3,000’+ per hour for 24 hours? Crazy to imagine but if you say so…Quote:
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3,000’+ per hour for 24 hours? Crazy to imagine but if you say so…Quote:
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Current record is 24,242 meters (79,534 feet) in 24 hours.Quote:
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A guy set the 24 hour record at our local hill 6 or 7 years ago. He did a bit over 61,000 feet in 24 hours. He was doing laps on a ~1000 vertical foot groomer - he picked it because it was the right grade, and was fairly consistent without too many changes in the grade. That run has lights on it too, so the resort lit it up for him. I think that record stood for a month or two before some euro guy beat it.
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Inbounds: yesterday, skiing solo through fairly tight trees all day after a 1' storm, 30k felt pretty big. I expect I could more than double that on groomers without feeling my legs as much, but it's rare that I do long groomer days.
Backcountry: 7k with some bootpacking and trail breaking feels plenty big.
Vert numbers are a pretty small component of what constitutes a big ski day. For backcountry, I can get 6k in 3 hours after work on the Emmas or West Porter following a well worn skintrack and skiing mellow terrain. A 3-4k day putting in a skintrack from the car somewhere that doesn't see much ski traffic, perhaps with a flat approach, bootpacking, and/or bushwhacking feels a lot bigger. Even in the resorts, you can get 30k lapping something like Collins, Peruvian or KT22 in an afternoon if there isn't fresh snow or tourist traffic clogging the lift lines, but a day hiking to terrain like Baldy Chutes and East Castle will feel bigger even if there is less vertical.
The Jackson Hole app can track vertical feet, and there's a leaderboard for those who use it. I have a friend who just turned 70 who is on the leaderboard averaging about 24K feet/day. I skied with him one of those days and it wasn't groomers.
When I used to ski kirkwood as my primary resort, I considered a big day (and the best days) as skiing long untracked inbounds powder runs. That usually meant some quick laps when chair six opened, then either starting to work the traverse into sentinel and palisades bowls or traversing around to the top of chair ten before it started loading, doing some laps on chair ten, and then working the traverse to palisades bowl area. On a big/good day, “working the traverse” meant that you would push the traverse out and break trail into the next untracked subdrainage until you finally got to doodle (the outer sign line). Skiing the palisades bowl took two lift rides to get back to your traverse and timing would depend on snow depth while breaking trail. I feel like an hour round trip was not unusual.
the ultra runner but shitty skier did 27500 in < 13hrs, buddy told me at the time he was maybe top 300 in the world as ultra runners go, so as he went sprinting by me on a blue slope I asked how was he doing ?Quote:
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Buddy looked at his watch and replied " GREAT 82% OF MAX HEART RATE ! "and so he did that for 13 hrs, he was fueled by 500ml bottles of Hammer perpetuem marked off so he made sure to drink 1/4 of a bottle every 15 min, he would do 6 hr training runs every friday
so buddy was actualy an ultra coach and he had quite a scientific approach, he said it was easier to make an ultra runner out of a just a plain old runner than to make an ultra runner out of a marathon runner becuz of different philosophies
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One perfect line where I get the goods and don’t fuck anything up.
I’m easy.
For bc I’m also in the 6k is a big day club. I can typically maintain 3-4k day after day for a few once I’m in mid season shape, but 6k requires more rest and food. The one exception is hut trips in Canada…there is something about the mellow skin tracks and the slow, long breaks, all day pace that makes big days there seem easier.
For resort, 12k can seem big if I’m lapping JP on a pow day. Top to bottom runs with no groomed to rest and typically bad/funky conditions in tight trees for the bottom third makes for athletic skiing. Add on to this that I’m usually going as fast and hard as possible to get the powder before it’s gone and 6 laps can be pretty tiring.
A proper inbounds day starts at 10k
A big day starts at 25k
Depends on where and how I'm skiing. At KW, if you end up finding good snow in certain places it can take a lot of lift time to lap. So that will cut down on your vert. At a place like Mammoth or Palisades with all their high speed lifts, I'm often aiming for 30-35k if skiing solo and lines are short. If with my kid, we typically are getting about 18-22k for a big day.
It's been a while since I've properly toured. So a big day these days would be 7 feet. But a decade ago, a big day would be about 6k.
Skiing is fun. My kid is now into tracking their vertical. I've kind of moved pass it and really just enjoy skiing. Been a good few days.
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At 68 I'm down to 6K tops and 3 - 4 average bc. Quit resorts when they invented detachable chairs.
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One where you need to get a lot of sleep before.
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66 laps on Pali at abasin over 10 hours was a big day last April
Breaking is different than broken tracks.
Efficient tracks with consistent angle are different than inefficient tracks with constant steep/flat variations, high energy moves, slips, branch grabs, and double pole moves.
Some people handle altitude better, acclimated or not.
Continuous skinning is different than laps. Breaks matter, also to keep up with nutrition and hydration. Pace matters.
Doing 5x1000ft laps between 7000 and 8000 is a lot easier for me than starting at 10,000 and going to 14,000
etc
So you havent shared with the rest of the class how many ft you have skinned in a day you fucking pussyQuote:
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I live vicariously through my kid, Grandpa.
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yeah you suck kid, you have no clue, yer out of yer element
Big day at Fernie ~40k...
Big day at Tyrol ~30 laps... ~9k
Skinning...
Big day starts around 5K vert, but it depends on the conditions, the drive to the mountain, and who you're with.
Actual big day usually starts around 8k vert or so. Most I've successfully toured is 12k.
This post killed me. We get the same thing over here at Pally Valley.Quote:
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You think you left the house early??? Try again.
3 hours later you're there, it sounds like WW3 with all the bombs going off, but somehow nothing is open by 11 am. You get in line for KT-22 only to realize that its going to be a 1-hour wait at best. After fist fighting someone who stepped on your skis, you finally get some tracked out pow that's as heavy as *great stuff* spray foam.
At 3:30 you decide to leave early to beat the traffic, and you miraculously make it to Truckee by 9 pm. Might as well sleep in the 7-11 parking lot and survive off roller grill taquitos next time.
Honestly, a day like that makes me so much more exhausted than any backcountry day under 8k.
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