If there is a service fee, don’t tip. Simple.
Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums
Printable View
If there is a service fee, don’t tip. Simple.
Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums
I think zip code man is still around.Quote:
Originally Posted by warthog
If I am going out for a sit down dinner I understand that tipping is currently a part of the equation. Same with going to a bar for drinks. Other than that, fuck right off. And the day will come when the equation changes and tipping becomes purely optional for the former two.
And furthermore, WTF is with the request to give to an organization I have never heard of when I check out at the grocery store? If it was the local Food Bank? Sure I will donate 10% of what I spent, otherwise.
RIP Clarinet Guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vt-Freeheel
ALSO often times this doesn't all go to the staff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elkhound Odin
If the price is listed in total on the menu I can quickly determine if I want to pay it. Most places in the world don't do tips but service industry can expect a higher quality of life than they can afford here in the US. I'd prefer to just be told what it's going to cost up front.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsy
The mandatory 20% service charge places are the worst though - just mark up all the food prices by 20%. While we're at it, can we just get the mobile credit card terminals already like the rest of the world?
Yeah, I've heard this forever from certain tipped workers, but using the same logic the response should be if you can't afford to live on your untipped wage get a better job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsy
Tipping has expanded to all sorts of things that never used to be tipped, and the standard for some reason has moved from 15% (in NYC the easy approximation for figuring a tip was always to just double the tax, which was 8%) to 20+, even as prices have gone up (which of course means 15% itself is that much more than it used to be). It's bullshit for business owners, many of whom are now more profitable than ever, to shift payment of workers to people who are often less able to subsidize the workers--inflation these days is actually way less about supply chain/raw material costs than profit taking.
Was very happy to eat at a place the other night that doesn't do tips--they pay significantly more than other restaurants so their workers don't need to be dependent on tips. And somehow their prices were pretty much in line with other places where you would ordinarily add an extra 18 or 20% to your bill, so go figure. Pretty easy for me to understand why people are fed up, much as I sympathize with underpaid service industry types.
Pubic cake, wtf is wrong with you people.Quote:
Originally Posted by BmillsSkier
Local joint two doors down from me has the ipad deal gets a round up tip to the nearest 5, so a 21 dollar take out is getting an extra 4 bucks. They know my kid and I by name and give him free cannolis from time to time, so it is justified in my mind as going above and beyond.
Another place the town over has suggested tip options when you pay with those handheld card machines that start at 22% and go up to 35%. 35% percent gets a stern fuck off from me and I make them only put in 15 just for having the gall to ask, and after getting shit last time I'm not going back.
That's an impressive trick. The only zip code trivia I know is that both the highest and lowest are in Alaska.Quote:
Originally Posted by warthog
On the flip side, I recently REWARDED my usual barista at my favorite coffee shop I go to sometimes by my kids school. I noticed that in probably the couple dozen times she served me (both drive-thru and walk-in), she would literally hit skip on the tipping part and never mentioned it, never said the now typical "the screen's gonna ask you a couple questions," nothing. She was always above and beyond cheerful, provided excellent service, and seemed to go out of her way to not request tips. I'd usually toss a dollar in the tip jar anyway, but I appreciated her approach so much I slipped her a 20 last time I saw her and thanked her for her always outstanding attitude and quality service.
THAT'S how it's done, service workers!
I don't get the whole "tip your barista" thing. Last time I checked I was paying for a fucking coffee, not your labor wages.
Same shit goes for sandwich shops/delis in town. I'm purchasing a sandwich, I'm not paying for you to make the sandwich, that's your boss's job.
Forced tipping
That's what happened to me
Ordered a pie from Papa Murphy's, clicked place order without scrolling to the bottom of the page, they conveniently have the 15% tip box pre-checked
And if you uncheck it somebody is going to spit on your pizza [emoji3]Quote:
Originally Posted by k2skier112
If there is a mandatory service charge I assume that's going to the server or to the server and back of the house and I wouldn't tip. (None of the places I eat at have that though.) It's not my job to figure out if the service charge is going to the boss or the workers. Otherwise I tip a standard 20-25% regardless of the level of service (higher percentage for cheaper meals). I just figure that's part of the cost of eating out. As far as tipping for takeout, etc--given the cost of living here I tip pretty liberally if there's any work done to prepare an order or do a service for me. I draw the line at tipping the checkout at the little market--just ringing up my stuff doesn't get a tip. I tip delivery people who do more than drop off a box at the door--like the guy who carried my TV up two flights of stairs.
Unless a service charge is tacked on to the bill, nobody is making you pay it. If that makes you uncomfortable or feeling guilty that's on you.
I would love it if we got rid of tipping and paid service workers a living wage. I'd love it if gardenias came out of my ass instead of shit but neither is happening any time soon.
I like the boxes on ebills I can check to select a tip. My ancient brain is getting bad at math in my head. Probably saves me money since otherwise I would be rounding up to a whole dollar amount.
This thread was the logical dichotomy from the homeless in America thread.
