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Probably is, but Id rather philosophy than sit in from of the tv like a typical stupid stoner and eat ding dongs. Dont get me wrong Im not thing "I only do constructive thing when Im high" kinda guy, I fuck around with my friends a lot, but Id rather do something creative rather than staring at the idiot box.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorCascader
(never skiing though).
now that's nerdy.....
Tripping is a challenge. Sometimes it can be entertaining to lose control, then get it back. I think it is a lot more realistic that trying to argue against a point no one ever made (tripping makes you smart.)
dude, you are totally missing the point of getting high with all your nancy prancing around doing creative stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Duderino
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Originally Posted by lemon boy
Exactly. The point of getting high is to boost your alcohol tolerance.
I thought that's why you give blood :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by kidwoo
No, you give blood so you have money to buy booze, duh.Quote:
Originally Posted by cj001f
Was there some assumption of mutual exclusion?Quote:
Originally Posted by cj001f
Being a delusioned hippy who thinks acid makes you smarter in the smarts, I do have to point out the failed wisdom in thinking that giving away blood boosts your tolerance. Quite the opposite........as any broke college kid has learned.......and exploited
Skiing on acid is a blast. So fun.. There's so much sensory input you don't have time for wierd psycho trips. I laugh so hard my stomach is sore the next day.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorCascader
Yes, you are correct. Alcohol aid not so much in the smarts department.Quote:
Originally Posted by kidwoo
You should take some acid.Quote:
Originally Posted by cj001f
skiing on acid was a favorite of mine also, but only back east. Out west I never felt it would be right, at the time. I'm not trying to reign on anyone elses experience, but I have/had too much respect for the rocky mountains.
I loved to trip, and I loved to do everything while on acid. That's why I stopped. You start, or least I started, to live for that experience, and the things you loved to do sober before,become less appealing while not tripping.
Obviously, I took it too far. And I think that those are the people who end up on the corner. It's not so much that they believe in what their saying,... but what it is their feeling. In a way their addicted to that feeling, but so much more aware and alert. Not like your classic junkie, all cracked out and feining, but ALIVE and preaching that religious experience b/c that's all they know now.
Now, I never ended up on a corner or anything like that...not even close. But I know the feeling of how that infinate straight 2way road starts to bend
and it's funny that these guys literally end up in a corner. What seems like such an enlightening experience can quickly turn into a dead-end.
All that I will say about the whole "smarter" thing is that I sure learned alot about myself and my limits. It was like challenge...me vs. lsd...who's gonna freak out first.
going back to the original question, I'd look for a bunch of articles on extracting DMT from botanicals. It does not sound difficult or dangerous, unless you're a dumb ass who like to light up over a bowl of benzene. and take the effort to do the extra extractions to purify it. needled and yellow crystals is what you should get.
Extracted DMT is a lot easier to stomach... well, that's a misnomer... you can't eat it due to MAO, which will render it useless if you ingest it through the digestive tract. this is why ayahuasca needs to be eaten w/ a MAOI (MAO inhibitor). it's also whIy ayahuasca causes severe puking. t's also why it's dangerous if you're taking stuff that needs to be metabolized by MAO - blue cheese, bananas, etc.
DMT is supposedly a very altering experience if injected. If smoked, it hits hard and fast, but wears off within 15 - 30 mins. (Smoking and injecting bypasses the liver, which means it doesn't get broken down immediately.) Very managable, and typically the drug used for medical studies - partially because LSD and mescaline are so stigmatized by the powers that be, despite the fact that they're interesting molecules.
You can also do the mescaline route if you can get some san pedro cactus or buttons.
good luck! go do the delysid diddle dance!
I know what you mean. I had some acid once and it was like "let's arm wrassle", and I was like "fuck you lsd, your mom rides the bed post"Quote:
Originally Posted by benDover
Then lsd was all "yo kidwoo, you kiss pee pee"
So then like I grabbed lsd by the foil and punched it in the beavis and butthead graphic. Lsd was like "whatever". So I crumpled up lsd and threw it in the fire place.
I'm pretty sure I won but I had some fucked up looking squirrels staring into my window for a few hours all licking the glass and stuff.
Yeah, I've done quite a bit of research on DMT (thank you Tool for sparking my interest). It's actually a chemical that is produced naturally in our brain, but is only released 2 times during our lifetime: at the moment of death and the moment of birth.
The whole 20 minute trip off of pure DMT sounds appealing, especially since it basically alters your entire world completely, but from all the reports that I've read, that twenty minutes can seem like years. Literally. I doubt that I'll ever get up the balls to try it.
Salvia just seems like a bad idea. I think I'd probably try morning glories above anything else.
I think a lot of people have raised some very valid points in this thread and I can relate to almost all of them. I think the key to it all is moderation, moderation, moderation, like with everything else out there.
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Originally Posted by kidwoo
Classic...
