sinners arrived last night - awsome flick.
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sinners arrived last night - awsome flick.
I watched the movie between studying for various final exams this week, and I have to say, it is a refreshing and soul soothing break from the hectic bullsh!t of everyday life. No other ski movie, with the possible exception of Immersion makes me feel that way. Sure, the lines are not gonna make you shit your pants but the storm shots, the music and the quality of the cinematography makes me dream of winter and deep, deep days in the woods with good friends. There will be people who don't like this film, and there are times when I watch full on ski porn instead; however, nothing makes me feel as good as this beauty.
[eloquent bump]
-Ben
the HoShow, a non-mag Rockstar and I were coming back from climbing at Brian Head last monday and I pop in Josh Ritter; the HoShow immediately says "hey, I've heard this before" - I say ya in sinners. he says I didn't like that flick; I say ya gotta watch it again - it is one of those rare classics where it just keeps getting better the more you watch it :)
best powder skiing in a movie i've ever seen. it just screams SOUL at ya. finally a ski movie w/o all the all too common cliff hucking flippy spinny jibby straightline heli-access shit and just straight up smiling and skiing among friends. the powder bliss grins in that flick are just priceless.
I too give Bill a big thumbs up too for being so cool .;)
I'll take the first words about sick pow footage and get me to the store for a purchase.
Although, after my best run ever captured on film, I looked over at Bill with a big pile of film laying on the snow and thought, "Oh shit...I hope he got that!"
dooohhh, he didn't....
Guess you'll have to find another best run ever, and hopefully the guy behind the camera is ready for ya.;)Quote:
Originally posted by Baconzoo
Although, after my best run ever captured on film, I looked over at Bill with a big pile of film laying on the snow and thought, "Oh shit...I hope he got that!"
dooohhh, he didn't....
If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times, this movie makes me wanna move to Whitewater tonight.
-Ben
[end of tactful bump] lol
And I need it back from BumZ. (mental note, don't lend ski porn to single bartender guys)Quote:
Originally posted by Xover
... double werd!!!! Bill Heath and Josh Ritter kick!!!
Mr. AG,
I need your copy back so I can tape it. :D
Bump for the best soul ski movie ever made and for the definitive Bill Heath thread on the TGR boards.
-Ben
Satan is skillful but he cannot reach the highest temples. -Reggae quote
I was lucky enough to get the raw footage that Bill shot for WM on the one trip I went on with them. I get a chance to re-edit and examine Bill's handywork. We spent 2 weeks around the highest peak in NZ and I'm gagging on all the EPIC scenery, glaciers, and places that only few have ever laid eyes on.
BOTTOM LINE:
Skiing takes you places, to the greatest places on earth! and the people who go to these isolated vistas dance in natures finest element. They give thanks and praises to the most high.
Bill has gone a step furthur by capturing these views.
God bless him....
I can't wait to bump this soon with my re-edit. Some of you will gag too...
School is hard this year for me. I'm doing well and working hard, but it seems to be in vain, something is missing; maybe it's a girlfriend, maybe its any person who truly understands who I am and that I don't look at things like most teenagers do, maybe it's something else altogether. After 3 weeks of 6 day a week classes, I finally have a 2 day weekend. Just popped in Sinners for about the 125th time and finished watching it. No matter how many times I see it, this movie calms, recharges and rejuvenates my soul. Listening to the music and seeing the images of deep, deep powder and fat flakes falling takes me away to that place that exsists just out of reach.
The proverbial Shangri-La is out there for me to find, but not yet, not with school, studying, trying to find friends who I can honestly relate to, and a girlfriend who understands me and my addiction to winter. Sooner or later I will come to my Utopia, God willing it will be sooner, but who really knows? Until then, this movie brings me as close as I can get to that special place being 15 and living in New Jersey.
Sat nite, fambly sleeping.
Puff puff
Pow pow
Sinners in five minutes and counting.
YES!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Xover
The segment in the beginning of the movie, after the shot of 50+ wellow snowmobiles, a slower mothion seg comes on to one of the best songs I have ever heard, Track 6 off the Hello Starling album by Josh Ritter. (thanks Xover, got CD from Woodsy and buring it now! :D )
The movie is so different, the art, ........ hell, it is really a great film, like fine wine.
Edit: Ice has the right idea for sure. If I go watch this again today (watched it last night AGAIN), my wife will most likely kill me. 2 days of Sinners and Josh Ritter, grovin out. :D
edit2: HUGE thanks to bagtagley, he sent me his extra copy out of the kindness of his heart. I hope to return the favor somehow someday!
