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Thanks for all the option and advice. It seems like availability is actually OK. I need to wait a couple weeks before I pull the trigger. Hopefully the good options still exist.
This is what I am liking this morning
https://www.canyon.com/en-us/mountai...ahmengroesse=L
That's a solid option. A little more descending oriented than some of the other bikes being discussed earlier in the thread. Which isn't a bad thing - it just depends on what you're after. Personally, I'd rather ride that bike in moab / fruita / grand junction than some of the shorter travel bikes like a Ripley or Trance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles
Yeah, I'm only gonna have one bike. The shorter travel may be nicer back home as the Headwaters Trails Alliance seems to make trails you can ride on a Unicyle. The Neuron may be the way I go. It will just depend on what colors are available and which one of you I feel like listening to when the time comes. If I go up to 160mm, do I have to wear knee pads?
One note - a lot of people early last season said they had issues with NX, not sure if that's still the case. I was advised on SLX or GX Eagle as the component "floor"Quote:
Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles
Good call. I'd also look at the Izzo; little less travel but a bit more spec for the money. Unfortunately the Core 3 build doesn't have a shipping ETA currently, but is a lot of bike for $4299Quote:
Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles
Core 2 is available: https://us.yt-industries.com/product...r=101429#tech3
I put it in the other thread, but if you are looking at the Canyon, this seems like a better deal with a slight weight penalty https://www.commencalusa.com/meta-tr...22-c2x35182057. In stock, and if you pick it up in Golden no shipping fees. Or if you want more travel, the Meta has a better spec at a lower price https://www.commencalusa.com/meta-tr...22-c2x35182057. That might be more bike than you need most of the time, but it will handle anything, and I haven't seen anything that compares pricewise. The Canyon your looking at is right in between these two.
That Meta does look rad and would prefer to not just order and internet bike if given the choice. At somepoint I'll have to decide if I'm willing to wait for a "you should get your bike on this date" senario. For better or worse, not is when my schedule is a bit slack and my wife wants to get out of the cold so I sorta want my bike now god damn it!
if you are new back into the mtnbike game consider maybe it would be smarter to buy a bike from the LBS which has a warranty and will help you incase shit goes sideways ?
Here, just get a ripmo, they're in stock https://www.jensonusa.com/Ibis-Ripmo-AF-SLX-Bike-2022
Schuss is right, I should. I gotta wait about a week to make sure my cheese shuffles around probably. Hopefully I can still find one...I like red.
Thanks, just ordered an XL in white. Been lurking a bit here and decided to pounce. Thanks for the thread and discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by schuss
FKNA.
I just went through a pretty similar search. I was looking for an aggressive trail bike in the $4k range with an alloy frame. The Privateer 141 caught my eye, they're the DTC sister brand of Hunt Wheels. GX build with a Pike Ultimate and Float X performance elite clocked in at $4200.
https://us.privateerbikes.com/collec...37597247013014
NiceQuote:
Originally Posted by Norseman
If they ever come back in stock...
YT Jeffsy Core 2 29er.
you'll appreciate the smoother rolling of a 29er more than the "jibby-ness" of a 27.5
NX groupset is fine.
150mm travel, 130 for riding and 20 for the roller that was a little steeper than your anticipiated.
also, they're $3000.
Only downside is having to bring a bike that can only be purchased online into to a bike shop to have them assemble it for you.
Foggy, I reckon you want to be clear on what you want to ride and then figure out what the right bike for that terrain is.
These 150/160 rear travel bikes on page 3 (spectral/Jeffsy etc) are very different than the 130ish bikes you were talking about on page 1.
YMMV but unless I was hitting the gnar alot I wouldn’t want to pedal a big bike all the time - I’d rather be a little underbiked occaisionally and enjoy the majority of my rides a lot more on a lighter more efficient shorter travel bike. The reviewers who say a 160 bike pedals well are like the guys who say a Cochise boot tours well :)
Seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by tBatt
A YT arrives 99% assembled. If putting on a handlebar, attaching a pre-adjusted derailleur and installing the wheels with the included tools is beyond your mechanical aptitude then yeah direct to consumer is not for you - hate to think what you do about trailside repair if you need a bike shop to do that.
This is TGR. Everybody skis 118-waist skis that are 190+ long. Same holds for bikes. Longer travel is just more fun in the good stuffQuote:
Originally Posted by dcpnz
Ripmos are pretty sweet. A buddy has one. I picked up a used Evil Following MB a few years ago for less than $4K (XO). So - 140/150 vs 120/130.
He had advantage on drops and rocky parts; I felt like I had advantage climbing, buffed ST, jumps, and berms. Following’s travel feels bigger than 120.
All these choices depends where and how you ride.
That's a good reminder. I recon the shorter travel side of things is what would be best. I wouldn't consider the trails around Winter Park to be gnarly but what do I know? I also think of the Koko Loops, 18rd, and most of the lunch loops to be pretty chill. Even if it is pretty technical, I'll have more of a smooth old guy steeze than a sender.Quote:
Foggy, I reckon you want to be clear on what you want to ride and then figure out what the right bike for that terrain is
I mean a kid on the chair lift the other day asked me how long I'd been skiing, I said "I just go here" he said, "no, in your life!". So yeah, thats me.
Meh. A spectral or a jeffsy is like a Zero G, which actually does tour pretty well. A Cochise is like a Capra - it can go up, but it's all about the down, and no one here is recommending that.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcpnz
The 120-130 mm travel bikes are more like the ~1000g touring boots. Some of them descend pretty damn good, but they're built with a lot of climbing in mind, and they'll never descend quite as well as their bigger counterparts. The reviewers who say those bikes descend just as well as the bigger bikes are the guys who say a 95mm ski is just as good on a pow day.
