It jus beQuote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn
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It jus beQuote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn
Counterpoint: those of us from the Church of Stack wonder why all the 35mm rise bars instead of 40mm.
Also, why do only Renthal & Truvativ make 7 degree sweep bars? I like the more aggressive position it puts my arms in, but Renthals make my hands cry.
I put on some SC 800 carbon bars. Didn't fix me but seems to be more better, or it's all in my head... Also I've never had carbon and am paranoid I'm going to snap them.
SC bars appear to be *very* similar to OneUps, which isn't surprising since they have the same parent company. I'm sure there's some slight differences, but the shape profile is the same.
It helped me to put the pressure on the thick heel of my palm ( instead of having the bar along my first knuckles, where theres not much meat) - I thought it might be similar to how you're meant to hold a sword and looks like it just might be...
https://www.hanbonforge.com/BLOG/How...word-correctly
Anyone have any feedback on Cannondale branded bars? I'd like a tad more width, but the price is right.
https://planetcyclery.com/components...35x800mm-black
I think a lot of my front end stiffness is coming from my Deity stems. I noticed it right away when I went to one on my hardtail with 31.8mm aluminum bars. I like them though. Aside from the fact that they're pretty, they have 5mm hardware so I'm less likely to hamfistedly strip anything when messing with my bar roll like a crazy person. Also, the low stack height helps me get the bars as low as I can on 1 bike and high as I can on the other. Because obviously, I'm insane.
Nope. Just too easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn
You may not think that's how it is, but it be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roxtar
Wait, are we still doing that?
And by front end stiffness, I'm obviously not referring to actual bike/fork flex, I just didn't have a better word for what I feel with stiff bar/stem combo. I'm thinking I should just try some GA2 fats. Maybe put them on both bikes if I like them. Trying to get pedals/seat/grips to be the same on both, so of course 2 Silverado Chromoly Narrow seats are different padding. [emoji849]
If you ever rode motos, you know about Oury Grips.
They're the most, softest, and grippiest rubber you can put on on a normal diameter grip.
(If you think vibration is an issue when mountain biking, try riding with a 600cc single roaring away. As usual with mountain bike tech, the motorcycle guys figured it out decades ago.)
You can get them in MTB versions with no inner or outer flanges, and in both single and dual clamp lock-ons.
https://www.lizardskins.com/oury
I prefer the no flange, no lock on version: as mentioned before, lock-ons don't absorb vibrations nearly as well because part of the rubber gets traded for the plastic sleeve.
They come in a bunch of crazy colors, including glow in the dark, but I usually run basic black.
These might be a good solution for those who don't like the feel of silicone foam grips.
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/02...g?v=1701112507
Those were my grip of choice for many years. Don't even remember why I stopped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spats
My new eeb came with the Santa Cruz e-carbon bars, and I gave them a try because they appeared pretty similar to OneUp (oval center area). I found them to be a lot less compliant. I suspect the cause is the SC ones stay thicker out until the top of the rise, whereas OneUp tapers down in diameter much earlier (start of the rise). The SC are also listed as an 8.5 degree backsweep (vs. 8 OneUp), but the difference felt more than that. I went back to OneUp and things felt much better first ride.
Also, while they're pricey (though not RevGrip pricey), I'm a huge fan of the new Ergon GDH grips. They combine a lot of the features of my favorite grips: ODI Elite Pros & DMR Deathgrips. They have the offset rubber thickness on the top and soft cushioned outer edge from the Deathgrips, and the palm filling oval and plastic end protector from the Elite Pros. The rubber is nice and damp feeling, but isn't wearing out under the heel of my palm like Deathgrips do. And the plastic end protector is much narrower & sticks out from the grip (compared to ODI), so that it doesn't act as a pressure point under the outer flange, and also makes contact with the dirt/trees before the rubber.
So one thing that doesn't seem to have been mentioned in here - fit.
If your hands are going numb it's probably because you have too much weight on them. Saddle could be too forward or nosed down. Might be worth starting by moving the seat just slightly back, slightly flatter, and a touch lower to compensate (moving the seat back also moves it farther from the BB).
But I suppose with modern steep STA bikes it can be hard to get in a more balanced position especially riding on flatter/rolling terrain. Personally if i feel just slightly too far forward on flat ground it tends to work pretty well actually on trails and climbing.
no where does " YMMV " apply more than bike fit, I know seat forward/ nose high/thin grips work best for me
I put my saddle flat cuz i read its better but it wasn't, after changing from flat saddle to nose 1" high a world class road coach told me " yeah you look better on the bike " and she would have looked at some asses in her career
but every asshole is different
Those GDH's look nice. Unfortunately appear to be out of stock everywhere. I have some GD1's that I like better than most grips, so I might end up with another set of those.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andeh
I was able to order them direct from Ergon USA. Haven't found them anywhere else.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
Another path, that yields similar shapes as the ergon grips, is going with uniformly tapered grips.
The new-ish Raceface Chester 34mm grip is the same diameter inside and outside as the GA2 Fat, but due to a more uniform round shape, takes less screwing around to find the **exact** right positioning. The RF chester also ride much smoother in the hand, as the ergons have fairly thick plastic cores in comparison.
Long story short, my destroyed wrists are LOVING the combo of the Chester grips with PNW Loam 10* backsweep bars. Takes so much pressure off the joint and hands both up and down.
Probably because for a long time they only came with the inner flanges which you had to cut off, and didn't have a lock-on version. Might be worth trying again!Quote:
Originally Posted by Roxtar
Here's an old moto racer tip for any grip, like Ourys or Ergons, that covers the end of the bar: drop a penny inside before mounting them. It won't stop the end of the grip from getting chewed up, but it'll stop the bar end from getting damaged. It's like putting an end cap inside the grip.
Ooh, less fiddling. I could get behind that concept.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshal Olson
New ODI Vanquish grips using D30 for anti-vibration and shock absorption.
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/odi-la...-compound.html
https://www.odigrips.com/products/va...on-grips-135mm
The lovely Mrs EWG has been searching for a grip solution for a while due to wrist pain. Rocky tech downhills cause the issues. She already has ODIs and I was thinking that was about as cushy as she could get, but they're lock-ons. Nice "duh" reminder here that slipions will be cushier. I think I'm gonna try that for her. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spats