We have a pizza place that did the same, and the owner made a big deal about living wages, price transparency, etc. One day the tip option popped up on the ipad. Take a guess if the prices went down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dexter Rutecki
There should be some extra options on the tip page.
Tip Your Server?
Deduct 10% of Bill from The Owner’s Pay?
Tip The Dishwashers?
zip code man is amazeballs. That he managed to create a very successful busker gig all because he's some weird kind of savant is weird and cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted Striker
I guess NPR did a thing on him almost 20 years ago: https://www.npr.org/templates/story/...toryId=4809365 And if you google zip code man there are also youtube videos.
Person of savantness.
Secret Stash in CB does this with a great little tip the line cooks schtick that I like.Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
We had a guy who would ask your birthday, then tell you what day of the week it was. He was obviously using the doomsday algorithm, but the speed at which he could do it was amazing. And he would always remember- to the point where he'd see someone years later and blurt out "Dan! born on a Wednesday!"
Restaurant owner said to me the other day labor costs are out of control, I said " you all paying yourselves too much again?"
How has this not been posted yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-qV9wVGb38
I always tip the "anal afficionados of America."Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunion 2020
Or "save the satanists."
Actually, if I had a Restaurant, I'd register those Organisations.
I posted this in another thread but it's worth repeating.
My local dump has a tip jar now. Just some dude telling you much it costs to throw your shit away feels the need to be tipped. What the fuck?
People often say this but it doesn't seem to work out in practice. A place we used to frequent in Baltimore went to all service charge, no tip model with a full house tip share. The dishwasher to lead waiters were all making ~$25 an hour. I am super down with that. They had a steak on the menu for $68 and people freaked out. But that $68 steak included a 22% markup, it even said so on the menu. People don't bother to read.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinned
IMO, a barista serves a similar purpose as a bartender just at the beginning of the day. Fuck tipping at any big corp but at a local place I am happy to add a dollar per drink.Quote:
Originally Posted by east or bust
Was wondering when that would show up.Quote:
Originally Posted by TahoeJ
My man buzz is Mr Pink.
I am this guy
https://youtu.be/M2_SjB016e4
I have worked in the hospitality/service industry since the mid 90s. Most of my friends & roommates lived on tips.
You finally off your holiday tip?Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
Um... I think that kinda works out in the wash.. no?Quote:
Originally Posted by east or bust
Listen, I'd love to see service industry wages go up and we do away with tipping, but if someone is taking my order, making me a sandwich, and ringing me up.. They're likely in the bucket of service industry folks I'll tip.
Another reason the ENTIRE tip economy model is bullshit is that allows shit like this to be pulled on workers that have no recourse
Edit stupid Fake50forJesusnwontnattach
I don't like the whole tip economy and the expectation of tipping. But while I'm not wealthy, I can afford to throw a couple of bucks to the sandwich artist, so I do.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsy
I've been online almost that long, and every tip conversation that I've read went mostly the same, so I always just observed and never commented.
I would wager most mag's tip at least average if not above.
But I think you can acknowledge that tipping, gratuities and service charges changed dramatically post apocalypse.
Yea I tip em like everybody else, despite the fact that it's stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by grskier
As has been mentioned, tipping up front is asinine. How does sandwich guy know how much I tipped? Does the cashier radio back to the kitchen? If I leave him a fat 30% tip at the register does he make my sandwich any better? No.
Do you tip at McDonalds or other fast food places? Why not?
My tipping is 10% at local small biz order at counter, 15% order at counter and my food and drinks are delivered to my table and they clean it up, 20% full service.
There is a thai place down the street that brings a handheld device at the end of the meal with no itemization, just a total amount and they stare at you while you pay. Since there are usually at least five of us and we order a lot, it's annoying as hell. Of course, qr codes for menus too..
To me, it kind of depends on the places you're going to. If it's prepackaged food that they are just warming up, not much of a need to tip. Making good food from scratch which is most of what I go for, definitely a tip.Quote:
Originally Posted by east or bust
I did some F&B and bar-tending and loved the cash that was mine at the end of my shift. Yeah, I get it. Or driving limos where my base was 10 bucks an hour and tips. Easy to pull down 250 a day plus the hourly stipend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsy
I provided cheerful and professional service, answered their questions, humped their luggage and drove the peeps on a winding, snow covered highway that has crosses marking the sites of fatalities, there a lot of them.
That is far different from expecting 25% for making me a sandwich or a cup of coffee. These days I just make a sammy at home and keep a thermos of coffee handy.
I play the game for my expected 20% at the bar/restaurant. Sorry if I think your industry standards are asinine. That was then, it time for reality to hit now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsy
Tipping is an antiquated practice and needs revisited and revamped.
Is this an indication of living wages or entitlement?
Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums
I mostly agree with you. But I ALWAYS overtip at Street Foods, because they are (arguably) the best fucking tacos this side of Oaxaca, and I want them all to be happy, and thrive.Quote:
Originally Posted by east or bust
But they are awfully expensive anymore.