Yeah, amazing song, I'm planning on buying Golden Age of Radio and Hello Starling later today. My second favorite song in the film is "Lay Me Down" by The Frames, it just seems so perfectly matched to the style of shooting and the segment. The whole thing is a work of art. Here's to hoping that Bill turns out something else like it sometime in the future, only this time it needs to be about 3 times as long. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Buzzworthy
Link to the trailer: http://www.bhandf.com/2004/images/ne...tre%20copy.jpg
Ordered :D
bumped to top of christmas wishlist. :cool:
There is no doubt that this is the definitive thread on Sinners both on the TGR Boards and anywhere on the internet.
I've helped Bill sell so many copies of his film I think he should give me some kind of finders fee for bringing so much business to him. :p ;)
Buzzy Buzz,
You're welcome indirectly for Ritter Cd; I still gotta get Woods Golden Age of Radio - JR's first Cd. Me and Jiggs will knock your newly bought skis right off; great songwriter who's songs I love to listen too while driving back down LCC after an epic Alta pow session.
Now, if we can just get JR to come anywhere near Utah I'm sure it will be a killer Utard Maggot gathering :)
Speaking of which, pliiiiiiz...
thanks :)
Glad you're enjoying it. Bill told me to send it to someone who'd really appreciate the film. Guess I made a good choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzzworthy
The stickers were plenty. Just think positive thoughts for me making it to the Summits this year. The Mini starts during finals week (didn't realize that until a couple weeks ago), so that might end up being a tough one to swing.
My wife put it like this - Sinners is a film that explains WHY we are skiers, not just why/where/how we ski.
Very nice and re-watchable.
I don't know how I ignored this thread for so long, but consider another one purchased. :D If its seriously that much better than Immersion I think my new 51" big screen will be wore out in a week.
castor, i'd defect from the yankee ranks and help ya out with the jibberish, but a friend lost/made off with my copy. karma, perhaps --->he broke his skis shortly afterwards. i really want another copy. might have to reorder. truly i say, 'tis art.Quote:
Originally Posted by supercastor
glade, you're frequent homage to Bill's work is super cool and well written. I completely agree, the film captures exactly the soul we've all been missing in the 80's 90's movies, though there's shreds of it in Gaffney's "Walls...", i think. just not as quietly beeyootiful. which is a shame, b/c i would bet my skis Scott's got the footage for immersion 2, it's just that it's too expensive to develop it into another film. He's super creative and so much more keyed into the soul of the sport, the passion behind it. I wonder if he's seen Sinners, actually? hmm.. . .
and i'll echo what many have already said in varying forms. "Sinners" is addictive and in a subtle way. i was bummed when i found it to be shorter than most ski film, but the more I watched it, the more I loved it. and i already knew the first time it was brilliant. but it's peace and beauty grow into you, throughout you. and it feeds the same passion i feel when watching more superficial, (but nearly as equally important), ski movies. I can't tell you how many times i popped Sinners into the DVD player at 1am last year, and grinned ear to ear, watching every detail of his editing, lighting, how he chooses to use the music, all to make that time on the screen transcendent for us.
It's not "XXXtreme!!!" b/c it doesn't need to be. I really need my ski porn, but the distinction is I couldn't live/ski as fulfilled as i do if I'd never had the chance to see Bill's work.
I'm sold, order sent!
atta boy. good'on ya.
Good chance you'll be waiting for a lonnnnnnng time. Bill is my nextdoor neighbour and as far as he's concerned, he is done with that part of his filming career and has moved onto other arena's. I've questioned him often about it and while he'll never say never, he says it's highly unlikely. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by glademaster
Too bad, that is the first ski movie I've seen in years that I actually liked. It had a real groove to it.
Oh well, true artistes are a fickle lot.
POW! POW! POW!
The skiers in that movie were under the snow for way too long. Choking for sure? You can't ski and hold your breath for that long, no way!
Yo didn't you see they had snorkels!Quote:
Originally Posted by Baconzoo
I ordered 'Sinners' the second I saw the trailer, back when it was called 'Snow Falling on Sinners.' (Well, okay, I told my dad about it and he ordered it... it's great having a dad who is as addicted as I am to this stuff :D )
I LOVE this movie. It's kind of cool that there won't be another one, because anything else would probably be a dissapointment. How do you top Sinners?
