Why is it that I can only get one good season out of my gloves?

Can anyone comment on how waterproof the leather gloves like the Kincos are when you snoseal them?

I tend to go thru gloves pretty quickly so I would really like to get a pair that lasts (I think I've used my current pair only 25 days or so and the fingers are already spliting). But I am worried about using them in the PNW. At the end of the day, my gloves are usually fairly wet (Dakine Bronco GT for the moment). I am going to have to replace my current pair in the next few weeks. I do like my current gloves, but if I could get something to last longer AND be completely waterproof I would be pretty happy. Also looking at the Hestra Vertical Freeride....but the Kinco is $100 cheaper, so would prefer to go that route.

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Originally Posted by iggyskier

Can anyone comment on how waterproof the leather gloves like the Kincos are when you snoseal them?

I tend to go thru gloves pretty quickly so I would really like to get a pair that lasts (I think I've used my current pair only 25 days or so and the fingers are already spliting). But I am worried about using them in the PNW. At the end of the day, my gloves are usually fairly wet (Dakine Bronco GT for the moment). I am going to have to replace my current pair in the next few weeks. I do like my current gloves, but if I could get something to last longer AND be completely waterproof I would be pretty happy. Also looking at the Hestra Vertical Freeride....but the Kinco is $100 cheaper, so would prefer to go that route.

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I ordered a pair of Kincos to try out this weekend on a hut trip. I am going to waterproof them and will report back though Colorado isn't as wet as the PacNW.

re: Patagonia Work Gloves.

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Originally Posted by tetsuma

Seven days? That has got to be a record...

why is it that gloves suck regardless of how much one pays for them? sigh.

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Nope... apparently I have set a new record. The warranty gloves I got on Saturday started to blow seams on Sunday... :nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2: Beat that.

These are $120 CDN gloves at MSRP. I am bringing these back as well.

Trying some Hestras this year. Like them so far. Warm. But the real test doesn't start until spring. Then, its good not to be a glove.

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Originally Posted by iggyskier

Can anyone comment on how waterproof the leather gloves like the Kincos are when you snoseal them?

I tend to go thru gloves pretty quickly so I would really like to get a pair that lasts (I think I've used my current pair only 25 days or so and the fingers are already spliting). But I am worried about using them in the PNW. At the end of the day, my gloves are usually fairly wet (Dakine Bronco GT for the moment). I am going to have to replace my current pair in the next few weeks. I do like my current gloves, but if I could get something to last longer AND be completely waterproof I would be pretty happy. Also looking at the Hestra Vertical Freeride....but the Kinco is $100 cheaper, so would prefer to go that route.

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I Patrol with them in the PNW, I have no problems after snowsealing

Just wanted to give another thumbs up for the cabelas pinnacle glove. Only negative is the non removeable liner. They put them on sale every couple of months if you keep checking.

Stop masturbating with them on - that'll add at least 25-30 days to their longevity.

your pole will thank you

I'm in a Hestra mitten right now...I love them but I've probably only put about 25-30 days on them. My index fingers get extremely cold due to poor circulation and I haven't had that problem once I went to the Hetra's. A little pricey but I have found it worth it so far.

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Originally Posted by nate s

Just wanted to give another thumbs up for the cabelas pinnacle glove. Only negative is the non removeable liner. They put them on sale every couple of months if you keep checking.

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I have a pair of the Cabela's Pinnacle Goretex gloves. They're just so-so. They were really warm at first, but after 30 days or so, they're breaking down and not nearly as warm -- now they're good for typical everyday Tahoe weather, maybe 20 degrees+. The leather on the fingertips is wearing out quickly too.

But for $25, I got my $ worth. For $50ish... keep looking.

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Originally Posted by iggyskier

Can anyone comment on how waterproof the leather gloves like the Kincos are when you snoseal them?

I tend to go thru gloves pretty quickly so I would really like to get a pair that lasts (I think I've used my current pair only 25 days or so and the fingers are already spliting). But I am worried about using them in the PNW. At the end of the day, my gloves are usually fairly wet (Dakine Bronco GT for the moment). I am going to have to replace my current pair in the next few weeks. I do like my current gloves, but if I could get something to last longer AND be completely waterproof I would be pretty happy. Also looking at the Hestra Vertical Freeride....but the Kinco is $100 cheaper, so would prefer to go that route.

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I have always had good luck with this glove waterproofed, but the Teton snow, not so wet. I also re-waterproof a couple times per season. And oh so cheap.

I like my swany mitts. They are super durable and super warm on really cols days. I also have a pair of regular swany spring gloves that are good for the warmer days. The mitts have an all leather palm which is nice...

Like Zappa I have a pair of Lowe Strangegloves (mine are even some samples) that while they didn't last as long as his saw me through ~5 seasons of hard use, including ice climbing a bit. They're highly patched/seamgripped but remain my backup pair. [xover]Best. Gloves. Ever[/xover] I would spend 200 on a new pair in a heartbeat. Right now I have BD's and they're fine, probably 2.5 seasons old. They just pale in comparison to the strangegloves.

http://www.hascoind.net/attachments/.../kin1927kw.jpg

or

http://www.hascoind.net/attachments/...co/kin94hk.jpg

bitches.

work great here in the dry CO climate. Something else is that my gloves may look wet, but are totally dry/warm inside. More expensive "waterproof" gloves are the exact opposite.

