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I can still see Bode at 08 WC miss the gate to come over fall away at Whistler on his uphill ski/ uphill edge somehow looking amazing/ in control/ better than everyone else when he should have been tangled up in a net, I'm still impressed
I have no idea about Bode the human but y'all sound like the guy complaining about Bob Redford to Gene Hackman in " Downhill Racer "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIn3PzcDc1g&t=712s
cool interview on his racing history and ski building etc
Whatever might be going on with the brand is happening way above Bode and Dav's level.
I have had dealings with both of them over the years. Chris Davenport is a stand up professional guy and Bode is "well, that's, Bode". It's a phrase you hear a lot in those circles.
Not a knock, it's just how it is.
You stand in the start gate and win and then you can tell him different. Pretty simple. Scoreboard.
Never skied on a pair of Peak Skis, but people do seem to like them.
I'm fond of saying that having a brand sponsor you is like having a job, a girlfriend or a credit card. Once you have one, you have a chance at another, but without one, it's a hard nut to crack.
Obviously, your results, being maggots, will vary.
I've never met Bode but have met a few that know him. He's definitely touched but apparently (was?) a nice guy to party with. Doing business, who knows, but based on this thread it doesn't sound good.
I know a guy who is similar maybe and possibly we all do. Love to go out and drink and have fun with him. He's a ripping snowboarder, surfer, and former pro skater toured the country with coke or Pepsi, anyway great fun guy. Business dealings...forget it! Won't go near him. He's horrible and an asshat. It's weird. But all of us that know him know, so we just deal with him on a social level and keep on keepin on.
Thanks for that. It's obviously a Peak commercial, but still very informative about his process. I had no idea he was that involved with K2 and Fischer. I guess I'm young.Quote:
Originally Posted by byates1
Anyway, I think the "Key Hole" marketing fiasco is what's getting lost in the translation. Volkl broke up their top layer of Titanal for the Mantra series, and then extended it to other skis. Blizzard followed suit with Anomaly. K2 is trying to figure out their Y-Beam concept. It seems like Bode is trying to reduce torsion in the same place as every other ski manufacturer.
But his "dumb as a rock" speech makes it sound like-- "Just drill a hole in the metal in front of the binding." (BTW, Bode, I'm dumb as a rock, that wasn't a dig.)
IDK, that video did nothing other than inspire me to try a pair of his skis. Racing for decades on broken ankles and telling other ski manufacturers that he quits because they won't let him design skis the way he wants to is FKNA American.
He's always been an icon in my world... I just had no idea he had so much input into the builds from day one. I had no idea he designed the Merlin V, with his own hands. /mind-blown.
I think he brought Dav in for marketing. NTTAWWT. Both Bode and Dav in an R&D relationship is super cool to me. I hope whatever dust rustling their startup feathers settles down.
And it's not gonna work to call any of them a douchebag anymore. I'm a douchebag. Your insults don't hurt. Squaw has nothing to do with Peak. If anything, lessons learned, water under the bridge, and all that.
(But, Dav--- next time you all shoot a promotional video [that should definitely be more than a minute long], take off your other sponsorship obligations.)
Go skiing. Hire a drone. Pay some measly money and get your word out. Go ski some rad shit. And saw your ski in half. Who does that anymore? "Everyone is going to copy you." ... So, give them something to look at! Don't be afraid of being copied. Say-- "Copy me."
No one said Squaw had anything to do with peak - it has to do with Wirth being an untrustworthy POS.
Well said, TahoeJ.
It has been spelled out as much as possible. But there is no getting through to some people. Some people just want to believe I guess. Sigh.
Heard from a trusted source, it’s over.
Rebranding as nadir skis
Yup. Wanted to believe. Oh well.
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I drive by it every day. No cars hardly ever. The building is super sweet and chic. And void of bustle.
How the fuck do you launch that and maintain it for hardly a calendar year. Wtf.
Also, how do you afford to live in Spanish peaks w 20 children
It's amazing what you can spend and how you can live with other people's money.
I hope this is the last hurrah for Bode and Andy, but if history is any guide there will be another business venture built on in investor capital in the not too distant future. As Barnum once said, there is a sucker born every minute.
Dude, keyhole BEHIND the binding. Holy shit...
Weird I keep getting bombarded with social media ads if they are truly folding.
A little bird just told me they have paid for all their skis, are not making payroll, but have a plan. Sounds solid;)
I have a feeling the plan is probably to try and find more investors, errrr, I mean suckers to fund this revolutionary ski company.
Sad, is it time to re tell the Bomber story?
You mean this part of his saga with Bomber or something else?
https://www.durangoherald.com/articl...ber-equipment/
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Yeah. I mean-- probably. All of you posters' assumptions that we all (globally) follow Bode's contracts is kind of absurd.Quote:
Originally Posted by iriponsnow
Help a brother out-- just take your irate frustration and type up a simple presentation that schools idiots like me.
Otherwise, this entire thread reads: "We don't like them. And, you're an idiot for not understanding why."
I mean-- you're not wrong. But you're not convincing, either.
And I'm completely willing to accept that this conversation is amongst you all, and the rest of us aren't really privy to being in the room.
/apologetically-ducks-out-the-office-door.
Bruh, chill TF out!Quote:
Originally Posted by gaijin
When Bode took over Bomber, the skis were built in a factory I imported from. Short version, Bode / Bomber cut every corner whilst claiming to be top shelf / revolutionary. It backfired when they were harvesting rejected cores / materials from other companies to keep costs down.
