Cant he just use SAR as a drone?
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Cant he just use SAR as a drone?
That's what he's been doing, it seems.
'My tummy hurts, let's call a heli...'
Also guessing, but to me it sounded like he landed on basically a sheer slope that had some fluff on top, as soon as he landed, the snow disappeared and he was hurtling down the cliff. It doesn't seem what he was trying to ski would have ever worked?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dexter Rutecki
I mean, the drone idea isn't a terrible one. I know there are lots of places around that they would be very useful. Steep Peak wall, decker north face or basically anywhere with corniced ridges with some breaks. I know we backed off of Steep Peak cos we couldn't find the break we saw from the bottom and weren't comfortable roping up to find it incase we endangered others below if the cornice broke.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau
That pique however article makes me like the guy even less.
I'm not sure that people realize how much of a test piece of mountaineering skills this line is. Its a huge steep couloir, on the highest peak in the range and while the skiing is fairly basic in good conditions, it would be very challenging in shit conditions. I remember booting up it, with just front point crampons going in, ice axes doing nothing, gripped as fuck, when one of my crampons blew off my toes. Luckily i had someone behind who caught up and reattached it, but if i had of fallen, I was fucked, 500m of tomahawking down the couloir. He also mentions the corniced entrance, but there is a proper entrance, that never cornices, that provides very easy access to the couloir, and allows some turns on supported snow before entering the couloir proper to get a feeling for stability. Not having mentors, and pushing into terrain like this too fast is likely what bit him here.
Did the snowboarder not also drop in to the same slope fall guy did? The picture makes it seem like he did and then traversed over to the chute he slid down (although possible that he stayed on top and entered that chute from the very top)
I'm not going to go back to verify, but my understanding (initially and after reading--quickly--his blog post) was the boarder took an entirely different entrance, but yeah, coulda been the same. Either way, I'm pretty sure this dude is not much of a skier--not that a lack of skiing ability has kept too many people from ski touring or explains his decision making.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennymac
It has occurred to me that he, like some other people I've heard of, is probably lacking a certain sense about things that most people would consider normal. That's why his actions seem so bizarre/fascinating. Knowing how fatigue and other factors can affect decision making I was tempted to cut him some slack at first (not knowing what had actually happened I thought the comments were too harsh when I first saw this thread), but the guy really just seems off in certain ways that make him a menace in the backcountry.
edit: I did go back and look at the photo again which clearly says they both dropped in off the ridge, but then it seems weird he would've had his skis off again, so I'm not sure. Someone else can read his post and let us know about the snowboarder traverse.
There's a definite over-estimation of ability, over confidence in knowledge, and a lack of care for risk and consequences to himself and everyone else. He's called SAR multiple times in under a year. This is the exact kind of person that ruins things for the rest of us. This is how areas get closed to access and how back country travelers get a bad rep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dexter Rutecki
100% agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by dmcd
Based on the pic, I’m fairly certain the snowboarder went down the ridge and entered the other chute from the top. Otherwise , if he did enter and the decided on traversing skiers left in the chute his friend fell on he’s even more insane than the OP. Definitely both have the make up of a irresponsible menaces to the backcountry
Yeah you’re likely right now that I zoom in on the photo - you’d have to be crazy and lucky to drop in and traverse skiers left to access that chute. Instead he’s just crazy (to go down that chute rather than go around)
I love his paragraphs upon paragraphs of nonchalant descriptions before he broke his leg, like of where he parked, going up in the dark and seeing the lights of Whsitler, staying at the hut, etc. it's like - skip to the headline bud. No one cares the hut door was dug out for you before you woke up and FELL OFF A 200'+ CLIFF
I think he has a lot of time to kill as he waits for his tibia and pelvis and ribs etc to heal. But yeah - the nonchalance is telling.