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Originally Posted by powderhound16

I like my swany mitts. They are super durable and super warm on really cols days. I also have a pair of regular swany spring gloves that are good for the warmer days. The mitts have an all leather palm which is nice...

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These are what I just replaced - they split on the seam by the thumb. And the wrists are too short. Though I probably got 120 days or so out of them, so I guess that's reasonable. I also thought the heater pockets weren't that useful - too far away from your actual fingers - it worked better to just put the heater packs on the backs of my hands or something.

I ended up getting Mountain Hardwear Absolute Zero mitts, but with all of one day's use so far, durability remains to be seen.

And Mr.AG has gone through a lot of Dakine gloves. They seem to tear at the palm pretty easily, but they're cheap and he doesn't like anything too thick or warm, so he likes them.

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Originally Posted by iggyskier

Can anyone comment on how waterproof the leather gloves like the Kincos are when you snoseal them?

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the snoseal seems to wear off, but even without being snosealed they do pretty well (here in CO...)

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Originally Posted by homerjay

Something else is that my gloves [kincos] may look wet, but are totally dry/warm inside.

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fully agree with this. I had more than a few days where the kincos looked totally soaked, and I kept expecting my hands to get wet/cold, but they never did.

they're as warm as the marmot ultimate gloves, and for $10, if you loose em, no biggie

Can anyone recommend a good snowseal or is any of the ones available at any outdoor store (ie., Nikwax) sufficient?

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Originally Posted by crashnburn'd

The best, most durable gloves I've ever owned have come from Cabela's... Made for sitting in trees, so you know they're good.

Cheaper than the Ultimate Ski Glove or if you want a nice spring glove or if you want an insulated work style glove

Too bad there's no winter camo. Plus, they're not hip and trendy, so that turns some people off as well.

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I bought a pair of the Cabela's Pinnacle gloves last year for my trip to Utah last December. The worked great. I don't have a lot of days in them yet, but so far so good. Very warm.

i warrantied my last Burton leather gloves after the stitching blew out in a finger after probably 60 days or so.....and they replaced them with these

http://www.burton.com/ProductImages/...e/B7900302.jpg

So far so good, not a ton of loft but they keep me warm once the blood starts flowing. I sealed them with Hestra snow-seal.

Gloves just won't last forever, but if they last a shorter time then I would expect, I send them in with a nice note.

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Originally Posted by Rontele

Can anyone recommend a good snowseal or is any of the ones available at any outdoor store (ie., Nikwax) sufficient?

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http://www.emocs.com/conditioners/snoseal.jpg

or you can try Rontele's Secret Sauce, now with 0 g trans fat

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Originally Posted by homi

http://www.emocs.com/conditioners/snoseal.jpg

or you can try Rontele's Secret Sauce, now with 0 g trans fat

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touche :redface:

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Originally Posted by homi

http://www.emocs.com/conditioners/snoseal.jpg

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^^^ Works great.

When you apply this stuff, use a hair dryer to heat the leather and "melt in" the snoseal. Repeat 3-4X right away; the leather keeps soaking it in.

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Originally Posted by PrincessGruntyPuffs

I also like using snowboarding gloves. They tend to be stronger in the places that usually rip easily. I get 3-4 years out of a pair of Dakines.

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I second the Dakine gloves. You have to search for the best they make but since they are geared more towards snowboarding they hold up great. I have a pair I have had for 8 years and their still my favorite gloves -- plus another new pair waiting until needed. Some are Gore-tex and the price is about $80 so its a pretty good deal.

Nice features like the removable liners and goggle wipes are nice too. They have a roomy fit so they give your hands a little wiggle room so that they keep your hands warmer than most gloves I've found by Marmot, Mountain Hardware, etc since they tend to have a tighter fit.

Long ago I saw a really burly pair of Burton gloves but they were roughly $120 so I passed. To this day I wish I bought them cause I have never found such a well-made glove. I'm not sure what their top ot the line gloves are like today -- most I have found weren't anywhere near as good.

Just in general look for the higher end snowboarding gloves. They tend to be made to take more abuse.

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Originally Posted by El Chupacabra

^^^ Works great.

When you apply this stuff, use a hair dryer to heat the leather and "melt in" the snoseal. Repeat 3-4X right away; the leather keeps soaking it in.

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Great advice. Thanks!

are there any other things I should do if say I am also going to do it my well used troller gloves, which I have never treated?

Cheap, pure, bees-wax BTW:
http://images.orgill.com/200x200/4429957.jpg

Use it before you put them in a toilet...

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Originally Posted by Rontele

are there any other things I should do if say I am also going to do it my well used troller gloves, which I have never treated?

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don't wax goretex gloves.

The best gloves I ever owned were the Mont-Bell Storm gloves. They don't make them anymore, but they lasted for 7 seasons. I loved the Cloudveil Troller glove, but after one season they started wetting out big time and now they're starting to pack out. I have 1.5 seasons on the Cloudveil RPK glove now and they seem to be holding out better than anything else I've tried so far.

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Originally Posted by lemon boy

don't wax goretex gloves.

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they are not goretex.

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Originally Posted by TeleHoar

Cheap, pure, bees-wax BTW:
http://images.orgill.com/200x200/4429957.jpg

Use it before you put them in a toilet...

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Also makes an awesome ski wax... if the snow is right.;)