How do you carry your shit?

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Originally Posted by toast2266

Nice, thanks. Those are definitely the closest to what I'm thinking of that I've seen.




That's the basic idea, but I want an enclosed bag. Every time I've used just a strap, the tube gets muddy and gets a hole abraded into it over time. And I've found any tools in a strap like to work themselves out. So what I really want is a little roll top bag (with a compression strap to keep everything snug) that clicks into a mount on the bosses. And then I want a second mount, so I can easily swap the bag between bikes.

I would also be satisfied with a little bag that attaches to the mount via strap (that can also double as the compression strap). But it can't be velcro, because I'll be undoing the strap every time I switch it to a different bike, and velcro will crap out in a year or so.

So basically, I'm just being very picky.

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Gallon ziploc is way too big. Even a quart is too big.

Gonna need a custom sized ziploc.

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Originally Posted by toast2266

Gonna need a custom sized ziploc.

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As long as you don't mind buying 100 or so...

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Originally Posted by toast2266

That's the basic idea, but I want an enclosed bag. Every time I've used just a strap, the tube gets muddy and gets a hole abraded into it over time. And I've found any tools in a strap like to work themselves out. So what I really want is a little roll top bag (with a compression strap to keep everything snug) that clicks into a mount on the bosses. And then I want a second mount, so I can easily swap the bag between bikes.

I would also be satisfied with a little bag that attaches to the mount via strap (that can also double as the compression strap). But it can't be velcro, because I'll be undoing the strap every time I switch it to a different bike, and velcro will crap out in a year or so.

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I built this exact thing for my wife's bike, I'll get photos in the morning.
Zippered pouch/bag/with rubber strap, attached to the extra bottle cage bolt by the seat post/bottom bracket.
Holds tube, C02s, multitool ect.

Needs more anti-pack rant!

All the Pit Vipers and Fanny Packs in the world, can't not make it "just riding your bike".

Grab the Camelback, take the warm clothes as needed and pedal. Just beware, you'll really have nothing to talk about outside the Sprinter at the Kokopelli trailhead however.

I managed to find another (discontinued) Shimano Unzen 4. It has the best stay-in-place-without-bouncing attachment system of any pack I've tried.
It's also the perfect size; fits everything I need with no room to spare.
When this one dies, I'll try the USWE, which has a very similar system.

For 90% of my riding, bike carry is fine. Water bottle (both my Nomad and Levo fit a 24oz bottle) and OneUp EDC in the steerer tube. Burly tires and hardly any rocks mean I don't worry about flats. The Nomad has a frame storage pouch that I've got some lightweight stuff in but never use (bandaids & antiseptic wipes, zip ties, chapstick, mini bottle of chain lube). I am considering getting a tiny strap-on bag for the Levo for a similar setup on it.

For shorter rides where I need to carry a bit more crap (like wallet & keys), I'm liking the Dakine Hot Laps Stealth waist belt. I don't like wearing bibs, and don't like having bulky stuff in my pockets. If I need to bring a Towhee bungee for shuttling someone with the ebike, the Dakine is a bit too small and I use a Camelbak Podium waist belt instead.

For rides 3+ hours, or Sierras / Northstar, I usually add on a CamelBak or Evoc vest with a 1.5L bladder. Between that and the water bottle, that's plenty of hydration, especially with a Nuun tablet in the bottle. The vest doesn't move around at all, and has just enough room for a tool roll with a few extras like Tubolito and patch kit, a windbreaker, a small first aid kit, and maybe 1-2 bars/shot blocks. The Camelbak is a little bit more breathable, but stuff falls out of the non-zippered front pocket, so I prefer the Evoc mostly.

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Originally Posted by toast2266

Nice, thanks. Those are definitely the closest to what I'm thinking of that I've seen.




