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i’m on the fence. maybe even coming around. i don’t want to die on this hill but click war per year and see how many active pitchers there are that are better than him.

they won’t continue to be as productive as he was but say they are. is he now a better fit in the hall of very good given that clase, bautista, crochet, holton, williams, etc are outperforming him at this random but current time?

that’s why i think i would have been in the 14% but im listening to why people think he’s a hall of famer.

In 2025 news, the Sox have made some big moves. If they get Bregman I think the east will be very competitive.

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I like that the Baseball HoF still seems to mean something when compared to the others (basketball is such a fucking joke) but it also tends to take itself entirely too seriously and debates like this one illustrate that.

Oh, you were a top ten XXXX in the history of this game? Sorry, you can't come in.

You weren't as good as the best ever XXXX in the history of the game? Benny's Hall of Very Good and Sports Bar and Grille is down the street, get the pickled eggs next to Ted Williams' frozen head.

Don't get me started on the voters.

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I always wondered where Ted’s head ended up


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big shoutout to my guy Jurickson Profar for getting that check today. Atlanta got them a good one.

3/$41M seems like a relative deal for the Bravos.

31 years old is old though.

Every year about this time I'm reminded of what a crime it is that more of that 1995 Indians team isn't in the HoF by now.

Kenny Lofton? Albert Belle? Manny (when does the roid cloud lift)? Omar (yes, Omar's off field issues are probably keeping Omar out, but the HoF is full of deplorable shitbags, isn't it supposed to be about baseball accomplishments?)...

Lofton should be in. Hershiser?

Bulldog? Probably not, but man he was fun to watch pitch. The scoreless innings streak deserves some consideration though.

yeah, he has such a short peak, and not enough counting stats great pitcher for awhile though.

Hopefully the veteran committee puts Lofton in. Kenny was really overshadowed by Griffey but the reality is that Griffey was riding on his Seattle reputation for the last half of his career (although he still had some pretty legit power).

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yeah, he has such a short peak, and not enough counting stats great pitcher for awhile though.

Hopefully the veteran committee puts Lofton in. Kenny was really overshadowed by Griffey but the reality is that Griffey was riding on his Seattle reputation for the last half of his career (although he still had some pretty legit power).

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Injuries caught up to him in his early 30’s, but what really hurt Griffey was that he stayed clean during the steroid era. But if you look at his stats he was still putting up an 850+ ops every year up until his 38 year old season. Pretty damn good considering all of the pitchers were juiced. And yes, 630 bombs and over 550 extra base hits would be considered legit power.

ages 30- 40, 2 cf:

- 1136 games 233 home runs 1.2war/season

- 1400 games 3.4war/season 91 home runs

How about Schilling? His numbers compare pretty favorably with CC

https://stathead.com//baseball/versu...edium=sr_xsite

Lofton should be in, agreed. Criminally underrated.

Schilling isn't because he pissed off all the writers. Not because he didn't deserve it on the field.

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Borderline. But you’re right. He’s an asshole.

But, if I had a vote, he’d get it. 3x 20 wins, >3000k, nails in the post season.


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ages 30- 40, 2 cf:

- 1136 games 233 home runs 1.2war/season

- 1400 games 3.4war/season 91 home runs

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I never asked about this one. Is one Lofton and the other Griffey?

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Schilling isn't because he pissed off all the writers. Not because he didn't deserve it on the field.

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This is my biggest complaint about the HoF: A bunch of thin-skinned "keepers of the game" gatekeeping guys who actually accomplished HoF-worthy shit on the field out for as long as they have a ballot.

Max Scherzer to the Jay's for a year. Didn't see that coming.

I like when the Jays make moves.

I just don't like it when we send our 2x Platinum Glove 2B to them. Oh well, another guy to like on that team I guess.

Can't wait to watch Gimenez play. I didn't know much about him when we got him but he sounds like a great addition.

If anyone is jonesing for some baseball the Caribbean Series just started. On MLB or streams are easy to find.

Never thought I would see a Steinbrenner throw in the towel before the season even starts....

