Heat stroke
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Heat stroke
I imagine there will be more info, once the Group Found story gets matched up with its corresponding Group Lost story.
Being close to a popular snowmobile route might not have helped if there was a big enough weather event that snowmobilers weren't getting out much. I recall a hypothermia fatality (one or two other group members survived; inexperienced XC skiers wearing blue jeans) close to Castle Pass in CA, 2 miles, all downhill, to Interstate 80 via one of the country's most popular ski/snowshoe/posthole trails, (and one mile from a then-unlocked Sierra Club hut); but with a storm having just rolled in, all those other recreationists ditched the area and the guys were on their own long enough to get into trouble.
People keep saying this or that was close by, but like with McCandless, if you don't know shit is there it might as well be a million miles away.
Yeah. Setting aside McCandless (who purposely didn't bring maps, as part of his adventure concept), it seems like most people these days rely on electronic maps and navigation, if anything. And smartphones have a tendency to die suddenly and unexpectedly in cold weather.
SJG, do you think lax firearm laws and unlocked cars were a contributing factor?
Depends on if they were vaxxed I reckon...
McCandless didn’t die because he didn’t know where he was; he died from malnutrition and underestimating how big the river he needed to cross would be during melt.
It’s been a long time since I read the book, but I think you’re correct that he didn’t bring communication devices as that would be “cheating.”
Dude made it quite a while without much. Seems like apples and oranges to compare a truly wild locale in Alaska with a FS road a few miles outside of Pitkin.
Side note, myself and a lot of other outdoor enthusiasts know those woods reasonably well because I spent a month there getting a Wilderness EMT. The Wilderness Medicine Institute used to call Pitkin home.
Hemlock garnish.
That's my recollection as well
Maybe. I stand corrected.
Still, quite a bit more isolated that Pitkin.
These folks were 3 miles on a dirt road away from a town.
Darwin got three aces in that hand is my overview.
I got my EMT and a lot of pinstripes on my truck there back in the day. Great course, nice locale. Was wondering if they were still up there.
IIRC malnutrition was definitely a factor but McCandless had also poisoned himself with what he thought were wild potatoes that were alkaline? The River was an issue but in the end he was too weak to walk anyway.
I'm gonna go with food poisoning
I'm going with love triangle gone bad (don't they all?)
Lovers camp out instead of hitting a no-tell motel, jilted partner tracks them down and shoots them, then pulls the plug not far away.
My first thought was they od'd on something laced with fentanyl but maybe a bad dose of shrooms.
I'm not saying it was aliens...
I’m going with aliens, it’s close enough to the San Luis Valley
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Malnutrition…. I wonder if they were a group of 4 at one point….
I use to work at Barr Camp on Pike's Peak back in the 90''s right when Into the Wild came out. The amount of people that wandered up above tree line during lightning storms, wanted to ski Bottomless Pit after a big snowfall, or just wanted to walked barefoot to the summit was an every day occurrence.
Monty Python. Love it.
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I’ve had 4 shots and haven’t had covid. How am I supposed to transmit it if I can’t even seem to get it? An asymptomatic case isn’t gonna have me sniffling and coughing out virus for others to get. I feel shortchanged.
And my immune system is still working 2 years later. When does the gene therapy I was promised start?
These three campers got it. When do the rest of us get that sweet 5G nano chip activation? I’ve got shows to stream!
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How much snow did that area get this last winter?
this is a perfect way to sum all this shit up thanks
and yeah everyone should go read (or reread) into the wild and the stranger in the woods
alot like almost everyone doesn't have what it takes to surivive once fear kicks in once shit goes sideways your way of thinking goes just as quickly