That's the basic idea, but I want an enclosed bag. Every time I've used just a strap, the tube gets muddy and gets a hole abraded into it over time. And I've found any tools in a strap like to work themselves out. So what I really want is a little roll top bag (with a compression strap to keep everything snug) that clicks into a mount on the bosses. And then I want a second mount, so I can easily swap the bag between bikes.

I would also be satisfied with a little bag that attaches to the mount via strap (that can also double as the compression strap). But it can't be velcro, because I'll be undoing the strap every time I switch it to a different bike, and velcro will crap out in a year or so.

So basically, I'm just being very picky.

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Occam Apex BOA strap + 76 Projects Piggy Pouch?

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Originally Posted by Andeh

Occam Apex BOA strap + 76 Projects Piggy Pouch?

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Yeah, that's kinda what I'm thinking. I might even have one of those straps lying around. USWE makes a nice looking little tool pouch too.

Although I'm anxiously awaiting Dee's picture of the setup he made for his wife.

DYNAFIT - ENDURO 12 trail running vest, phone in rear facing thigh pocket and a road weenie top-tube bullet pouch bag thing mounted upside down on lower down tube. (Tube and Lever)

Trail running vest has this convertible roll down ski poll holster that is perfect for small hand saw or hand pruner.

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Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs

I built this exact thing for my wife's bike, I'll get photos in the morning.
Zippered pouch/bag/with rubber strap, attached to the extra bottle cage bolt by the seat post/bottom bracket.
Holds tube, C02s, multitool ect.

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^^^ Sweet! Yeah, that's what I want. Lemme know when you decide to put them into production.

I'm going to try the Piggy & Occam too, I'll try to get some photos after I load it up with the basics.

buy a bag of coffee beans at your local food store, pour the beans out into the garbage, use the bag to put your stuff in which makes for a tough waterproof storage device

How about one of them little wolf tooth bags on their base thing?

https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/...l-top-bag-0-6l

I have a little tube roll/strap thing I stick in the frame and one of those tiny TPU tubes, that is in a small ziplock inside of a cut section of inner tube to keep it clean and undamaged. Works good but I only have co2s in there and so need to remember to stick a tire lever and chuck in a pocket.

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Absolute min I carry is a small pouch with 2xCO2, inflator, plug kit and minitool heli-strapped to my frame, plus water bottle and phone in my pocket

If it's a longer ride I usually take my 12L pack, and throw in a folding saw, quicklinks and chain tool, food, minimal first aide, an actual hand pump and more water

I was expediting for a large professional film crew ( 8 cameras and sound, spare everything ) yesturday and they use a lot of condoms to keep shit dry

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Originally Posted by panchosdad

I just carry a pack every ride. Same pack. Keeps it simple.

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I'm with this guy. I like simple. Helmet and gloves stay on/in there while I'm not riding, too.

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buy a bag of coffee beans at your local food store, pour the beans out into the garbage, use the bag to put your stuff in which makes for a tough waterproof storage device

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why not use the beans? why do you hate coffee?

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I dumped the pack years ago in lieu of this. I can typically carry enough for a 2-3 hour ride.

If you're local to SLC, the company is right off of 2100 S near the Trax line. They've been producing bags for decades and apparently they're part of the Pit Viper bros now.

https://waveproducts.com/

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I have a prototype from a similar company that I use on 90% of my rides, biggest difference is a fold over closure that allows me to carry a bigger jacket or something similar between the fold and zippered pouch. I also have a small bag on my downtube that has my multi-tool, tube, hanger, Dart and Co2.

Less than an hour ride on trails I know well in service : Water on frame, phone in zippered pocked, frame tool bag.
Greater than an hour/potential for no service/trails I do not know : above + fanny pack with inreach, snacks, extra tools, small first aid and a windbreaker.
3+ hours/high country : above + warm layer, water filter/extra water bottle, expanded first aid.

I haven't done any long desert or gravel style rides where there is no access to water but if I did I would break out my running vest and hydration bladder for sure.

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Originally Posted by rudy

why not use the beans? why do you have coffee?

