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07-31-2006, 08:08 PM
P_McPoser

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Originally Posted by bklyntrayc

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.

Better to breathe fresh cool air and see stars at night than choke on taxi exhaust and be blinded by light pollution.

Different strokes for different folks.

You wouldn't be caught dead in a small town, I wouldn't be caught dead in a place with a population over 300,000.

Does that make either of us stupid? I'd like to think it didn't. But whatever.
07-31-2006, 08:13 PM
P_McPoser

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Originally Posted by cj001f

You realize there are people in LA who pay more taxes than all of Winnemucca combined? :eek:

I wonder how many of their employees are in poverty and on welfare.... Having ultra-wealthy folks in your city is a bragging point now? :confused:
07-31-2006, 08:18 PM
BigDaddy

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Originally Posted by AstroPax

I'll put my money on the cockroaches.

-Astro

With you on that... they'd survive a nuclear blast!

Anyone remember the movie, "The Hellstrom Chronical"? Very interesting movie from the late 60's (early 70's?) about man/insects, etc. and survival. I'm sure it's not as great as I thought it was then, but it may be worth a review...

PS- Last winter in VT sucked because of all the rain... many feel global warming has already ruined winter there. I'm buying stock in Water Country!
07-31-2006, 08:25 PM
Jer

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Originally Posted by MassLiberal

technically, the sun is too small to become a supernova,

But it will swell in size and swollow the earth.

I disagree. I think that the sun will crank out more solar wind as it evolves into a red giant, and this will push the earth into a wider, cooler orbit. The solar year will be much longer, and as a result, it will become financially easier to travel twice yearly to make the best of the northern and southern ski seasons.

Can I get my American Optimist™ badge now?

But I reserve the right to thank the American Cassandras for alerting us to many other perils that we have responded to - not perfectly, maybe not even very well, but at least well enough to get us where we are.

BTW: Malthus was right. He figured only vice or misery (war, famine and disease) could keep the population down.
By "vice" he meant birth control. :D
07-31-2006, 08:30 PM
buckethead

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Originally posted by BigDaddy
PS- Last winter in VT sucked because of all the rain... many feel global warming has already ruined winter there. I'm buying stock in Water Country!

Indeed! I'd thought about moving to VT to get closer to the snow (than albany)...but i must say, having grown up downstate (NY) in the late 70s - we had tons more snow in the winters down there than there seems to have been in VT lately...these trends oviously swing cyclically, but it does seem like the colder climates have been retrating northward in my lifetime.

i was in VT nearly every w/e last season - and it was generally rare to see much snow away from the ski areas (it rained/thawed after nearly every big dump) in albany, we topped out at having (a little) snow on the ground for the second day after a snowfall once. almost hard to believe that in 02/03 we had a deep snowpack non-stop from christmas till late march...

ps. yea, i remember the hellstrom chronical...especially the scene with the ants carrying - i think - a lizard.
07-31-2006, 08:48 PM
iceman

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Originally Posted by David Witherspoon

BTW: Malthus was right. He figured only vice or misery (war, famine and disease) could keep the population down.
By "vice" he meant birth control. :D

Uh, last time I checked the population isn't exactly "down", but whatever.
07-31-2006, 08:51 PM
iceman

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Originally Posted by byates1

i understand this is how it works, cheers and smoke a dick, bitch:fuckyou: :the_finge

hahaha, well you're off to a good start then.

Too bad you'll never be able to teach your kids how to post, though. Oh well.
07-31-2006, 09:02 PM
Jer

Touché, ice. & pardon my loose use of language. Malthus would've said vice would "restrain" or "check" population growth. World population growth has slowed, as cj001f subtly pointed out.

Still growing, true. And I would be at risk of losing my Gloomer status if I didn't note that the true catastrophe will not be caused by a ~1% annual population growth rate, which would just cause a doubling of human impacts in 61 years.

It'll be caused by a 10% annual growth in consumption, which will double our impact in a mere 7 years.

Then double it again. And again andaginanagin ... :eek:
07-31-2006, 09:04 PM
byates1

:) :) :)
07-31-2006, 10:01 PM
mock1

wrong!!

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Originally Posted by AstroPax

I'll put my money on the cockroaches.

-Astro

your both wrong.
MAGGOTS!!!
yes! the maggots will turn into shit eating flies and leave shit tracks over everything they land on.;) ;) ;)
07-31-2006, 10:09 PM
buckethead

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originally posted by mock1
your both wrong.
MAGGOTS!!!
yes! the maggots will turn into shit eating flies and leave shit tracks over everything they land on.

wow, we've ironically found closure and a happy ending to an otherwise depressing topic/reality right under our noses;)

...and now back to our debate already in progress

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