I'm a fan of the Bull Terrier, but this is scary.

from yesterday's calgary news:

CFCN.ca
Posted at Monday, September 19, 2005 6:23 PM
The city is investigating a dog attack in southeast Calgary.

A pit bull attacked another dog being walked by an elderly man in Lake Chaparral. Witnesses say the pit bull was running free when it attacked a black lab. Workers at a nearby construction crew tried to stop the pit bull by hitting it with sticks. They were unsuccessful until another man jumped out of vehicle and hit the dog with a shovel several times until it backed off. Animal Services seized the animal after the attack.

A vet is treating the black lab. Its condition is unknown but it is expected to survive.

the owner of the attacking dog was shown of the tv report saying she wanted her dog put down (perhaps because she was afraid of litigation?). "i've never expected that".

Likwid,

Please do let me know where I'm "wrong"...

Jayfrizzo said he did not believe dogs were capable of doing catch work with Bulls...

While no Bulls were yet pictured being worked by dogs (Have photographic evidence to support this fact should it be asked for specifically.) I assumed the material I included would illustrate this point?

f2f... First point that jumps out at me...

"Witnesses say the pit bull was running free when"

Had simple confinement and leash laws been observed, it seems another tragedy might have been avoided?

Yet the woman is afraid of litigation? She should get her ass tossed in jail for breaking leash laws and negligence.

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Originally Posted by flabango

No offense Nate Dogg but this reeks of the illusive somewhat oxymoronish trifecta. You get 100 points!

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Sorry but I wasn't clear - pitbulls, without proper training, tend to exhibit a lot of animal aggression...not human aggression. That is the "dangerous" part of the breed...pitbulls that are taught how to behave around animals and are comfortable in a variety of situations (only accomplished through exposure) are fine as pets. Hopefully that clarifies it...maybe not tho. :confused:

when i return to earth all animals shall live in peace

that is all....

So I don't post here much, but this thread has touched a nerve.

Full disclosure - I am a pit bull owner and will always be one.

It is very easy to look at the majority of dog attacks and fatalities are caused from pit bulls and draw the conclusion they are a dangerous breed. I for one have my own theory. Many people, both good and bad, believe this stereotype to be true, that pits are dangerous. The people who want to be all "gansta" opt to get a pit bull and train them to be an attack dog. These irresponsible owners then lose control of a trained attack dog and when it is free and not under control, it will follow it's training and attack people, other animals, whatever. Then we see the headlines. Which then in turn inspires more gangsta's to get pit's, you see where this is going. It's self fulfilling.

Let us not forget that German Shepards were the attack dog of the German Army. Any dog of substantial size can be trained to attack and kill.

I believe what Miami, Denver, and Cincinnati have done is wrong. It's the wrong answer to the problem. You want to stop pit bull attacks? Crack down on the people training them.

As for the picture, I don't know how these particular dogs were trained, but given they seem exceedingly thin, my guess is they had been without food for some time. The bull may have been near death anyways, which animals can sense; it could have been a good meal. Do we have validation that the sequence of events described in the original story are correct? I've seen too many embellished stories to not be a cynic. And this is the kind of story that someone could twist to make a good headline.

Sorry to rant, but I fight this stuff every day. All for this...Vicious



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Cute pup!
even if he CAN'T fly.

My dog Summit was so pissed off at me for making her hike up to 13,300 feet to a shale covered ridge that contained no sheep, no summit, and nothing whatsoever to bark at she ended up ignoring me for the next 36 hours.

I retaliated by withholding her normal feedings of gourmet Wal-Mart Ole Roy dry dog food. Halfway through the second day, she gave up and paid me some attention. I relented and threw her a few pebbles of food, and were back to being friends again now.

Dogs of any breed can be vial if pushed to their limits, as my Shetland Sheepdog proved just this past weekend with this cruel silent treatment.

nate

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Originally Posted by Bandogge

Jayfrizzo said he did not believe dogs were capable of doing catch work with Bulls...

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I was joking. You said that dogs will hold onto a cow's ear or jowel so it can be inoculated or tied. I said that if a dog is dangling from a cow's ear it's not going to sit still long enough to be tied.

However, judging by your pics and info I guess the point of the ear or jowel hold is to kill the cow. It's way easy to tie a dead cow I bet.

So, cool.

Jayfrizzo:

"I guess the point of the ear or jowel hold is to kill the cow"

Again, minimal research would tell you that is not the case at all. Had you bothered to read the quoted article I posted, you might have taken in the following:

"when cattle would break and run the cowboy would send his bulldog on the cow and the bulldog would catch the cow by the nose or ear and toss the cow. When the bulldog was called off, the bulldog would drive the cow back to their herd and the bulldog would then circle and bay the herd "

or

"The farmer would use these bulldogs not only for cattle but also to catch and hold wild hogs in order to mark the hog, (usually a notch in the hogs ear) to declare ownership."

I contend you read the material I posted before you try to next raise conflict with my contribution(s).

Pardon my ignorance but if a bulldog tried to toss a cow by its ear, wouldn't it just rip the ear off?

Bad_roo,

Nope... Although some damage to the ear does occur... The physics involved do not lend the entire weight of the cattle on it's ear... Running forward, grabbed by the jowl or ear and forced head down, the momentum still in the animal forces it ass over tea kettle.

Don't get around my golden retriever when he's eating his evening grub, he'll knock the dog shit (no pun intended) outta ya.

Rock solid cool dude anytime else.....just don't F with his dinner bowl.

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Originally Posted by bad_roo

Pardon my ignorance but if a bulldog tried to toss a cow by its ear, wouldn't it just rip the ear off?

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This isn't the first time I wished I had photoshop skillz.