BTW, just finished watching Immersion. I like that flick just as much as Sinners, but for different reasons.
I was checking out my new high definition channels tonight and Warren Miller's "Vertical Reality" was on. In VR there is a segment where they show Bill as a WM cameraman and give him a little bit of a feature. In addition to showing him as a cameraman, they show him bungey jumping in NZ I think.
Yeah, Bill spent something like 16 or 20 years shooting with WM Films. I swear that I can pick the segments he shot out of most Warren Miller films just because of the shooting style. Either way, the man does magic with a video camera. It would be interesting to see him and Gaffney team up for an independent project, kinda like a synthesis of tru Gaffney works (Walls, Immersion) and Sinners. I bet it would be amazing. It'll never happen, but I can dream, right? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by release
Once again, we're stoked to have the latest Bill Heath film in our line up for the 5th Annual Rossland Film Festival Nov 19-21st. Perfect timing too, as the snow has started, and the Sinners are starting to gather in our mountain community...
Those of you in the area, don't miss this show! If you haven't seen it, come out and experience it. If you have, come celebrate this masterpiece in ski flim art...
...the after party is a blast too...!
Tix on sale this Friday - from the usual Kootenay outlets.
More info on the website:
www.rosslandfilmfestival.com
This festival’s 2004 award for Best Film on Mountain Sports goes to a film that celebrates the sheer bliss of powder skiing. Sinners (Canada), directed and produced by Bill Heath, extols the exquisite beauty of deep snow. “This is a film of flowing grace that captures the essence of deep powder,” says Libecki. The mountain sports award is sponsored by Big Rock Brewery.
http://www.banffcentre.ca/mountaincu...ds/sinners.jpg
Sinners played at the Telluride Film Festival...the film is even more amazing when its all blown'd up and stuff.
I think I'm the only one here that didn't like the movie. Overkill on the slow-mo, and I'm still trying to figure out how to compare it with Immersion? I've got a copy and I'd be willing to sell it or trade it for another ski flick.
Wow, I just realized there was a link to this page on Bill's website. The internets sure are great. :p Anyway, watched the movie again last night, this has to take the total count between 100 and 150 viewings. The best part was, a friend of mine who isn't a real serious skier, was over and as we're flippin through the channels bitching about how crappy TV is and talking about how the first flakes of the year flew 2 nights ago here in NJ, he says "dude, it just snowed and it's almost winter, lets watch Sinners." Even my winter-hating, non-skiing mom likes the flick for some reason.
Whatever, I ramble too damn much, but I thought I would include this email exchange between me and Bill from last season, not to spam for his flick, because I've done enough of that, but just to wish good karma on the guy because he seems like a helluva nice dude.
-----Original Message-----
From: Glademaster [mailto:glademaster@blair.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 9:23 AM
To: info@bhandf.com
Subject: Sinners
Hi Bill,
I know this email is about one month late, but I had to write it sometime. I recieved a copy of your new movie, Sinners for Christmas this year, and along with it you threw in a free copy of Ski Your Ass Off 2. You talked to my mom about them, and she told me this after I got them. The second I unwrapped them I threw them into our DVD player and was amazed. Sinners is by far the most amazing ski film I have ever seen, and I watch many. The music, skiing, and narration by Dr. Snow were perfect. It was not the generic in your face ski movie, which is what made it so great. Every time I watch it I come to realization that, before all else I am a skier. I live in Blairstown, New Jersey, not exactly a skiing mecca, and this has gotten me through many snowless days. Just wanted to say thank you for the great film, if I'm ever in Nelson, I'll be sure to stop by your office. Keep the great movies coming.
Sincerely,
Glademaster
glademaster@blair.edu
Bill's reply:
"Thank you so much for the kind words Ben.
That is the effect i hoped for. You made my day!
It snowed 67cms over the last three days and i just returned from my first midweek shred of the year. So coming home to such a heartwarming letter is the icing on the cake!
All the best!"
Bill [Heath]
Maybe I'm just a dork, but I seriously love the flick. :confused: :biggrin:
Best Film on Mountain Sports went to Sinners at the Banff Mountain Film Festival
I had been saving it till my dad's birthday to give it to him. I just opened it and watched it tonight cause I gave it to him on the 13th and he's now in India... and I couldn't resist.
I'm blown away. I'm going to have to spend a solid couple weekends watching that again. and again. and again.
Amazing art.