" we cant spend like the Dodgers" despite having the highest revenue in baseball but " The payroll-to-revenue ratio reveals a gap. The Yankees sat at 52 percent in 2023, after the Dodgers, 67 percent and Phillies at 62 percent." why wont Hal spend the money? he needs an excuse as to why they cant finish.

They are and will remain NY's second team for years to come

Really? Did that other NY team make it to the series last year?


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I bet you get state legislatures being the force of change in baseball because baseball sure as shit isn't going to do it themselves (players or owners).

In the era of half-billion dollar contracts (and really even smaller ones), how long will politicians accept not getting their pound of flesh (tax revenue) on the whole deal and instead settling for a pittance thanks to deferred salaries?

Pete Alonso back to the Mets for what is basically 1yr, $30M.

In the summer of 2023, Pete reportedly turned down a 7/$158M offer and then hired Scott Boras. Whoops!

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I bet you get state legislatures being the force of change in baseball because baseball sure as shit isn't going to do it themselves (players or owners).

In the era of half-billion dollar contracts (and really even smaller ones), how long will politicians accept not getting their pound of flesh (tax revenue) on the whole deal and instead settling for a pittance thanks to deferred salaries?

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The last thing we need is government bureaucrats getting involved in baseball. And why would Baseball need to step in and fix something that doesn’t need fixing? I’ve never really understood all of the pearl clutching over deferred salaries. The NPV of the contract is used for salary tax purposes, the funds have to be in escrow within 2 years of earning, the owners and the union like them, and they don’t hurt the product on the field. What’s the issue?

And before anyone should crown the Mets as the kings of NY, they should take a long hard look at the history of the New York Mets. It’s going to take a lot more than one good off-season.

they have been the better franchise for a few years now.

ippei going away for 4 year 9 month. dont drop that soap, buddy!

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I really hate that you’ve put me into a position where I’m defending the Yankees, but by what metric have they been a better franchise? The Yankees were in the WS last year.

he is just being inflammatory. he knows damn well he is talking out of his ass.

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It’s the same bullshit from the guy who was harping about Judge being over rated.


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Pitchers and catchers started reporting yesterday.



In broadcast news, since the Bally Sports clusterfuck of 15 or so franchises' tv deals MLB has taken over production of a few team's broadcasts, the Guardos being one of them. In connection with that, MLB has removed local blackout restrictions as well. No big deal for those who are out of market like myself, but I hope that's a trend that catches on in every city. Stop trying to restrict how fans take in your product if you're worried about declining interest in the sport.

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Pitchers and catchers started reporting yesterday.



In broadcast news, since the Bally Sports clusterfuck of 15 or so franchises' tv deals MLB has taken over production of a few team's broadcasts, the Guardos being one of them. In connection with that, MLB has removed local blackout restrictions as well. No big deal for those who are out of market like myself, but I hope that's a trend that catches on in every city. Stop trying to restrict how fans take in your product if you're worried about declining interest in the sport.

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$99 a season is a price that you can’t complain about either.

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$99 a season is a price that you can&rsquo;t complain about either.

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Very true. It&#39;s $30 cheaper than the regular single team out of market package from MLB.tv and no local blackouts if you&#39;re in the market. That&#39;s a no brainer. One thing I like about the regular MLB.tv single game package that I normally get is that I also get all the other MLB radio broadcasts as well on the app. I wonder if that will be the case with this new Guardos-specific offering since it&#39;s through MLB after all.

In other I am so glad baseball is back news, it&#39;s time for Aaron Boone to start saying silly shit again and today was a strong one: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...yankees-win-ws

bregman to the sox. should be the best boston squad in awhile. not sure if it’s official but “the commissioner has made his report”

Bergman is good, but they way overpaid


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spring games start in 30 minutes with the cubs and dodgers, gonna see if i can find a way to watch.

Alias, i never found the best image for your new avatar, do you like this one of Fat Joe? I think it’ll do.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...cf02b56dd8.jpg

Considering that Fat Joe cursed the Yankees when he walked all over the mound in those big boots, I can accept that. Though I think I still can wait until opening day.

is that CC?

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is that my Grindr date?

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FIFY



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Dodgers just got smoked by the Cubs.

Fire Roberts!