Do Salomon heels suck (or is it just me)?

Nice write up Zom. I'm assuming you're doing torque tests to get this info. I haven't done that since I worked at the Stowe shop where we were required to torque every single binder that went out the door...new or old. The Look failed consistently not releasing withing the allotted range...always over. That never sat well with me for the average skier. Most "skiers" set their din to what they need, not some chart, so it's fine for those folks.

And riding an 18Din set at 8 makes no sense unless you got the binder for free. Why lug that extra weight around?

It seems Salomons are pretty sensitive to toe height setting. It can also come loose over time. Would be nice if they had some kind of automatic toe height like other companies. No, not the Z, not the strive garbage.

Update:

After yet another pre release where I narrowly avoided fucking up my knee, I brought the bindings to a shop to have them tested. Everything tested totally fine, so I think I'm just over Salomon heels. Will remount with pivots this week.

I skied STH[emoji638]’s for half a season before I had enough prereleases that I switched to pivots and attacks


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Originally Posted by fleaches

Update: After yet another pre release where I narrowly avoided fucking up my knee, I brought the bindings to a shop to have them tested. Everything tested totally fine, so I think I'm just over Salomon heels. Will remount with pivots this week.

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Sounds like your dins are set too low. If a shop checked your forward pressure, toe height and tested them in range, you need to run a higher din. Plenty of us extensively use the same binding with zero pre-releases. What is your din setting and height and weight? The chart only really works well for beginner and intermediate skiers

I normally ski a 9 with no problems on pivots, makers, and various touring bindings. I had the warden heels at 11. 6', 180lbs, 305 bsl.

The thing that has been concerning to me is that I wasn't getting pre releases when skiing super hard or aggressively, they'd just pop off really unexpectedly on small jumps or roll overs when I wasn't going particularly hard or fast (thank God). It was like any time that I leaned forward much beyond neutral.

Which wardens are you skiing? Your description of the heel just popping off sounds a forward pressure issue or a lack of elasticity if you are on the warden 11. I would be shocked if you had the same thing happen with the STH2s that you are hoarding.

Warden 13s, same heel as sth2s. I've checked the forward pressure a few times and the shop also thought they were good ?

Can definitely crank the din up a couple more but I'm very skeptical of them now.

Could also somehow be the ski/binding combo? I noticed a few other people mentioned this happened to them on BGs.

In the past I had a similar problem. Usually on a slow but abrupt compression the heels would release way too easily, even when set to [emoji637][emoji639]. I’ve heard that the first gen sth[emoji638] had a faulty heel construction but that doesn’t seem to be your problem, and I haven’t had the issue since that original version.