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the coffee bags are often foil lined roll top and pretty bomber

you certainly could use the coffee

I was just checking to see if anyone is reading this

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Originally Posted by toast2266

Gallon ziploc is way too big. Even a quart is too big.

Gonna need a custom sized ziploc.

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I use one of these https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00979MQNY?...roduct_details waterproof and more durable than Zip-loc. The smallest one fits a Tubolito, tire lever, co2 cart, co2 inflator and a plug kit/tool.

I strap that bag to a B-Rad plate mounted on the underside of my top-tube, then I have an EDC tool in my steer tube and a Topeak pump mounted beside my water bottle. Let's me ride with nothing on my body except keys/phone/gels in pockets. I can usually do 2-2.5 hours on a 650ml bottle if I am hydrated and it's not too hot. Longer than that the fanny pack comes out.

One issue with this approach is I have jack squat for first aid on me. One of my good riding buddies came across a serious accident on the shore a few weeks back (SAR/fire dept rescue), the riders had zero first aid gear (like me) and the injured rider was shivering/cold, probably 1-2h wait for help, which is pretty quick, so my buddy gave them his space blanket and some pain med. Having basic stuff like that, alcohol wipes/bandages for bleeds etc is probably a good idea.

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One issue with this approach is I have jack squat for first aid on me. One of my good riding buddies came across a serious accident on the shore a few weeks back (SAR/fire dept rescue), the riders had zero first aid gear (like me) and the injured rider was shivering/cold, probably 1-2h wait for help, which is pretty quick, so my buddy gave them his space blanket and some pain med. Having basic stuff like that, alcohol wipes/bandages for bleeds etc is probably a good idea.

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Yep. I did a "short ride" once without a kit, and kicked up a small-ish rock on a loose section right into my shin and I bled like a stuck pig. Had to MacGyver a bloody patch to get me back to the truck.

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I carry my shit in my colon..

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I carry my shit in my colon..

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Anything can be a tool bag if you’re brave enough

Last year I used a POC column VPD vest. Super minimal and put stuff where I wanted so I never had to take it off to get what I need.

I generally use a pack, but have put a gastank bag on all our bikes. Really nice to get your phone without having to take off your pack for pics and GPS.

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I use the same pack for hiking and riding. A 20L Synchro that has a mesh back panel. Can't ride on or off road without a hydration pack .... Platypus is the only one I found that keeps water tasting like water. Keep it empty or with a couple inches of water in the freezer thru the season.
Clear water bottles for hiking.

I use 2 small packing squares - one for biking and one for hiking. Makes the change back and forth quick and easy. Plus the appropriate tube for rides.
Works great - but probably carry way more shit that most of you gents

Bedrock bags has some nice stuff. On my frame enough for keys and safety gear. Phone on bars. Realizing I need to go back to the pack also.

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I also use a deuter mesh back and mesh strap pack for both hiking and biking. The idea of a packing cube to quickly switch back and forth is genius, never thought of that.

I usually keep my phone in a pocket which is kind of annoying, but sometimes I want to be able to access it for maps ETC. For those of you who use some sort of bike mount phone holder, isn't there a decent chance of jacking up your phone?

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I also use a deuter mesh back and mesh strap pack for both hiking and biking. The idea of a packing cube to quickly switch back and forth is genius, never thought of that.

I usually keep my phone in a pocket which is kind of annoying, but sometimes I want to be able to access it for maps ETC. For those of you who use some sort of bike mount phone holder, isn't there a decent chance of jacking up your phone?

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yes.
That said mous has made a play to mtbers by sponsoring Danny Mac and Minaar.

I'm getting a new phone in a few weeks and plan on getting a mous case and mounts

Toast - another idea... I had my buddy 3d print a simple plastic bracket with hole pattern matching the bottle mount. Its stepped a tiny bit to keep a strap off the frame when threaded underneath and around whatever you want to carry on it. I use it for a light battery mount but it would also work for your needs assuming you find a little neoprene bag like DeeHubs had. I can get a pic if you want. And probably the print file.

