1% ?? Come on Dawg.
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1% ?? Come on Dawg.
There's the answer to the original question. Expectations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crinkle
Personally, I think everyone here should start spreading the news. Colorado skiing is the worst in the west. We get NO snow, think 3 inches is a powder day, our terrain sucks. Utah is where its at. Where it never snows less than 4 feet per storm, the snow is lighter (a little lie here is OK for our purpose), they have easier easy terrain and harder expert terrain, and overall you get no better skiing anywhere in the world.
Maybe if we say it enough all the stupid tourists will go there. I-70 will cease to be a parking lot, lift lines on weekends will be down to nothing, and then we can listen to Utards bitch about how crowded it is.
Glad to see the data battle has gotten to water desity so quickly these days. That means everyone should be gettin' sum.
Midget, dude, haven't you got anything better to do? Get your @ss down here and do some skiing with us!
There's a little face of steeper and ungroomed off to the side of the Ranger lift at Keystone where I teach beginners. It's only about fifty feet, but nobody goes anywhere near it. In the afternoon, when my never evers get their wits about them, I put them at the top of this stretch, tell them to tuck up, and straightline down. :D About half of them will make it out to the groomer and half will wipe out. They all have eyes as big as saucers when they tell me how much fun it is and that they can't see their skis under the snow. Needless to say, this is not part of my psia curriculum, but it makes my day.
Even in "bad" seasons, I got my powder turns whenever I wanted them. Now I'm busy getting a whole new crowd hooked. Colorado Ski Academy kids from the front range. Little Texas and Florida kids. I love it. Bring em all.
Last time I checked, it was raining in Cali, Washington and Utah. It's not raining here, and I can go ski pow tomorrow. I haven't started "flapping" yet out of respect for all the other non-colorado maggots. Would you like me to start? STFU already.
All I know Is that I'm in Virginia right now and I am sooo FUCKING glad I don't have to live HERE. Enough with the pissing contest snow snob douchbaggery.
That's actually where this came from....I was thinking about going on a few trips but the snow's been shit all those places....so I started thinking about Colorado. I checked the snow totals expecting way more than what's reported cause of all the TR's on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by SheRa
Really, I was just trying to figure out the stoke!
Not trying to start any wars, but I think this thread sucks. Quit the whining and bickering about which state is better than others. It's lame.
If you stress out and have to start a thread about how much snow we don't have and how much better your snow is, then you are missing the whole point to this sport. Don't we all ski to have fun and challenge ourselves? It's not a competition. I could give two shits on how much snow has fallen, what the average density is over a 30 year period, who has the larger base, etc. I'm also tired of people shitting on our state because they had a terrible time and there was no fresh snow the last time they were here. If you don't want to come here to ski then don't make a debacle about it.
Heres my take having I think a pretty good perspective on Colo vs Utah as I live in CO and the inlaws are in Salt Lake which means typically 2 weeks at Xmas and a couple long weekends in UT every year for skiiing.
+ Utah - quantity of snow is better - they just get more snow than CO
+ Utah - access - 30 minute drive makes my 1:15 drive to B-pass or L-pass seem like drudgery
+ Utah - stability - because of the greater quantity and lower altitudes the snow is on average more stable allowing for more adventuresome touring - especially winter powder time
- Utah - quality of snow - sorry, but you DO get blower, but those lower altitudes do lead to heavier snow on average. Remember the big dumps last couple Decembers - heavy as shit - almost Sierra stuff. Of course with more snow - you get a lot of good snow
- Utah - well you're in Utah - Moron - I mean Mormons, gestapo police, fucking shit ass smog worse than just about anywhere - downright dangerous.
+ Colorado - quantity of terrain - the shear SF of terrain is larger - so when its good forget about it NO question where I'd rather be skiing
+ Colorado - quality of snow - on average the powder is lighter and drier in my experience - especially at higher altitudes
+ Colorado - length of season - esp spring and summer. When much of UT has gone sloppy and become limited - Colorado is often going off bigtime
- Colorado - Danger/Quantity of snow - the most dangerous place to ski is CO - of course that makes some real dedicated and educated skiers. The droughts here are terrible
- Colorado - People - I 70 is for shit if you dont play the game right. And forget about the resorts on weekends.
Um, are you talking about people or about the traffic?Quote:
Originally Posted by smitchell333
Damn good response, btw.
Agreed on all counts.Quote:
Originally Posted by iskibc
They're closed on weekends? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by smitchell333
Hehe, Brett hasn't been into East Vail yet this year. I'm guessing that the pull is getting stronger. I'm sure ready.Quote:
Originally Posted by midget
Bring yourself. I promise you will love it.
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What a stupid thread. Boo hiss.
DAAAAAMN GINA
ya'll need to stop being so defensive, I thought it was a super good question
I have to agree with iskibc here. Yeah, I am stoked as this is the best early season I can remember in CO since I have lived here, but I would still be skiing and probably have the same amount of days, etc. It is all about taking advantage of what you have, getting out, being stoked.Quote:
Originally Posted by iskibc
I type this as I sit in Virginia, watching rednecks roll around in huge trucks and seeing people psyched to go ski the ice ribbon of death at Wintergreen. They are stoked, just the same even though their terrain is not up to anything in CO, UT, or even NY for that matter.
Now, all of you who can ski today and tomorrow, get out there, quit bitching and have fun.
An answer posed as a question for Miget:
How much flapping would miget have done over the "summer" if instead of not snowing at all and bitterly sitting around and not even hitting the bars; storms rolled in every few days and blasted TC instead of being sunny and +10C every single day?
Come out to CO, I'm sure somebody can show you around and show you some snow and stuff.
I live in denver, I can have a jobby job, and I can ski some great snow and terrain with little more than an hour's drive...the rest is just gravy....
best ever?
no
reasonable cost of living with easy access to some great mountains?
yes
I'll take the latter
merry new year!!