippet". I usually think, no, you needed to plan your route better, you needed to consider where you were and what you were doing and what your skill level was, and you needed an ice axe.
Whippets have a good practical function in travel, but I think they are over-applied by skiers who don't/won't think like [careful] mountaineers.
For the record, I'm not a high level mountaineer by any stretch.
You married Rog?Quote:
Originally Posted by telemike
i actually like the combination of whippet.Quote:
Originally Posted by neck beard
i usually carry a tiny, very light ice axe ( http://www.simond.com/en/cat/Ice_axe...d/Fox_Carvingt + ice axe) and a whippet if i want to climb something steep and i think its a quite useful and light combination.
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not yet, but i got me a good one fer sure. marriage/baby(s), the plan:)Quote:
Originally Posted by neck beard
you?
rog
damn!
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well it only took me 39 years to find her;). man o man have i fucked up some good relationships over the years. but not this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by neck beard
she wants a whippet, btw. had her up on george with me this winter. she's hooked!
rog
Interesting skiing (and step-cutting) with double ice axes in this video (the second one):
http://snowbrains.com/skiing-where-y...hing-my-limit/
A little bit harder than the stuff I ski.
ya but what's with the double pole plants:fm:Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
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