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Anything can be a tool bag if you’re brave enough

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Prison wallet?

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Bedrock bags has some nice stuff. On my frame enough for keys and safety gear. Phone on bars. Realizing I need to go back to the pack also.

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Nice. That sinbad stash pack might be the mini tool bag I'm looking for.

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Toast - another idea... I had my buddy 3d print a simple plastic bracket with hole pattern matching the bottle mount. Its stepped a tiny bit to keep a strap off the frame when threaded underneath and around whatever you want to carry on it. I use it for a light battery mount but it would also work for your needs assuming you find a little neoprene bag like DeeHubs had. I can get a pic if you want. And probably the print file.

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That sounds great. I think I'm gonna grab one of the sinbad bags and try making a bracket out of some scrap aluminum I have lying around. But if that doesn't work, I'll hit you up for the print file. I think I know one or two people with printers that might be able to make it for me.

I have been using a Bedrock Sinbad (smaller) bag for years and it is finally coming to the end of its life (5 years?). Tyvek rolltop with a buckle. The included strap is too long when using a WT B-rad bracket but I've been dealing. I carry a tubolito, levers, spare cable, tire boots, small section of chain, derailleur hanger, WT pack pliers w/2 quiklinks, $20.

Prolly gonna pick up a similar WT bag. The .5L may sound big but the rolltop can squeeze it down for smaller loads. I used to carry a butyl tube and it fit with all my other crap. Even considering getting a 1L to carry an Israeli compression bandage but I think the 1L is wider and might get in the way of pedaling.

OneUp pump on the frame with tire plugs in the stash capsule. Small wound kit and Israeli compression bandage in the Evoc Pro Fanny Pack along with snacks, 2 bottles, inReach mini, ground-score Leatherman, zip ties, keys. Sometimes a sanguich. Wallet and phone in zippered pants pockets.

During my last WFR recert the instructor broke it down nicely between emergency and non-emergency. The next week i stopped my buddy's arterial bleeding from a compound ankle fracture using ace bandage and gauze. Stopping a bleedout seemed pretty pertinent. I promptly ordered several Israeli bandages and keep them in car, bigger first aid kit, and now bike/ski adventures.

After years of guiding/riding with a backpack, using a fanny pack feels liberating. I can get away without it but the peace of mind and water storage keeps me firmly in fanny pack every ride territory.

Also: phone. I used to have a Gearlock out-front phone mount before I broke it (don't remember how...). Would buy again and mount reversed with arm pointed at saddle. I still use the case since it has amazing impact protection. I definitely took more pictures when using the mount. Phone never came off during crashes and rough/jumps.

Here's what the Occam BOA strap looks like with the 76 Piggy Pouch:
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I don't have very much in it currently: some bandaids, zip ties, micro Leatherman, EXT 3d printed shock tool, Tubolito.
Since I took the photo, I flipped the strap so that the BOA is on the right. I was noticing that since I ride left foot forward, my knee would sometimes catch on the BOA knob (which is kinda nuts considering how far forward it is). I might flip it again so that the strap wraps around the downtube instead.

What are you guys using to hold your phone? I saw the Gearlock shout, what else?

I always stowed mine in my bag but it would be nice to have it handy for music, etc.

I keep my phone in my pocket.

Just tried out a new tool and jacket carrying system last week, works great!

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What are you guys using to hold your phone? I saw the Gearlock shout, what else?

I always stowed mine in my bag but it would be nice to have it handy for music, etc.

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Pocket. Ideal arrangement to me is a hamstring pocket like my Patagonia Landfarer shorts have, but I don't usually have problems in normal hand pockets either. I have an iPhone mini though, so if I had one of the jumbo versions I could see wanting to put it in a pack.

Somewhere in this thread someone mentioned bibs w/ a back pocket.

Anyone?


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