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So, back from 2 weeks riding in Utah. started Vernal, goodwater rim, Thunder, east Zion, and HUrricane area
Other bikes are 17 pound single speed with 100mm SID and 180/160 travel rocky altitude.
So this element is the C70 build, full XT parts. Added a stans podium wheels (1300g) as I'm a little guy and cuz I can
Overall really impressed. Its not a light / fast as my SS but VERY close. Nice to have the light wheels, but gears and way more modern angles. IE a bit slower on JEM trails or good water, but made it fun on the bits of jumps and rolls on the way down. Also just so much more relaxing to ride
Its not as big travel as my other rocky, but 10? pounds lighter. Maybe not as able to smash thru Rojo in Vernal, but was still fine on the tech stuff and any rock tech stuff. I think it would be more limited for graften DH stuff and for more of a "hulk smash" type rider. But slackn the angles and its fine on steep down stuff. Not as scarry as expected.
So overall its NOT a replacement for either, but it SURE fills in the middle ground where the other bikes are over/under gunned.
Now time to clean off a LOT of red dust on it.
Bamboo core/others - does anyone know when the specs of 2024 Rocky’s might be released? I’m still hunting for an Element frame - wondering what colors the 24’s will have and will they have in frame storage Thanks!
Yeah - I’m happy with what the current one offers with regards to carrying capacity - but I do like in frame storage - and I don’t care much for the green color scheme on the used models I’m seeing in my size.
New color for next year is called "bone", it's the same style as the current one (think mostly one color and then a bit of a second color toward the head tube) in a light beige color with some light grey toward the head tube. It looks incredibly good IMO. I'm getting a new altitude for bike park n such (which is a totally new design, get stoked for that), so I'm going to build the new element super light for XC racing. Should look dope with the blue SID fork, silver/blue magura mt trail sl brakes, and light bicycle rims laced with berd spokes to silver i9 hubs.
Funny how much being able to have two easy access bottles in the front triangle is such an amazing feature to have. Also nice that you can fit two 26oz bottles vs 22oz bottles like most other xc frames, I'm able to have only the two bottles in the frame with none in my jersey pockets for xc races which feels nice on the back. For every day riding I only use to the top bottle spot and it's super easy to reach.
Also a sick frame for bikepacking, so much room to have lots of options for frame bags.
Ooh man that does sound nice. I too am looking to build it up as a lightweight rocket ship. Thanks for the info!
I have gone the opposite and built a BC Edition... Float X, 30mm ID WAO Wheels, EEwings, 4 Piston Brakes.
That's how my current build is. Beefier i9 trail 280c wheels, pike ultimate, g2 ult brakes.
I will be selling my large orange frame come spring when my new frame comes in if anyone ends up being interested. It'll come with a brand new front triangle and chainstay so basically 1 2/3 frame (I did a paint warranty on those two pieces since there was a couple bubbles from the factory, but never ended up switching them on)
One way the Element saved so much weight is that it has quite small diameter downtubes and top tubes. (Also how they are able to fit two individual liter bottles).
There is really no room for a lunchbox that is big enough to be worth the retooling, IMO.Attachment 477436
Makes sense.
is rockying making a SL version in factory?
Or are you playing and making it custom?
I've only seen the catalogue picture and hot damn that looks even better in person. My frame is supposed to get here early April along with my new altitude. This and buying a house in the spring have me wanting winter to fly by and be done already, which is probably the first time in my life I've said that haha
I did forget to mention they're bring back the C99 builds back for next year and each one has it's own special color. The element is this rad looking dark blue with black accents and silver logo. They'll be built with full xx transmission, flight attendant suspension, the works.. all for the low low low price tag of $12k
Not sure if you’re talking to me or bamboocore - my plan is to buy a frame (new or used) and build up to be a lightweight XC rocket - both to have a Ferrari in the bike stable but also to hone my bike building/maintenance skills. I have a bigger bike that keeps me out of trouble on the steeper stuff.
Are there any details that can be shared about the new Altitude?
Whole new linkage design is the main thing and the usual slackening
Element storage:
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Top cage fits a 750 or 1000ml bottle
Bottom cage fits 650-750ml bottle (with pump on the side of the cage)
below that is a tool wrap attached with granite portaledge and a ski strap. (multi tool, hanger, CO2, multi tool, spare bolts/cleats etc)
https://granite-design.com/products/portaledge-xe
I have ridden all three. I would go with the rocky mountain because they took very good care of me on a warranty issue a few years ago. For me the transition was better at jank, and the rocky was more poppy. The trek was probably set up with too much sag in retrospect. it felt glued to the ground. These all are probably related to suspension set up, which was not thought out on a ride on someone else's bike.
Finally, whomever said take the one that is the best deal is probably right. All in, the differences are down to nuance that could be overcome with an angle set or token.