What's some of the craziest experiences you've all had while tripping? I can't really contribute my own since I can count the number of times I've tripped on one hand, but my gf used to trip acid and go to science class in highschool, among a lot of other stupid things... fucking hippies.
science class...whatever
try public speaking on the big Q & A day after the "legalize weed" speech and nobody else shows up!
f'ing hippies!
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Originally Posted by Storm11
Well, I've never really had a bad experience..or trip whatever you want to call it. Getting an education on cuts of meat from the butcher at Albertsons in Tahoe City was interesting. I didn't buy any meat..
The Bill Graham Memorial concert with 600k people in Golden Gate Park was cool. CSNY killed it. When the Otis Spunkmeyer plane dropped flowers on the masses it was over the top.
Stuck on some in bounds cliffs at Whistler ranks up there..
It's very akin to being held down by a giant 600lb blanket and being shown things. Not a whole lot of room for introspection until afterwords. Pretty overwhelming. I feel pretty priviledged to have come accross it though. The south american beverage of choice sounds more interesting to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Storm11
You ever have a really bad concussion where you go blind? It's kind of like that. Very disorienting. Pretty unique but certainly nothing I care to do again. And tastes like shit when smoked.Quote:
Salvia just seems like a bad idea. I think I'd probably try morning glories above anything else.
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I really don't see how salvia is any worse of an idea than any other hallucinogen. Based on what is known so far- it is among the safest and has no bad after effects.
one of the best ski days of my life was at Bachelor after taking mescaline. Riding at full speed across a blue (yeah ice) sphere...
never more confident...air time was timeless.
never more crazy...that shit was so bomb.
oh...I think I might of smoked a little marijuana...but I can't remember.
I like skinning on blow.
had to throw a reply in here to show my support for this thread. as for hallucinogenics, mushrooms are probably one of the best and most intense moments in my life. i am mainly a pot smoker but have tried other things and would give up all of it if I knew I could eat mushrooms twice a month for the rest of my life.
http://myspace-513.vo.llnwd.net/0093...33079513_l.jpg
This is your brain on drugs
I ate some mushrooms a few months ago for a rock festival. Good high but I'll take LSD any day every time over mushrooms. Ecstacy too... Mushrooms make you sick. Don't buy into all that natural crap. LSD and MDA are the way to go if you want to trip.
Mushrooms and LSD are both fun. Only thing I really don't like about mushrooms is the stomach pain afterwards, which isnt too bad, and that sometimes they can get kind of dark.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4matic
Mescaline is my favorate though. No reason to ever do mushies or acid when you can get it, for me at least. Much much much crazier hallucinations plus it doesnt have the dark side of the trip that mushrooms sometimes can.
I was a spotter for a buddy of mine when he did DMT before this past summer before the semester started. He had a pretty good expirence, it seemed. He really doesn't talk about it, but said it was pretty enlightening. I am not sure how much he truly remembered afterwards, though. I would like to try it someday, don't know if I ever will though. I would want to make sure I am really prepared for it.
As of now, mescaline provides all the entertainment I need.
Tried shrooms this summer, really liked it (got to see the mountains and satellite dishes behind Stanford breathing) but I really wanna try acid and mescaline. Problem is, they're both insanely hard to find on the east coast. I can't say that I'm huge on the hallucinogenic lifestyle, but I wanna keep my options open and try whats out there a few times. Ya only live once, right?
salvia does not make you sick- and no brain damage is a nice plus that you dont get with MDMA, no flashbacks like LSDQuote:
I ate some mushrooms a few months ago for a rock festival. Good high but I'll take LSD any day every time over mushrooms. Ecstacy too... Mushrooms make you sick. Don't buy into all that natural crap. LSD and MDA are the way to go if you want to trip.
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Originally Posted by kidwoo
Just wanted to stop in and say,
BWAAAAAHAAAAAAAHAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!! !
What brain damage did you get from mdma?Quote:
Originally Posted by nealric
The creator of LSD. Dr. Albert Hoffman, turned 100 this year. He looks great and talks fondly about his dozens of LSD experiences.
''It's very, very dangerous to lose contact with living nature,'' he said, listing to the right in a green armchair that looked out over frost-dusted fields and snow-laced trees. A glass pitcher held a bouquet of roses on the coffee table before him. ''In the big cities, there are people who have never seen living nature, all things are products of humans,'' he said. ''The bigger the town, the less they see and understand nature.'' And, yes, he said, LSD, which he calls his ''problem child,'' could help reconnect people to the universe.
Rounding a century, Mr. Hofmann is physically reduced but mentally clear. He is prone to digressions, ambling with pleasure through memories of his boyhood, but his bright eyes flash with the recollection of a mystical experience he had on a forest path more than 90 years ago in the hills above Baden, Switzerland. The experience left him longing for a similar glimpse of what he calls ''a miraculous, powerful, unfathomable reality.''