.... who also say the bigger bikes climb as well as the shorter travel bikes. It's all relative these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
Indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by smmokan
At the end of the day, it's a pretty safe assumption that less travel = better climbing, and more travel = better descending. Any exceptions to that rule are pretty minor. It's all a trade off.
Thats a lotta bike for 4200.
I'd do the Ripmo AF SLX. Solid build, climbs very well, geometry that's enough to be very confident without excessively long/slack, and enough suspension that you can ride anything but not so much that it will feel super wallow-y on mellower trails.
I seem to recall that reviews of the Privateers indicates that they have a huge amount of anti-squat and progression, making them very efficient (albeit very heavy), but that makes them a bit harsh over repeated hits. But their build kits do look solid too for the money.
Agreed. Good bang for the buck, and a nice middle ground kind of bike.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andeh
Had there been availability when I picked up my trance x, I probably would have went this way. My buddy loves his.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andeh
Add me to the agree list. Love my Ripmo. 4 of us in my extended group are on ripmos, one on the AF. The AF rider is probably the most aggressive rider, he got his with a coil shock and has been shredding hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
I'm reading this thread with interest because I hope to buy a bike in the next 6-9 months, and I've decided that the 120-130 type is where I land. I also ski a 98 underfoot ski as my everything, including powder. And it slays, for me and how I ski. I had a significantly fatter ski, but every time I took it out I wished I had the other boards. It floated better, sure, but was heavier, harder to turn, and just not as fun for me. I finally sold it.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
That's not to say that there isn't a bigger ski that I would like more in powder. It's just to say that there's more to making a ski great in powder for a particular individual than width under foot. I imagine the same is true when talking about travel on a bike.
The Ripmo seems like an awesome bike (I have a buddy that loves his), but it's probably not the right one for Foggy or Danno and the trails they usually ride. The Ripley seems like it would be much better suited. Appears Jenson has aluminum Ripleys in stock, though.
Sure - there are the guys that are perfectly happy skiing a 95mm ski in every condition. There are also the guys that ski a 118mm ski year round. It's all just personal preference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
The point is more that the 95mm ski isn't built with powder as the primary objective, and the 118mm ski isn't built with trenching groomers as the primary objective. Which is the same as comparing bikes; most modern 120-130mm bikes are plenty fun on descents, but absolutely laying waste to a rough descent isn't their primary objective. And plenty of 170mm bikes climb just fine, but they're built with a focus on going really fast down really rough stuff, and climbing is a secondary consideration. Lots of people will prefer one or the other for various personal reasons, but that doesn't change the objective fact of the design intentions of the bike or ski.
kinda/ sorta ^^ IMEQuote:
Originally Posted by Danno
the suspension on the Yeti 5.5 was so good I wasnt really using it to the nth degree where I ride so had often wondered if I could have gone with less bike/ carry less weight up cuz everything locally is up ?
then I blew the ACL, while the ACL free riding experiance hurt a bit I could actulay still ride OK while I waited for a free ACL from the canuckian HC system but then post op the knee/ leg just wasn' t really strong enough so I thot about giving up
instead I some how ended up with a Bullit which compared to the 5.5 is longer has more suspension/ more brakes/ more battery/ more engine ... more more, a lot more fun eh !
I managed to get out on the lotus 120 last week and that ski still does it for me
I don't think the skis: bike travel analogy really works that well.
I'm watching this thread too for ideas, as Mrs C needs an update to her original Ripley. The Ripley AF seems to me to be an excellent choice for her, but she's picky as hell (without being able to define what she likes on a bike or why) and I'm not going to drop $$$$ just to find out. So I need to find a medium for her to demo somewhere somehow.
Can’t argue with that. Got one friend on a Ripley and it does climb a bit better. It doesn’t seem like he gives up much on a technical descent either.Quote:
Originally Posted by adrenalated
I got a Ripmo AF with the coil and Spank wheels upgrades, from my LBS in June of 20. I really liked the bike, but my rear hub exploded in September. It took Pat over a month to get a new rear wheel from Spank.
Jenson’s selling those bikes at list price. I’d look for a LBS that has them in stock.
Bike shops are selling Ibis at list also. Wife just bought a Hakka last week. No discount. Margins on bikes are gone.
Yes, but at least they will service your bike and any claims.
Trying to deal with Jensen, your doing it all yourself.
Am I the only codger appalled that $4k is a mid-spec bike these days?
(for that matter…that number is for stock w/out pedals or upgrades or accessories)
(if you can find one in your size & don’t have to wait months to see if it fits properly…)
Ibis will hopefully get their demo tour going again this summer. They usually are in Tahoe for a couple of days and truckee for a couple more ea summer if she can wait that long. Olympic in Tahoe usually has demos too but i think they only had ripmos last year. You could call and ask if they know what will be in their fleet this yearQuote:
Originally Posted by El Chupacabra
Def something to be said for buying a new bike at a LBS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shredhead
some brands are all put together at the factory and some not so much, my Yeti ferinstance came in a box with a bunch of other little boxes so they had to pay their yeti guy to put it togetehr, along with the low margin the LBS didnt make much money on the yeti but it was a cool bike
if something goes wrong the LBS should be able to help you out maybe its a simple bleed or adjustment maybe an issue with a component, LBS know and talk to the reps maybe you need a loaner part, back when there were actualy bikes in stock if you seen a missing part on a bike in the showroom it was more than likely taken off to go on a customer's bike and the replacement was on the way let your imagination run wild what could go wrong ?
if yer a guy with a garage full of tools, already own a bunch of bikes and spare parts yer wife doesnt know about sure a mail order bike will more than likely work out no problem but if you don't even know what you don't know maybe paying list for a nice boring Giant would be a better idea for the NEW biker ?