Just to lighten up the mood here's some fun times from Parks Mountain Safety
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And a classic Aprils Fools
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I like how Dexter says he doesn’t sound like a beginner. Guy uses skin savers and can’t figure out how to fold his skins in the wind. Uses Fatmap for navigation. A season and a half doesn’t disqualify him as a beginner. Guy is a kook
Despite the April fools joke above Whistler SAR should be monitoring south coast touring and calling in extra staff when this guy starts posting for adventure partners again
In one of his posts he was talking about his “peak goals” as in he wants x peaks a year. Is this a common thing now? What about just going out and doing what the conditions will allow and counting it a blessing?
Im pretty sure he did traverse over all that exposure. From the video, you can see that when he slides into the couloir, there is a big spine to his right, and it definitely appears he is entering from the traverse. The photo posted above says traversed above huge exposure, and is from the SAR report i believe.
Where can the video be found?
There are websites, social media groups, forums etc dedicated to this now. It's quite common.Quote:
Originally Posted by LHutz Esq
Ran into one of these types on Hood a few years back. He was a 16 year old kid from BC that fell from the Pearly gates and slid all the way from there into Devils kitchen. Ended up with a broken femur. Hadn't told his parents he was in the US, also kept telling us to not let them take him to a hospital.
Similar to this guy, he was a "peakbagger" who had "climbed" over 100 "mountains". Went and checked his instagram after the fact and what that entailed was a shit ton of day hikes to random bumps near Vancouver. Some people don't have a great grasp on relative levels of complexity when it comes to the mountains.
Dex is always good for a laugh.Quote:
Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn
Local SAR should have someone assigned to nail Tareef's front door shut early every morning.
I wonder if he now counts Wedge as baggedQuote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau
He went up. He went down. I'm guessing he considers it bagged. He's lucky he wasn't bagged.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennymac
I think it comes over from hikers/scramblers in the summer without realizing how much of a different beast winter is.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau
That and instagrammers making shit look way easier than it is and never posting the fuck ups or scary situations
https://streamable.com/ogicaxQuote:
Originally Posted by mcski
Agreed on this point, it is truly fascinating to try to follow the thought process of people like this. They just don't seem to have any common sense about risk (despite at least some education on snow safety) or their complete lack of experience. With a 16 year old it's one thing, but late 20's (guessing) it's just crazy. The peak bagging numbers game is also weird, but understandable. Just odd when people let that override their risk assessment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dexter Rutecki
Holy shit. They are goddamn fortunate that both of them didn't get seriously injured!!Quote:
Originally Posted by gramboh
Thanks for that link. I’m now confident in proclaiming those two idiots soul mates that deserve each other. What a fucking kook. He doubled down on an already stupid move. I get the desire to get down to the fallen asap but how that didn’t end w two frozen carcasses is beyond my comprehension
The worrying thing is that it all feels like those two are the kind of people that won't realize how lucky they got to get through that with as light of consequences as they did and the lessons won't be learned.
That's one hell of a chute groom.Quote:
Originally Posted by gramboh
Right? You know it's steep when even the GoPro makes it looks steep. Dude never managed to slow down while digging his heels in and ass dragging. It's a miracle the only victim was his ice axe, that choke didn't look particularly easy to navigate while laying on your back...Quote:
Originally Posted by John_B
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukGm72ZLZvYfS/giphy.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by gramboh
^^^ That was my exact reaction as well. Jeebus that dude was lucky.
There’s an overlap here with antiscience thinking - anecdotal stories leading to wide reaching conclusions. I did fine therefore I’m right.Quote:
Originally Posted by dmcd
I too find it fascinating
Surely the snowboarder had 0 fucking idea whether his line could have possibly went at all. And since they didnt bother with an anchor at the top, something tells me he wasnt about to rap out of there. Just pure dumb luck they both survived...
Sooo.....kinda looks like these two nabbed first descents on The Wedge?
Falling leaf technique level 100
count it!Quote:
Originally Posted by muted reborn
Soon this guy will have a youtube series about the fifty times he’s been helicoptered off a sea to sky mountain.
Dropping! [emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by gramboh