''I was completely astonished by the beauty of nature,'' he said, laying a slightly gnarled finger alongside his nose, his longish white hair swept back from his temples and the crown of his head. He said any natural scientist who was not a mystic was not a real natural scientist. ''Outside is pure energy and colorless substance,'' he said. ''All of the rest happens through the mechanism of our senses. Our eyes see just a small fraction of the light in the world. It is a trick to make a colored world, which does not exist outside of human beings.''
He took the drug dozens of times after that, he said, and once experienced what he called a ''horror trip'' when he was tired and Mr. Junger gave him amphetamines first. But his hallucinogenic days are long behind him.
''I know LSD; I don't need to take it anymore,'' Mr. Hofmann said. ''Maybe when I die, like Aldous Huxley,'' who asked his wife for an injection of LSD to help him through the final painful throes of his fatal throat cancer.
But Mr. Hofmann calls LSD ''medicine for the soul'' and is frustrated by the worldwide prohibition that has pushed it underground. ''It was used very successfully for 10 years in psychoanalysis,'' he said, adding that the drug was hijacked by the youth movement of the 1960's and then demonized by the establishment that the movement opposed.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...52C0A9609C8B63
all of itQuote:
What brain damage did you get from mdma?
ive done shrooms, but thats it besides ganja. But, i have started to find that certain hybrid strains of ganji have progressed to give such a strong effect that in my opinion they relate more towards a low level trip then to being high. I have gone through some pretty intense self-examinations while ripped, and sometimes i will go completly inside my own body or another object(like a TV) and completly lose contact with my physical body. Its a very cool experience.
And, i am 100% positive that the weed wasnt laced with anything, its just a hybrid organic strain.
Scare tactics and coercion by the government:Quote:
Originally Posted by nealric
"Scientists at Johns Hopkins University who last year published a frightening and controversial report suggesting that a single evening's use of the illicit drug ecstasy could cause permanent brain damage and Parkinson's disease are retracting their research in its entirety, saying the drug they used in their experiments was not ecstasy after all.
The largest and best-controlled study of the effect of MDMA on serotonin showed no long-term effects in former users and minimal to no effects in current users," he said."
http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/dll/...te_recant.html
as an fyi to any and all idiots....THIS:
http://www.biglines.com/photosv2/200...ines_65896.jpg
is not one of the mushrooms you should eat for its hallucinogenic (sp?) properties.
rut row...Quote:
Originally Posted by lemon boy
Actually it's a fly agaricQuote:
Originally Posted by lemon boy
http://peyote.com/jonstef/flyagaric.htm
Which IS a goo goo variety.
BUT as far as I know it's a south american thing so you're right in that if anyone in north america finds something that looks like that.....don't eat it.
haha....Quote:
Originally Posted by nealric
There was actually some seriousness in that question.
I do know some club kids who really have destroyed themselves with it but that's with like 3-4 normal doses several times a week...........and with the accompanying lifestyle that I'm sure isn't exactly a non-contributing factor.
Used in moderation that stuff does nothing to cause brain damage.......other than thinking that ugly fat chick looks nice and soft and should be licked.
interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly_Agaric
I'll look it up again when I get home, these have always in my mind been under the poisonous category. (they're everywhere)
Well shit...now that we are on this topic...
Went down to capital reef this past weekend to stay at a yurt that my family owns right outside the park. It's on the east side of the park off the notom road, so really, nothing is around. We ended up being stuck in the yurt for more than a day due to huge amounts of rain. We woke up on Saturday to clear skies and each took 2 hits of LSD (there was 6 of us). We wandered our way down to this strange rock where there was not a sight of society (besides our portable river toilet:wink: ).
It's pretty hard to explain the whole experience, but the whole day was utterly amazing. We had two drums and a didgeridoo, and plenty of food and water. The only human thing we saw was an airplane which I bought to the ground with the didgeridoo. I ran for more than a mile, practically sprinting, jumping over rocks, running up hills, all the way acrossed this expanse of land we were on. The whole landscape just blew everyone away, we had capital reef for one view, the Henry mountains for another, and spider mesa (i think?). I have never seen the desert look the way it had that day, and it truly made me love that land. As bizarre as the land may have been...The music could shape the landscape and we concluded that the entire landscape is now tuned to a C#. So much more happened, but its all just so hard to say...
Anyways...Whole thing didn't change my life at all. I had a wonderful time, and it was an experience I will never forget, but change my prospective on life? Not really. It was just an experience...one that could never happen without LSD. I had insights, but they were not all the significant. Even at that, I came away from that day with the best feeling, like I had the greatest time, and I did. It was not much more than that, just a great time.
You can't even imagine the way the world can be when looking at it on LSD. And in a way, I think its something almost everyone could absolutely enjoy. I even got my girlfriend to do it, and I didn't think that was going to go over well at all. Basically it was all planned out, with the perfect setting, group of friends, and time. Do all these things and you can set yourself up for quite the experience, which may or may not change your life.