Enter Peak - same playbook. Claim to be revolutionary whilst just drilling a hole in some pre- existing Elans to contain cost.
Gaijan, did you not read all those failed ventures I listed where Bode pimps hid name hard, it fails, and on to the next one?
Between Bomber and Peak was Crosson skis that lasted about a year.
Watch this interview Gaijan. The brother is completely full of shit. Oh, and by the way if you do watch this and you wonder why he goes on a long tangent about Skieo it's because he started that joke too. Course he doesn't mentions he owns it as he pumps that up. Skieo another joke where Bode convinced people to invest in and then folds while Bode collects on it. Wake the fuck up, bro. We can't spell this out any clearer. Watch this joke of an interview that took place December 2020. If this doesn't get you over the line about what we are talking about there is no hope for you.
https://youtu.be/cWzkzxzJpks?si=1Yr2qfd_fsR_rVup
Sorry guys. I just was never following the failed startups. Not trying to be a dick about it. I just never gave a shit.
I was bummed to learn a hero of mine is purposely crashing startups.
My bad.
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He’s a hell of an athlete & changed the game. I still love him for the interview where he disclosed that he refuses to re-use socks- ever!Quote:
Originally Posted by gaijin
I find the lack of 333 references disturbing.
Lol^
Inflation. 999 skis
JE from Blister did a pretty good job pressing Bode on that ridiculous Keyhole Teknology(tm) on the gear30 podcast. Kept it friendly and let Bode talk his way in to the role of grifter snake oil salesman. I know other brands market ridiculous "Technologies" as well, but Bode's explanation of the keyhole tech sounded so dumb and unbelievable, and you could tell he didn't really believe in it either.
All that aside, I guess the product was still decent if not unique, because reviews seemed generally positive.
I've played in the venture capital world. I raised a solid 20mil after the seed-capitalists bought 4 other resorts for 10m. They brought me in to build a commercial.
I could expand on that story forever... but what we're talking about here is making me irate.
So, this guy is just starting fake ski companies via angel/seed investors and then just walking away?
Now that you've all explained it all, I get it. He's securing seed-capital and then just closing shop.
I apologize. I get it.
He's playing the legal contracts to legally fail... and then repeat that process with the next round of angel investors.
And this is why you're all calling him a piece of shit. Sorry it took me a moment, but now I get it.
He's mastered the pitch and the exit without ever committing.
Sorry, I wasn't listening before.
Just to pile on, he started a school too that was supposed to be a master ski academy & that went bust too.
Gaijin,
Nah, he doesn't purposely tank his startups. Rather he is full of shit, and will do anything to make a buck, and is more akin to a snakeoil salesman.
Nothing he is involved in business wise survives, and he has done many. Iriponsnow, the academy he was involved in with that other shitbag Andy Wirth never even got off the ground. It failed before it even started.
They are shameless snakeoil peddlers that first and foremost are motivated by lining their pockets rather than actually creating anything long-lasting.
Technically they don't do anything illegal although I believe they have shamelessly lined their pockets on the back of others people money who they somehow convince to do business and invest in them.
As I said, there is a sucker born every minute but hopefully Peak is the last hurrah for both of these shitbags.
Wasn’t that academy going to be at Granby Ranch?
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Why yes it was. None other than a Bode Miller and Andy Wirth production. And when they canceled it they said it was only a matter of time when they would try another location.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skistack
These two grifters decided it was easier to raise money and line their pockets by forming Peak skis I guess.
https://www.summitdaily.com/news/bod...-granby-ranch/
What is your personal experience with Bode or any of his businesses? This sounds pissy and personal.Quote:
Originally Posted by googledidoo
So Bode leverages his racing history to attract investors who all willingly try to capitalize on it. Who fucking cares! Did you invest in one of these companies and now feel harmed?
A whole bunch of dentists on Peak skis seem happy.
I’d rather see a skier fleece rich guys than the other way around. Bode was rad to watch race.
So, Bode is just the Trump of skiing making his money by losing other people's?
Trump made money by ripping off his contractors.
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-tha...n-his-projects
Y'all have a point. What is more American than doing whatever it takes to make a buck, even if it involves dishonesty. Those idiots that got fleeced need to smarten up. And maybe we shouldn't feel sorry for anyone that's even dumber than Bode I guess.
God Bless America, and daggumit, Bode for President in 2028. As long as we're electing shitbags for president, let's elect one that can ski for Christ sakes.
I believe an investment is only an investment if it carries some form of risk and reward.
Bode has six Olympic medals. I think the next closest president is Clinton with one blowjob, at least in recent years. Think about it. Bode '28.
If someone wants to invest in Keyhole technology, well, land of the free and home of the brave. I doubt many pension funds, contractors looking for payment for work completed, or teachers unions put money into Peak. Or Bomber. Or a ski academy. Some might say it smells like jealousy up in this elitist sports forum where we normally talk where upstate is, what real estate to carry our hedonistic pow days dreams on the cheap, or what colorway (we even can't use common language and say color to coordinate clamps and planks) to pick for our P15s should be on the next set of custom skis because we need a "use case" to justify the n+1 pair of skis in our shopping carts... yeah, go Bode.
Haven't skied Peaks yet but would give them a go if the opportunity presented itself.
Weird how Vail fucks small towns, IKON ruins everything, TGR opens a hotel, and we're mad at a guy for making some scratch off people with enough money to flush it on a company like Peak.