Setting and sticking to a conservative plan.

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Originally Posted by teamdirt

Pretty active out there in the Rockies and Purcell’s now that the sun is out. Slides to ground starting to show on all aspects and lots of slides are going full path….

We set the conservative plan to stick to exploration goals over decent related goals this season, not worth the Russian roulette of the deep basal facets that are not disappearing…A good freeze will allow a short window but stay focused out there! Ski for another season!

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Timely update C. Shar and I committed to no steep alpine stuff this year early in the season .... period. Live to ski another season

“Ski for another season” - I like that thanks imma use that

I thot we would see more deaths in the BC BC but after that whole heli ski party got hit its been pretty quiet thankfuly

such is nit the case down south it would appear

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Originally Posted by XXX-er

I thot we would see more deaths in the BC BC but after that whole heli ski party got hit its been pretty quiet thankfuly

such is nit the case down south it would appear

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It’s still out there and more spicy than ever hopefully less users testing it…

The real test of the snowpack and humans compliance is the coming days, weeks and months ahead as the real impact of the punch from the sun weights these basal layers. So far from what I’m seeing is everything is going to ground at all elevations and aspects as it’s stressed which means zero confidence. Yes things may tighten up with a good melt and freeze but the window could be short and one needs to be very diligent and compliant to not be caught with your pants down. Hopefully people just give up on the season and move towards summer activities. Next year will be a fresh start.

Not only do you need to be assessing your ski lines, but you need to put that same effort into your approach and into your access points. Slides this season have the potential to catch anyone of us off guard and you need to be aware of all scenarios including slides going beyond normal runouts in terms of length and width and those slides could be coming from thousands of feet above you creating historical events for there history. Be careful out there everyone!

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Originally Posted by XXX-er

I thot we would see more deaths in the BC BC but after that whole heli ski party got hit its been pretty quiet thankfuly

such is nit the case down south it would appear

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If u have a chance look at my post on that topic in the slide zone…

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Originally Posted by teamdirt

It’s still out there and more spicy than ever hopefully less users testing it…

The real test of the snowpack and humans compliance is the coming days, weeks and months ahead as the real impact of the punch from the sun weights these basal layers. So far from what I’m seeing is everything is going to ground at all elevations and aspects as it’s stressed which means zero confidence. Yes things may tighten up with a good melt and freeze but the window could be short and one needs to be very diligent and compliant to not be caught with your pants down. Hopefully people just give up on the season and move towards summer activities. Next year will be a fresh start.

Not only do you need to be assessing your ski lines, but you need to put that same effort into your approach and into your access points. Slides this season have the potential to catch anyone of us off guard and you need to be aware of all scenarios including slides going beyond normal runouts in terms of length and width and those slides could be coming from thousands of feet above you creating historical events for there history. Be careful out there everyone!

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Haven’t seen things fall apart to the same extent around here, though the facets at ground are still lurking, and could surprise the unaware or unlucky. Not an easy one to manage.

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Originally Posted by teamdirt

If u have a chance look at my post on that topic in the slide zone…

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If that was the post where they didnt seem all that together well they were guided heli skiers and the reason they were there is they had the $$$$$$

the question in my mind is should they have been there in the 1st place ?

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Originally Posted by Wapow

Because if you can't skin it you sure as shit shouldn't be skiing it.

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Maybe but that skin track would put you and your partner at risk for a whole lot longer of time.

Seems pretty relevant:

"While they were traveling that day the conditions were a little different than they expected. The quality of the snow on the north-facing slopes they planned to descend did not look as good and the visibility was better than they expected. During the day their discussions gradually morphed and their plan changed from a reconnaissance objective to a “I think we can summit” goal. Despite expressing reservations about continuing upwards, the group members mutually convinced each other to proceed given that they encountered no signs of instability and the snow looked very appealing. Making on-the-fly decisions to enter more consequential terrain in the field is a factor in many avalanche accidents. Groups tend to have better outcomes when they stick to the objectives they selected during the planning process - separate from the emotional pulls that good weather and fresh snow can induce."

https://classic.avalanche.state.co.u...=837&accfm=inv

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Originally Posted by goldenboy

Seems pretty relevant:

"While they were traveling that day the conditions were a little different than they expected. The quality of the snow on the north-facing slopes they planned to descend did not look as good and the visibility was better than they expected. During the day their discussions gradually morphed and their plan changed from a reconnaissance objective to a “I think we can summit” goal. Despite expressing reservations about continuing upwards, the group members mutually convinced each other to proceed given that they encountered no signs of instability and the snow looked very appealing. Making on-the-fly decisions to enter more consequential terrain in the field is a factor in many avalanche accidents. Groups tend to have better outcomes when they stick to the objectives they selected during the planning process - separate from the emotional pulls that good weather and fresh snow can induce."

https://classic.avalanche.state.co.u...=837&accfm=inv

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The report also mentions that there were numerous large slides in the area that recently went. It sounds like there were definitely some red flags a flying.

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Originally Posted by Core Shot

Somewhat. At times you might skin across a sketch area. One at a time. Etc.

No way they laid that track one at a time. It was a skin party.

Yeah. The ridge is the safe route. That bowl needs to be bulletproof to lay that skin track. And it was. On that day.

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We are seeing a lot of back country newbs here that are stacking switch backs when there are obvious, safer options available.

And I'll echo the spacing even when there isn't much concern. It's a best, safest possible policy imo. In the past I've definitely been cocky and over confident and been less than safe, I regret that now and prefer to stick to the safest plans because shit, we are humans and we all fuck up!

What are your thoughts on skiing w family?


For example on a cat or heli skiing day would you want to split up parent and child into separate groups to avoid the unimaginable tragedy of losing a spouse and a child in the same slide or accident?

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Originally Posted by Hopeless Sinner

What are your thoughts on skiing w family?


For example on a cat or heli skiing day would you want to split up parent and child into separate groups to avoid the unimaginable tragedy of losing a spouse and a child in the same slide or accident?

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I probably wouldn’t take my spouse or child if I thought the slide danger was that high. I’m pretty conservative and I would question the guides if I had concerns


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